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Gran Turismo 5 | NeoGAF Racing League | One-off races
- Thread starter Angst
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24 laps is about 3.5 hours. I agree, that is a bit ambitious. 12 is obviously 1.75. I know it is rather hard for our friends in Europe to stay up late, but what if we started the race earlier and did 2.4 hours or about 12-15 laps? Our normal start time is 7pm GMT, so maybe we should start at around 5-6pm GMT.
I think it would be fun to do an endurance type race (or at least endurance by GAF standards). Factoring in things like fatigue, concentration, variable weather, time of day, etc, etc should give people who are not the fastest a better chance at finishing in a good position. The winner won't necessarily be the fastest driver, but the one that runs a smooth, consistent and error free race. I know this may seem intimidating for some, but this is the type of experience that makes you a better driver.
I think it would be fun to do an endurance type race (or at least endurance by GAF standards). Factoring in things like fatigue, concentration, variable weather, time of day, etc, etc should give people who are not the fastest a better chance at finishing in a good position. The winner won't necessarily be the fastest driver, but the one that runs a smooth, consistent and error free race. I know this may seem intimidating for some, but this is the type of experience that makes you a better driver.
Metalmurphy
Member
If you start early you cut dinner time 
A mans gotta eat.
A mans gotta eat.The only reason I shy away from multiclass on 24hr Ring is that it is so large cars tend to get spread out. So we would need to have a full room (which is very rare) in order to make it work. To even make one make on this track worth while we would need 12 people. If people do not want to or cannot commit to this type of race then we should definitely not do it. Each person will end up with nobody in front of or behind them.
I think 12 laps is a decent number. That should be just about 2 hours. TOD rate should be set to a factor of about 12 to experience a full 24hr cycle (Assuming 3 hours gets a factor of 8). Set weather to 1 and see what happens. I think it would be a blast.
If we get enough people to do multiclass I would go with the R8LMS Audi or the R35 TC DLC car for one class. And the Kazmobile for the other. Otherwise I think we should just stick to the stock Kazmobile.
@MM. Protein bars for dinner!
Again, this is something that has to be planned. People have to be willing to schedule out 2 hours of their life. That is a big ask. We may not be able to do it next weekend. But we should definitely do it. If we are short on people I will see if we can get some folks from GTPlanet to join in.
I think 12 laps is a decent number. That should be just about 2 hours. TOD rate should be set to a factor of about 12 to experience a full 24hr cycle (Assuming 3 hours gets a factor of 8). Set weather to 1 and see what happens. I think it would be a blast.
If we get enough people to do multiclass I would go with the R8LMS Audi or the R35 TC DLC car for one class. And the Kazmobile for the other. Otherwise I think we should just stick to the stock Kazmobile.
@MM. Protein bars for dinner!
Again, this is something that has to be planned. People have to be willing to schedule out 2 hours of their life. That is a big ask. We may not be able to do it next weekend. But we should definitely do it. If we are short on people I will see if we can get some folks from GTPlanet to join in.
For the Kazmobile we should do SH-SS. Then if it rains you can do racing inters or wets. I wonder how racing inters compare to sports tires in a dry track.
I am going to pm people, but to save time if you are reading this post please state if you are interested in doing a ~2hr endurance race on the nurb 24hr circuit next weekend, at around 6pm gmt sat or sun. If not next weekend, then please state when.
EarsOfASnake
Member
I am interested in a endurance race but how about a multiclass series of 6 races culminating in the nordschleife ?
2scoops
Member
I'd be ok with this too.
2scoops
Member
And that means you will be even harder to keep up with! Sweet! ( not that i kept up with you anyways. haha! )
I want to race with you guys again. Started GT5 for the first time in months this weekend at it was awesome just racing around the Ring.
I'll be in Paris this weekend and Gothenburg the next weekend though, but I'll definitely make time to attend the race the weekend after that.
I'll be in Paris this weekend and Gothenburg the next weekend though, but I'll definitely make time to attend the race the weekend after that.
I want to race with you guys again. Started GT5 for the first time in months this weekend at it was awesome just racing around the Ring.
I'll be in Paris this weekend and Gothenburg the next weekend though, but I'll definitely make time to attend the race the weekend after that.
Paris awesome
Might be there Sat Afternoon. Rally anyone? And the Ring next week?
Rally! I always wondered why we were not adding this to our race lineup? We should do rally to a road stage and then back to a rally stage. Or just do the long Eiger course
I've always wanted to do a rally race, but the big cloud behind the cars makes races with more than 2 cars practically impossible sadly.
l2ounD
Member
Doh, I didnt think about that. Havent tried this yet, is it really that bad?
Pics were from the gtplanet photo forum, I loved the light hitting the dust in the 2nd pic.
We did a few silly 14 player races on the chamonix snow track... It was sort of fun, but almost impossible to drive any good lines.
How about this for a race list.
Karting @ short course generated track (they are the best for karting) 5 laps
Stock WRC cars SH tires @ Eiger wet (but not raining) 5 laps
Aventador vs Enzo SM tires @ La Sarthe No Chicane 5 laps (just tested this with sm tires we are doing this. It's amazing how close each car is on this track.)
LMP Cars RM @ Monza No Chicane 5 laps.
Karting @ short course generated track (they are the best for karting) 5 laps
Stock WRC cars SH tires @ Eiger wet (but not raining) 5 laps
Aventador vs Enzo SM tires @ La Sarthe No Chicane 5 laps (just tested this with sm tires we are doing this. It's amazing how close each car is on this track.)
