cartoon_soldier
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planar1280 said:
They also make money unlike Sony
Google should buy Sony
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They also make money unlike Sony
FlyingTeacup
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Technosteve said:
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suuuure, darling.
AgentChris
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I think something like this might happen if Kaz Hirai doesn't fix Sony.xbhaskarx said:
FlyingTeacup
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pretty much all japanese large tech companies are in the deep reds.
panasonic posted worse results than sony.
panasonic posted worse results than sony.
cartoon_soldier
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AgentChris said:
Would be an awesome E3 2012 announcement. lol.
MeBecomingI
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Let us wait until Howard Stringer is out and Kaz Hirai is in before we start talking about purchases.. then we can start seeing Sony turn the ship around. Kaz has proven he is capable of doing it and I'm sure he can manage turning the entire company around.
However, Google and Sony should partner more.
However, Google and Sony should partner more.
acheron_xl
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AgentChris said:
I think Samsung would buy Sony before someone like Microsoft or Google would.
iamshadowlark
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The only one I would consider buying is SCE. But then that would be implying it is as easy as the op is making it out to be.
HammerOfThor
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Google should buy Square Enix instead.
That way they can keep all their games in beta forever until they're actually good.
That way they can keep all their games in beta forever until they're actually good.
Jamesfrom818
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Google should buy Verizon
FlyingTeacup
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MeBecomingI said:
it doesn't matter if it's stringer or kaz. I dont think anyone can get stubborn old japanese executives to change their mindsets.
their economy has been in limbo for decades for their utter refusal to admit that their old way of managing the economy has failed.
zomgbbqftw
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Opiate said:
I think that's part of the reason they would make a good buy for Google, there is a lot, lot of fat to trim. At its core, Sony is a very valuable and profitable company, it has just been so poorly run for over 10 years and the corporate culture is too timid. Google could turn all of that around and use Sony's consumer products division to push their software. Turn the Vaio into a premium ChromeOS division, leverage the content divisions to get the top level stuff onto media streaming, leverage phones, tablets and DAPs to make halo/benchmark devices. Biggest of all PlayStation and SCE could become a formidable player, the likes of what we saw with PS2.
Sony, right now, is much less than the sum of all its parts and I think a company like Google could turn that around. The Sony management clearly haven't despite trying for a long, long time. If Sony turned themselves into an actual monolith and worked as a single company with just one central goal they could be bigger than any other competitor, it just won't happen with timid Japanese corporate culture.
Acquiring Sony at this point would be like ingesting a hefty dose of poison. They're so unprofitable and their structure is so labyrinthine that I find it unrealistic that even a good company could manage it properly. If Sony is ever sold off it would be for parts and to many different corporations. I don't see how anyone could want it as-is.
FlyingTeacup said:
I think we're superimposing narratives whatever way we see fit. We're not inside the company. I can see several possible explanations:
1) Stringer is the problem.
2) Stringer is not the problem: the executives that make up the board are the problem. In other words, systemic executive mismanagement. This is basically your suggestion.
3) The entire corporate philosophy is out of touch with the modern world. Sony is a company that has consistently specialized in superior A/V performance, and we're now in a world where very few people care about better image quality on their TVs, better graphics in their games, better sound quality in their music. Most of these industries are now driven by price, ease of use, and interface, areas where Sony is less strong.
4) Some combination of all the above.
5) Something else I'm not even thinking of.
I don't know which it is, but I can certainly imagine it is possible that a better CEO could come in and fix things. It's also entirely possible that Stringer is a very good exec, and that his competency is restrained by a stubborn, outdated company.
BigJonsson
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I'd buy a Googlestation if it had Googley eyes
FlyingTeacup
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Opiate said:
I certainly would not rule the possibilities that you mentioned. However, it's been demonstrated again and again that Japan is just not flexible at all. Latest example is the olympus scandal.
Lagspike_exe
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Hiring Stringer was a baffling decision. He doesn't really know anything about how a CE corp should be ran.
