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[Wario64]

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3142839

Keep America Beautiful (KAB) and the National Council to Prevent Delinquency (NCPD) cautioned city council members today to look out for increased delinquency and property crime by juveniles when Atari releases Marc Ecko's Getting Up: Contents Under Pressure. They have asked the ESRB to give the game the "most restritcive rating possible". Huh!?! Do they seriously believe that this game, whick includes no actual killing although some beating up, deserves as AO? Has the world gone mad?

The groups are worried over the publicity on Atari's website, which claims that the game is "a groundbreaking graffiti play system, designed to sharpen your skills as you tag with Aerosol, Rollers, Markers, Wheat Paste, Stickers and Stencils." The game will aid in "allowing you to find ideal places to tag," and demonstrate the ability to "infiltrate areas and avoid capture" and "create tags in pressure situations."

Just add three simple words to all those sentences, people. IN THE GAME. You get to do that in the game.

Maybe it's not kids who are losing track of what's real versus what's in a game; it's the adults.

 

[Matlock]

Doubtful this'll go anywhere, but you can expect a "don't do this at home" message much akin to what was in the Jet Grind games.

 

[Ceb]

Wasn't there similar "controversy" surrounding Jet Set Radio back in the days?

 

[Jeff-DSA]

I'm in favor of stopping the game because it looks retarded.

 

[Lord Error]

Graffiti rule. That's what gives big cities warmth and some urban charm. I'm sure these councils would much rather have everything look sterile or even plastered with Coca Cola billboards, but screw that I say.

The game however, looked kinda crappy at E3.

 

[monchi-kun]

...nevermind the fact that the story of the game revolves around people trying to overthrow an oppressive government (1776 get!!!!)

 

[GoutPatrol]

So, it will just have that "Grafitti is art. But...it's bad to do" warning thing that appears before Jet Grind Radio?

 

[Jeff-DSA]

Graffiti rule. That's what gives big cities warmth and some urban charm. I'm sure these councils would much rather have everything look sterile or even plastered with Coca Cola billboards, but screw that I say.

The game however, looked kinda crappy at E3.

Do you seriously believe that? Graffiti is trash. I lived in South America for a time and it was everywhere. Where I live now, you never (I mean never) see it and I prefer it this way by a long shot.

 

[Teknopathetic]

Graffiti's a beautiful artform.

 

[Funky Papa]

Graffiti rule. That's what gives big cities warmth and some urban charm. I'm sure these councils would much rather have everything look sterile or even plastered with Coca Cola billboards, but screw that I say.

Graffiti's a beautiful artform.

Go clean that shit from my parents' shop then =/ I don't mind if they want to paint, just go and do it on an abandoned warehouse or something.

 

[Teknopathetic]

Why would I want to clean off something I like?

 

[Ceb]

Graffiti art owns. Simple tags, not so much.

 

[Jeff-DSA]

Why would I want to clean off something I like?

So selfish...graffiti artists should just go buy a frickin' posterboard and have at it. Why do they have to mess up people's property?

Seriously.

 

[Lord Error]

Do you seriously believe that? Graffiti is trash. I lived in South America for a time and it was everywhere. Where I live now, you never (I mean never) see it and I prefer it this way by a long shot.

To each his own. It makes me smile when I see a masterfully painted graffiti, especially if it's on a wall where it actually looks appropriate, due to wall's color, texture, location, etc. When I was in LA recently (for E3) walking around santa monica beach, I saw some really beautiful graffiti there. Nothing like that where I live (sigh...)

 

[Funky Papa]

Why would I want to clean off something I like?

Fine, paint your property or whatever you are allowed to, not mine. Because if I ever catch some punk spraying my place I'll hand his ass.

 

[Teknopathetic]

"So selfish...graffiti artists should just go buy a frickin' posterboard and have at it. Why do they have to mess up people's property?"

"Fine, paint your propiety or wherever you are allowed to do it, not mine. Because if I ever catch some punk spraying my place I'll hand his ass."

Wah.

 

[The Faceless Master]

it's a piece by piece thing, some graffiti is amazing, some is just some random idiot spraying their tag

 

[Teknopathetic]

"it's a piece by piece thing, some graffiti is amazing, some is just some random idiot spraying their tag"

Totally true.

 

[Jeff-DSA]

"So selfish...graffiti artists should just go buy a frickin' posterboard and have at it. Why do they have to mess up people's property?"

"Fine, paint your propiety or wherever you are allowed to do it, not mine. Because if I ever catch some punk spraying my place I'll hand his ass."

Wah.

Fine, I'll come piss all over your pillow and leave it like that because I like it. I shouldn't have to clean it up, because I like it. I like it.

 

[Teknopathetic]

"Fine, I'll come piss all over your pillow and leave it like that because I like it. I shouldn't have to clean it up, because I like it. I like it."

Yellow pillows are always fun. Keep in mind, I'm really just mocking you for the ignorant sentence: "Graffiti is trash." A lot of great graffiti artists nowadays keep it on posterboards, etc. Graffiti isn't where it's painted, it's what is painted.

 

[sirris]

There a mile of difference between art and straight up vandalism. When self expression intrudes onto property other than their own unless its been allowed by the owner, it can no longer be constituted as art. Its a crime. Period. Brigdes, bulidings, vehicles were all also created by and artist and are "art". How dare some idiot with 5 bucks and and itchy spray can finger decide to "decorate" things not their own because he believes hes "expressing himself". But I don't endorse a high rating on a title because its subject matter is questioned.

 

[DDayton]

Keep in mind, I'm really just mocking you for the ignorant sentence: "Graffiti is trash." A lot of great graffiti artists nowadays keep it on posterboards, etc. Graffiti isn't where it's painted, it's what is painted.

You know, while the graffiti style can be used in all kinds of artistic ways, graffiti itself is nothing but immature punks messing up property. I don't mind a graffiti-like mural somewhere, but I do mind folks defacing stuff...

 

[Tarazet]

I think everything with Marc Ecko's name on it should be destroyed, but it has nothing to do with the content of this game.

 

[Late Stage Marxist]

There's something to be said for good graffiti. Bad graffiti however should be punishible by death.

 

[inpHilltr8r]

 

[Netrunner2k2]

The only graffiti I see around here are bad spellings of gangs and one that says "MBSLUT" under an overpass.

 

[Tarazet]

The only graffiti I see around here are bad spellings of gangs and one that says "MBSLUT" under an overpass.

Serafitia?

 

[FortNinety]

Great. Not a big fan of the game (mostly due to the man behind the game) and this might help boost sales or something. Wouldn't be surprised if this is some lame marketing ploy.

 

[Johnny]

Taggers are inmature douchebags with an inferiority complex and no talent, noone wants to see your crude dick drawings on bus seats. Graffiti artists that draw beautiful murals on piss-stained underpasses have my admiration however, I know it's public property but it's a clear improvement and wasting public funds to paint over it is a disgrace.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

Wasn't there similar "controversy" surrounding Jet Set Radio back in the days?

IIRC, Sega and the city of San Francisco got together to do some kind of promotion for the game, and when the mayor found out about it, and the game's content, he got all butthurt.

 

[Tempy]

Somehow I think this thread got sidetracked into a real life graffiti discussion. Please take that shit to off-topic.

Killing is bad in real life, but it's pretty fun in a videogame! As long as the graffiti spraying is done in game then what's the big deal?