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garath

Member
Woot. Mvp'd my own tiamat. Too bad it only dropped SR weapons in the red chests.

The trick was equipping the fire dagger. Debuffs landed. Still can't solo it but once I got Rosetta going I was dishing out the damage despite the helpers.
 

Yaari

Member
Woot. Mvp'd my own tiamat. Too bad it only dropped SR weapons in the red chests.

The trick was equipping the fire dagger. Debuffs landed. Still can't solo it but once I got Rosetta going I was dishing out the damage despite the helpers.

That's awesome! As long as you can secure the MVP, it is only a matter of time until you can expand on your weapon pool!

I hope you saved Anima for this moment, thats kind of what I did, I had 100~ Tiamat Anima ready for when I could MVP. I do that for every magna.
 

garath

Member
6 more silver certs. I can buy 4 from cerulean store if I really want but I suspect it'll be better to buy 8 blue crystals. That's literally 8 days of grinding co-op.

That's awesome! As long as you can secure the MVP, it is only a matter of time until you can expand on your weapon pool!

I hope you saved Anima for this moment, thats kind of what I did, I had 100~ Tiamat Anima ready for when I could MVP. I do that for every magna.

Nope :( I literally have none. I usually run 2-3 hosted per day and I've had a bad streak of gold animas lately from the very hard tiamat. I think I've gotten a single one in the last week.

But it's progress. I suspect I'll still get sniped once in awhile but it's much easier when I can land debuffs and get 5 stacks on Rosetta. Then I can tank the ougi and keep on dishing out damage. And once I'm at 5, I can generally keep it up indefinitely with just a single round of downtime.
 

h0tp0ck3t

Member
So I'm wondering why everyone says Dark is more of a grind compared to other elements and then notice that there is not a single Celeste item in the renown shop. The struggle is real.
 

garath

Member
5 silver certs to go! Didn't know that grande order could drop them too. I've only ever gotten gold from her. Awesome. So close.

So I'm wondering why everyone says Dark is more of a grind compared to other elements and then notice that there is not a single Celeste item in the renown shop. The struggle is real.

Celeste items are in the renown shop. Check again :)
 

Saprol

Member
So I'm wondering why everyone says Dark is more of a grind compared to other elements and then notice that there is not a single Celeste item in the renown shop. The struggle is real.

No, it's there. The thing is SSR drops from Celeste/Lumi are like 1/3rd of what the other elements get. On top of that, they don't drop SR weapons with +attack skills so you're just sitting there with slower progression than if you ran fire/water/earth/wind.
 

draw4wild

Member
6 more silver certs. I can buy 4 from cerulean store if I really want but I suspect it'll be better to buy 8 blue crystals. That's literally 8 days of grinding co-op

You should just switch to Order Grand raids. She drops blue crystals most of the time plus you can get the silver certs there
 

garath

Member
You should just switch to Order Grand raids. She drops blue crystals most of the time plus you can get the silver certs there

I literally just found out she could drop silver lol.

I do keep an eye out for them. My tweetdeck is bahamut, order grand, tiamat. I only see order grande about a quarter of the quantity that I see bahamut though. Plus I need one more rusted harp to have every single weapon fully uncapped in my stash for the future :)

I will start prioritizing her more. Blue crystals will be one of the next bottlenecks for sure. Down to 150 berries though. Burned through 100 this week even replenishing 10 a day plus drops from very hard raids and the event tickets.
 

garath

Member
I know it's looking way ahead, but I see grinding possibilities for getting all the GW char stuff and I'm actually doing pretty decent (except for needing 325 or so more rainbow crystals -_-) but where do you get a gold bar besides a crazy rare event hell drop? Or is that it?
 

kayos90

Tragic victim of fan death
Is there a particular reason I should swap out my normal SR weapons with weapons I get from Omega drops? Also, how do I know if it's an omega drop? Will it say Omega in the name? Trying to figure out the weapon pool thing now.
 

draw4wild

Member
I know it's looking way ahead, but I see grinding possibilities for getting all the GW char stuff and I'm actually doing pretty decent (except for needing 325 or so more rainbow crystals -_-) but where do you get a gold bar besides a crazy rare event hell drop? Or is that it?