There are other options that exist, but as of right now the deal hasn't been finished. Trust me when I say that there won't be 19,000 unemployed people at the end of it though. That would be some shitty press.zomgbbqftw said:
If they acquired Sony they would acquire all of the workers too, so what you said wouldn't even make sense.planar1280 said:
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RubxQub said:
First post always nails it.
cartoon_soldier
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xbhaskarx said:
Tattoo...lol
Actually, best thing would be to have Balmer come and tap Hirai from behind at end of PS3 conference. haha
It's never going to happen but would be worth it just for the GAF reactions
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FlyingTeacup said:
True. However, from what I've seen he seems to be able to get some of the stubborn executives to move aside. Albeit infrequently, but it has been done. Kaz just really needs to come into the position with a strong, laid out plan with a solid foundation for growth and movement, with figures to back it up and I think Kaz could move some of the executives to start making some necessary decisions.
Kaz is a smart guy and from what I've seen, he understands where technology is going and how Sony can move there before anyone else. Convincing people is the only job that has to be done but unfortunately Stringer has been too slow in giving way to this change and the company is trailing behind everyone, fast.
Stumpokapow
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When I did my Sociology degree not so long ago, The Story of the Sony Walkman was used in cultural sociology to describe how a perfect product could take the world by storm and change western culture in a revolutionary way.
I don't see any reality where the same course wouldn't use The Perfect Thing (which is about the iPod) today.
I feel like this reflects Sony's general place in the pecking order.
I don't see any reality where the same course wouldn't use The Perfect Thing (which is about the iPod) today.
I feel like this reflects Sony's general place in the pecking order.
AgentChris
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I really think Kaz Hirai is going to fix Sony. For one he's Japanese 
I still don't know how Stringer become CEO of Sony.
I still don't know how Stringer become CEO of Sony.
While on paper, this would seem like a match (Google lacks a hardware division, and Sony's terribly mismanaged, but still has enormous brand value), I don't think Google is interested at all in a salvage project. Moreover, Motorola notwithstanding (which was bought for their patent portfolio), I don't think Google wants to further strain their relations with all the other tech companies that are cooperating with them such as Samsung, LG, etc. by purchasing/absorbing yet another competitor of theirs (and one significantly more prominent than Motorola).
I wouldn't be surprised if Google is setting their sights on a telecommunications company like Sprint or T-Mobile. They'd have Samsung, HTC, Sony, etc. in their pockets. Google would not only be making their software/OS, but be distributing their phones. Not to mention that Google has been trying to establish a fiber-optic network.
From the other perspective, I don't see Sony, a very prideful Japanese company, selling to an American corporate giant.
I wouldn't be surprised if Google is setting their sights on a telecommunications company like Sprint or T-Mobile. They'd have Samsung, HTC, Sony, etc. in their pockets. Google would not only be making their software/OS, but be distributing their phones. Not to mention that Google has been trying to establish a fiber-optic network.
From the other perspective, I don't see Sony, a very prideful Japanese company, selling to an American corporate giant.
Sony is utterly fucked. If Kaz doesn't change their course they're in deep shit and pretty much out of options. Their best bet is Microsoft messing up the Xbox by stretching their resources too thin(not likely) or Nintendo going mental in a bad way so PlayStation can thrive in Europe and Japan. Electronics against Samsung is a lost cause, the phone and tablet markets are getting saturated already. Sony needs to come up with the next big thing if they want to return to their former state otherwise they'll just continue to go downhill. I also don't think they should even attempt to stop the bleeding. Stringer focused on that and it backfired what Sony needs now is growth otherwise they'll continue to bleed money no matter what they cut(untill there's nothing left to cut).
Sony really just needs to get off it's high horse and realize they are very similar to other electronic companies. Maybe they could create a high end brand and a low end one.
Otherwise, regardless of it's value, it is an unwieldy beast with too much going on and the appearance of lacking cohesiveness.
I can't imagine a software company actually wanting to delve to deep into the risky waters of physical inventory. I think the one best suited to purchase Sone would be another conglomerate.
Otherwise, regardless of it's value, it is an unwieldy beast with too much going on and the appearance of lacking cohesiveness.
I can't imagine a software company actually wanting to delve to deep into the risky waters of physical inventory. I think the one best suited to purchase Sone would be another conglomerate.
elrechazado
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post made this lame thread worthwhile.HammerOfThor said:
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
JGS said:
they own the Aiwa brand...afaik that is their low end one.
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