LMP Cars RM @ Monza No Chicane 5 laps.
chillumchilla
Member
They all sound great, are we racing this weekend?
2scoops
Member
Oh shit yeah, i'm in.
asclepio_gtr
Member
I'm in too!
2hrs of Nurburgring Endurance Race
Everybody is welcome to join.
BUT:It is not called "The Green Hell" for nothing. Practice and make sure you know the track and the car before the race, clean racing is a must in the weekly races.
Race starts in:
**Time is subject to change based on interest and availability
Allowed cars:
Nissan GT-R N24 Schulze Motor Sports '11
[INDEN]
[/INDENT]
Tuning allowed:
Nurburgring 24 Hour Circuit Time and Weather ChangeLaps:
Race procedure:
Additional rules:
Please take note of the special tire rules. In addition please do not install the racing exhaust on your car or perform any engine modifications. Only Non PP tuning is allowed. The weather will be variable and the time of day will take us from day, to night, and back to day. The Nurburgring is very challenging in these conditions so please practice ahead of time so you know the course. If we do not get 12 or more people to sign up the race will be postponed until a later date.
Lounge:
Everybody is welcome to join.
BUT:It is not called "The Green Hell" for nothing. Practice and make sure you know the track and the car before the race, clean racing is a must in the weekly races.
Race starts in:
Allowed cars:
Nissan GT-R N24 Schulze Motor Sports '11
[INDEN]
[/INDENT]
Tuning allowed:
Non PP tuning is allowed but cars will be HP (550hp) and Weight (1505kg) Limited.
Tyre Selection
Sports Medium or Sports Softs are allowed during normal weather. Racing Inters or full wets are allowed only during inclement weather. Racing hard through Racing Soft Tires are NOT allowed.
Track: Nurburgring 24 Hour Circuit Time and Weather Change
~12
Weather:
Variable: Level 1
Time Change:
Scale set to ~12
Pit Stops:
Yes
Damage
Light
AssistsTCS, ABS
Lounge Settings:
Tyre/Fuel wear: On
Slip stream: Weak
Tyre grip reduction: Real
Players Participating (4 / 16) 12 Person minimum!Slip stream: Weak
Tyre grip reduction: Real
- 01 - paskowitz
- 02 - Toxa
- 03 - asclepio_gtr
- 04 - 2scoops
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- R1 - BradleyLove
- R2 - Kaze13
- R3 - Metalmurphy
- R4 - ashk
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Race procedure:
Lounge opens - 5.00 PM GMT
Lounge reset - 5.55 PM GMT
Qualifications start - 6.00 PM GMT
Race start 6.15 PM GMT
Race end: ~8.15 PM GMT
IMPORTANT - PLEASE READ: Rules and Regulations
Lounge reset - 5.55 PM GMT
Qualifications start - 6.00 PM GMT
Race start 6.15 PM GMT
Race end: ~8.15 PM GMT
IMPORTANT - PLEASE READ: Rules and Regulations
Additional rules:
Please take note of the special tire rules. In addition please do not install the racing exhaust on your car or perform any engine modifications. Only Non PP tuning is allowed. The weather will be variable and the time of day will take us from day, to night, and back to day. The Nurburgring is very challenging in these conditions so please practice ahead of time so you know the course. If we do not get 12 or more people to sign up the race will be postponed until a later date.
Lounge:
Races will be held in the GT5NRL lounge, please add this account to your Friends list. Practice sessions will also be held in the same lounge.
BradleyLove
Member
Can I provisionally add myself to the event? I'll confirm no later than Thursday but if numbers get tight before then, feel free to bump me. I need to check with "the missus" to see if I'll be free.
no multiclass ? everyone with the same car ?
We will do multiclass races later. Multiclass on the nurburgring would be great if GT5 could handle more cars on track, but it just ends up being a ghost town with each car spread out. It may not make as nice a replay, but the racing is closer when its single class.
asclepio_gtr
Member
I'm in.
Metalmurphy
Member
Why are we still racing with light damage btw? We're all grown ups.
The risk, or lack of it, of losing just a few seconds (or almost none if it's just a mild crash) over gaining tons of time by continuously aggressive driving is going to be even less of a drawback in long races like this. And those that cautiously and steady (as you should in endurance races) will be even more penalized by it.
The risk, or lack of it, of losing just a few seconds (or almost none if it's just a mild crash) over gaining tons of time by continuously aggressive driving is going to be even less of a drawback in long races like this. And those that cautiously and steady (as you should in endurance races) will be even more penalized by it.
Metalmurphy
Member
I say just limit it to racing hards. It is a race car after all.
I may change this depending on how people react. While terminal damage is a part of racing, it's not worth a 1/4 of the field crashing out and quitting to achieve. If everyone is ok with, I will change it.
I don't see how it is ambiguous. You can use Sprots hards, mediums, or softs, and racing inters or racing wets (when it rains). Racing inters/wets will degradate quick so any grip advantage will be null). Racing tires have way too much grip for a car like the N24 GTR. If the water on track goes beyond 30-40% then Sports tires (any tire that is not inter/wets) will become unmanageable (especially people with DS3 and moderate levels of skill). This is the only solution to both those problems.
It's pretty simple Sports tires when its dry/damp and inters/wets when its damp/wet.
No, I have not been smoking with Amar... racing tires on 90% or race cars are just wrong. They have too much grip.
