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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jul/16/zika-virus-funding-congress-politics-cdc

Halfway through a hearing on Capitol Hill, as public health officials warned of dire consequences should Congress fail to pass funding to help combat the Zika virus, Tim Kaine uttered the words everyone in the room was probably thinking.

“This is why people hate Congress,” said the senator from Virginia, who is thought to be a potential vice-presidential pick for Hillary Clinton. “This is why people hate Washington.”

On Thursday, a Republican-sponsored bill that would have allocated $1.1bn in Zika funding fell short of the 60 votes needed to advance in the Senate, amid objections from Democrats, who decried the inclusion of several contentious riders.

Just two months previously, the Senate had overwhelmingly approved a bipartisan compromise that appropriated $1.1bn without any significant caveats. Barack Obama was prepared to sign it, despite having requested $1.8bn in February.

House Republicans, however, attached provisions to the bill that imposed restrictions on abortion, overturned clean water regulations, defunded parts of the president’s healthcare law, and sought to undo a ban on flying the Confederate flag at federal cemeteries.

“The Republicans have said no, no, no and no,” she told the Guardian. “It’s really frustrating. They’re playing politics with women’s health.”

Republican leaders, however, said the House-passed bill could not be amended, since it was passed under a procedure known as a conference report.

“I’d love it if the Senate just passed bills and they became law, but it doesn’t work that way,” the Texas senator John Cornyn, the Senate Republican whip, told the Guardian. “The House gets a vote too.”

Mitch McConnell, the Senate majority leader, blasted Democrats for blocking the Senate bill.

“It’s time for our friends to start worrying less about pleasing outside political groups and start worrying more about actually helping the Americans who are counting on us,” he said.

 

[Media]

I wish like hell we could pass a law that states nothing can be attached to a bill that has nothing to do with the orginal bill.

 

[Krejlooc]

“This is why people hate Congress,” said the senator from Virginia, who is thought to be a potential vice-presidential pick for Hillary Clinton. “This is why people hate Washington.”

More like this is why people hate republicans

 

[watershed]

Sad to see republicans have their priorities clear when it comes to a potential public health crisis.

 

[excelsiorlef]

Mitch McConnell, the Senate majority leader, blasted Democrats for blocking the Senate bill.

“It’s time for our friends to start worrying less about pleasing outside political groups and start worrying more about actually helping the Americans who are counting on us,” he said.

Oh Fuck you McConnell.

 

[Slayven]

House Republicans, however, attached provisions to the bill that imposed restrictions on abortion, overturned clean water regulations, defunded parts of the president’s healthcare law, and sought to undo a ban on flying the Confederate flag at federal cemeteries.

This point they are being evil for the shits and giggle.

But both sides am I right?

 

[Bowdz]

The Zika issue for Republicans is simply mind boggling to me. There is no upside to it, but a ton of potential downside occurring (possibly during the general election). If they pass the paltry sum of money, not only are they doing the right thing, not only do they look responsible, but they don't have to worry about any political blowback. Instead, they are delaying funding an essential public health initiative when the President and the Democrats have been sounding the alarm on this since January. If Zika hits as hard as the CDC has warned, then it will only be the GOP to blame (despite this bullshit peddling of a bill with poison pills).

I honestly don't understand why they are doing this. It doesn't make any sense logically, morally, or politically.

 

[A Link to the Past]

Oh Mitch, you sure are a scumbag. Honestly, I can only hope to goodness that people are able to see through this transparent catch-22 attempt.

 

[rSpooky]

This is why we need LINE ITEM VETO!!

Grrr

 

[smokeandmirrors]

FUCK REPUBLICANS

 

[kirblar]

Sad to see republicans have their priorities clear when it comes to a potential public health crisis.

I really hope they don't see it as a genophage.

 

[Saucycarpdog]

For a second I had a mental thought of a bunch of Confederate flag waving motorcycle riders driving through Congress.

But anyway, fuck the Republicans.

 

[Krejlooc]

The Zika issue for Republicans is simply mind boggling to me. There is no upside to it, but a ton of potential downside occurring (possibly during the general election). If they pass the paltry sum of money, not only are they doing the right thing, not only do they look responsible, but they don't have to worry about any political blowback. Instead, they are delaying funding an essential public health initiative when the President and the Democrats have been sounding the alarm on this since January. If Zika hits as hard as the CDC has warned, then it will only be the GOP to blame (despite this bullshit peddling of a bill with poison pills).