The celestial events, there was that gold dust stuff for 10k points, you need 10 of those
 

Yaari

Member
I know it's looking way ahead, but I see grinding possibilities for getting all the GW char stuff and I'm actually doing pretty decent (except for needing 325 or so more rainbow crystals -_-) but where do you get a gold bar besides a crazy rare event hell drop? Or is that it?

You can trade in 10 rainbow crystals a day in the shop. That, combined with Thursday dungeon grinding, makes for a somewhat steady income of crystals.

Ofcourse it takes a good amount of pots to grind either of those materials in that dungeon. GW really only comes down to a lot of AP. If you have the pots to back it up then its only a mtter of getting the Gold bar which is the tough grind. Anything else can be gotten by just frequently running stages.

PS: Don't buy anything from the Cerulean stones. The blue crystals are frequent grande drops and you'll find yourself wanting to buy the most cheap items like scrolls, simply because its annoying to jump into 40 AP dungeons to grab those. Very inefficient.
 

Falk

that puzzling face
Is there a particular reason I should swap out my normal SR weapons with weapons I get from Omega drops? Also, how do I know if it's an omega drop? Will it say Omega in the name? Trying to figure out the weapon pool thing now.

The Omega summons basically buff their weapon drops' skills (that have a specific name) rather than a straight buff to an element. That's the actual mechanical difference, which then translates into 'use ___ Omega weapons in your pool'.

edit: For a clearer example, Yggdrassil SSR, for example, buffs "Gaia's Skills", and all its weapon drops are "Gaia's Might", "Gaia's Aegis", etc. as opposed to Terra's ____ or Mountain's ____.

I don't think it really matters that much at the SR state since you're likely still going to use vanilla Element Up main and support summons (or Grand Order huehuehue) because no one's crazy enough to skill up SRs to the point Omega as main summon overtakes Element Up.

As a midway point, the Omega SR drops should be much easier to MLB than gacha items though since you're going to be swimming in them while grinding SSRs.
 

kayos90

Tragic victim of fan death
The Omega summons basically buff their weapon drops' skills (that have a specific name) rather than a straight buff to an element. That's the actual mechanical difference, which then translates into 'use ___ Omega weapons in your pool'.

edit: For a clearer example, Yggdrassil SSR, for example, buffs "Gaia's Skills", and all its weapon drops are "Gaia's Might", "Gaia's Aegis", etc. as opposed to Terra's ____ or Mountain's ____.

I don't think it really matters that much at the SR state since you're likely still going to use vanilla Element Up main and support summons (or Grand Order huehuehue) because no one's crazy enough to skill up SRs to the point Omega as main summon overtakes Element Up.

As a midway point, the Omega SR drops should be much easier to MLB than gacha items though since you're going to be swimming in them while grinding SSRs.

Got it. So how do I know it's an Omega SR? Is it in the name?
 

Falk

that puzzling face
Yeah, it'd say Yggdrasil _____

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Example Ygg sword, which I MLB'd since I had so many of them. It's useful as a stat stick, but the typically you'd want to go for ATK up skills rather than HP up. Following this example further, Yggdrasil also drops an SR fist with ATK up. Both these and other drops will have Gaia's ____ as a skill
 

kayos90

Tragic victim of fan death
Yeah, it'd say Yggdrasil _____

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Example Ygg sword, which I MLB'd since I had so many of them. It's useful as a stat stick, but the typically you'd want to go for ATK up skills rather than HP up. Following this example further, Yggdrasil also drops an SR fist with ATK up. Both these and other drops will have Gaia's ____ as a skill

Cool. Thanks for the help Falk. One more quick thing. So right now my goal is to max out my SR omega weapons until it's full. MLB it and max the stats while aiming for the SSR versions and swapping them out as needed? Also, what do I do with the SSR weapon I got from the gacha? Not use them?
 

Falk

that puzzling face
For gacha SSRs, If they're on-element Big ATK Up they're probably going to pack more of a punch than MLB SRs even with a stat deficit (~1400 vs ~1000) since it multiplies the rest of your pool.