I honestly don't understand why they are doing this. It doesn't make any sense logically, morally, or politically.

You know exactly how they will spin it. "We co-authored the bill, it's the democrats who rejected it"

They can do this because the average person has no idea what a rider is.

 

[KDR_11k]

The Zika issue for Republicans is simply mind boggling to me. There is no upside to it, but a ton of potential downside occurring (possibly during the general election). If they pass the paltry sum of money, not only are they doing the right thing, not only do they look responsible, but they don't have to worry about any political blowback. Instead, they are delaying funding an essential public health initiative when the President and the Democrats have been sounding the alarm on this since January. If Zika hits as hard as the CDC has warned, then it will only be the GOP to blame (despite this bullshit peddling of a bill with poison pills).

I honestly don't understand why they are doing this. It doesn't make any sense logically, morally, or politically.

The GOP is at a point where it only cares about its own political goals, the country be damned.

 

[Azure Dream]

I wish like hell we could pass a law that states nothing can be attached to a bill that has nothing to do with the orginal bill.

I'm sure they can find some tenuous bullshit links, but really. How is this part of the process? How is this ok?

"I know you want to help with the Zika virus, that's why we need to fly the Confederate flag."

 

[Username1198]

So tired of these evil fucks.

 

[Bowdz]

You know exactly how they will spin it. "We co-authored the bill, it's the democrats who rejected it"

They can do this because the average person has no idea what a rider is.

I know how they'll spin it, it is just too transparent for even the average, casual, political independent to not see through. If it was one rider (any of those), yeah, they could get away with it, but they needed to attach everything on their laundry list of dream items. They've been more politically crafty before, but they blew their load all on this bill.

 

[exmachina64]

The Zika issue for Republicans is simply mind boggling to me. There is no upside to it, but a ton of potential downside occurring (possibly during the general election). If they pass the paltry sum of money, not only are they doing the right thing, not only do they look responsible, but they don't have to worry about any political blowback. Instead, they are delaying funding an essential public health initiative when the President and the Democrats have been sounding the alarm on this since January. If Zika hits as hard as the CDC has warned, then it will only be the GOP to blame (despite this bullshit peddling of a bill with poison pills).

I honestly don't understand why they are doing this. It doesn't make any sense logically, morally, or politically.

It makes perfect sense if they have no interest in governing and are desperately catering to their base.

The long term consequences aren't real to them, so logic goes out the window. They only pay lip service to their supposed morality, so it's not like they care about doing what helps the greatest number of people.

 

[Aaron]

The GOP is at a point where it only cares about its own political goals, the country be damned.

What do you mean 'at this point?' When Nixon took office?

 

[Krejlooc]

I know how they'll spin it, it is just too transparent for even the average, casual, political independent to not see through. If it was one rider (any of those), yeah, they could get away with it, but they needed to attach everything on their laundry list of dream items. They've been more politically crafty before, but they blew their load all on this bill.

The problem with transparency, unfortunately, is you need to look in the first place to see it :-\

 

[TyrantII]

I honestly don't understand why they are doing this. It doesn't make any sense logically, morally, or politically.

It's breaks government more, which further justifies their rational for being elected.

It's be all of negative feedback loops. They've perfected and convinced a good deal of the population that politics us a dead end and doesn't matter.

 

[gamma]

Mitch McConnell, the Senate majority leader, blasted Democrats for blocking the Senate bill.

“It’s time for our friends to start worrying less about pleasing outside political groups and start worrying more about actually helping the Americans who are counting on us,” he said.

This is almost comically evil.

 

[ShadowSwordmaster]

This is almost comically evil.

These people are super villains.

 

[AstroLad]

This is almost comically evil.

Sadly there are a lot of really dumb white people out there to keep this going for a little while. Not even a majority of the actual populace mind you, but a group of people motivated by their hateful churches, prejudice, etc. Thankfully a lot of them are older, though obviously some clusters of the country are probably always going to be this stupid in the majority.

 

[metalslimer]

Wtf at the confederate flag rider. Who the he'll wants to see confederate flags flying high?

 

[Couleurs]

Well at least it's consistent with Republicans not giving a single fuck about babies after they're born

 

[Krejlooc]

Wtf at the confederate flag rider. Who the he'll wants to see confederate flags flying high?

racists and closet racist.

 

[Silver Arrows]

But remember, one side wants to take away everything and eat your children.

Spoiler

it's the repubs

 

[Protein]

See? Both sides are clearly the same. Time to vote libertarian or green party because I'm above all the mindless, flocks of sheep.

 

[jon bones]

lunatics, the lot of em

 

[gamma]

These people are super villains.

This isn't even hyperbole. These people are actually evil. How can you say what they say with a straight face. Unbelievable.

 

[SlickShoesRUCrazy]

Fuck republicans, fucking pieces of garbage.

 

[The 18th Letter]

Mitch McConnell, the Senate majority leader, blasted Democrats for blocking the Senate bill.

“It’s time for our friends to start worrying less about pleasing outside political groups and start worrying more about actually helping the Americans who are counting on us,” he said.

yes because why would we need clean water and healthcare

 

[Captin Quacker]

I see they found a new strategy in trying to get rid of the ACA

lol confederate flags

Edit:

yes because why would we need clean water and healthcare

how do they willing try and pass a bill that actively pollutes the water and be like this is totally fine?

 

[smokeandmirrors]

racists and closet racist.

coulda just said republicans.

 

[Silver Arrows]

See? Both sides are the same. Time to vote libertarian or green party because I'm above all the mindless, flocks of sheep.

The fact that people still parrot this dumb as fuck talking point when there is piles upon piles of evidence to the contrary boggles my mind.

 

[giant_frying_pan]

30 million dollars of taxpayer money to support the perverted arts.

 

[AstroNut325]

Where are the GAF Republicans? What is the explanation for this? What are your thoughts on this? Gauging the silence... I'm presuming GAF Republicans are supporting these actions of the GOP.

 

[A Link to the Past]

...Y'know, I'm actually convinced that the GOP intentionally sabotaged this bill by putting in things that they knew Democrats would block.

 

[SenorArdilla]

Mitch McConnell, the Senate majority leader, blasted Democrats for blocking the Senate bill.

“It’s time for our friends to start worrying less about pleasing outside political groups and start worrying more about actually helping the Americans who are counting on us,” he said.

Fuck you, Mitch.

 

[DarkKyo]

Republicans are quite successfully slowing down the progress of all humanity.

 

[Yaboosh]

...Y'know, I'm actually convinced that the GOP intentionally sabotaged this bill by putting in things that they knew Democrats would block.

Sounds a little too conspiracy theory to me.

 

[thesaucetastic]

This is so fucking dumb.

 

[Couleurs]

Where are the GAF Republicans? What is the explanation for this? What are your thoughts on this? Gauging the silence... I'm presuming GAF Republicans are supporting these actions of the GOP.

Do they ever post anything except cries about being persecuted by GAF's liberal hivemind? Because I can't recall seeing many instances of any of them actually defending shitty Republican positions

 

[Captin Quacker]

...Y'know, I'm actually convinced that the GOP intentionally sabotaged this bill by putting in things that they knew Democrats would block.

but why would they sink a bill designed to combat a damn virus?

shit boggles the mind

 

[Nerdkiller]

"Democracy simply doesn't work."

 

[A Link to the Past]

Sounds a little too conspiracy theory to me.

Is it though? Because cmon, Republicans added a provision against clean water regulations. The only way it could be so blatantly set up to fail is if it added a provision that GOP Senators get to punch Democratic Senators in the stomach once a day.

 

[WillyFive]

but why would they sink a bill designed to combat a damn virus?

shit boggles the mind

White conservatives don't care what happens to Puerto Rico.

 

[Gordon Shumway]

Is it though? Because cmon, Republicans added a provision against clean water regulations. The only way it could be so blatantly set up to fail is if it added a provision that GOP Senators get to punch Democratic Senators in the stomach once a day.

Doesn't this already happen tho?

 

[A Link to the Past]

but why would they sink a bill designed to combat a damn virus?

shit boggles the mind

Why would they fight regulations for clean water after Flint Michigan? :v These people are pure evil!

Doesn't this already happen tho?

No, they just kick them in the ass and hide