As for the SR stepping stone, not specifically Omega SRs, but if you're already going to be sporting some as stat sticks, element ATK up skill > element HP up skill > any other SR. Their primary function are stat sticks after all, but hey, if it's going to throw you some useful ATK (and even HP) multipliers in the interim you might as well put those in the weapon pool vs alternative.

Thing is, again, the Omega weapons only really benefit from Omega summon buffing their skill, so at the SR stage, if e.g. you have an on-element Med ATK Up from an event, you might as well use that in place of an Omega SR since you're not going to be running an Omega SSR Summon as your main just yet, meaning the Omega skill from the Omega SR doesn't get any further benefit over a regular SR.
 

kayos90

Tragic victim of fan death
For SSRs, If they're on-element Big ATK Up they're probably going to pack more of a punch even with a stat deficit since it multiplies the rest of your pool.

As for the SR stepping stone, not specifically Omega SRs, but if you're already going to be sporting some as stat sticks, element ATK up skill > element HP up skill > any other SR. Their primary function are stat sticks after all, but hey, if it's going to throw you some useful ATK (and even HP) multipliers in the interim you might as well put those in the weapon pool vs alternative.

Thing is, again, the Omega weapons only really benefit from Omega summon buffing their skill, so at the SR stage, if e.g. you have an on-element Med ATK Up from an event, you might as well use that in place of an Omega SR since you're not going to be running an Omega SSR Summon as your main just yet, meaning the Omega skill from the Omega SR doesn't get any further benefit over a regular SR.

So use whatever weapons will give you the biggest attack while working towards SSR omegas?
 

Rixa

Member
Since I have a baha, might as well go for a Dark.

Welcome to the pain train.
Lets share the pain. Remember that dark element sr weapons that drop from Celeste are all HP skill. Thus you need pool of ssr weapons that Celeste drops.

If you happen to get Celeste ssr harp, tough luck, Its HP skill. Granted yoy can use that harp as main weapon (class Superstar) so long that you manage to make guild war weapon harp. I have played this game now over 3 months, next week I prolly can finally start to use my gw harp instead Celeste harp.

tl;dr Welcome to grind hell. Emblem shop is your friend.
 

kayos90

Tragic victim of fan death
Lets share the pain. Remember that dark element sr weapons that drop from Celeste are all HP skill. Thus you need pool of ssr weapons that Celeste drops.

If you happen to get Celeste ssr harp, tough luck, Its HP skill. Granted yoy can use that harp as main weapon (class Superstar) so long that you manage to make guild war weapon harp. I have played this game now over 3 months, next week I prolly can finally start to use my gw harp instead Celeste harp.

tl;dr Welcome to grind hell. Emblem shop is your friend.

I mean... should I be going for something else? I guess I could focus on my earth team.
 

demidar

Member
Speaking of Dark Summons, is there a point where Omega Celeste beats Bahamut, like if you have a fully skilled Celeste weapon pool? Or is Baha just straight up better?
 

kiryogi

Banned
Man who would pay 77 million chips for some rando SSR character. That seems like such a huge waste.

I thiiiink she has one of the only 6 slotted guns if you want to play a efficient Wind Gunslinger. And/Or it's Lennah. Gotta check the gun guide again. XD

edit: It is only Christina or Lennah's gun's so :O
 
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whew, 3 million honors get
just need 3 more gold medals and one mlb harp get

trying to decide if i want to fight almost 60 more raid bosses to get the 200 raid boss trophy >_>
 

Rixa

Member
I mean... should I be going for something else? I guess I could focus on my earth team.
Do you have any ssr units for dark? If not are you willing to use money to get them (Surprise ticket, when ever it comes)? 100% atk boost is huge, but it really doesnt help if you dont have units.

Out of my 4 dark ssr units, 3 are from mobacoin use.
- Vaseraga from Star Legend
- Vampy & Vira ST
- Lady Grey, got her during 10m gacha
- Lucius, from first Legend Fest pull

My party is:
Vira / Vampy / LadyG / S.Vaseraga / s.Lucius
Main summon mlb Diablo
Weapon pool is mostly Celeste ssr weapons:
Lb1 axe, Claw, spear
Lb0 axe, axe, claw, claw, harp
Bahamut weapons (sr) sklvl 1 Dagger & Sword

Lb1 Weapons axe & claw are skill level 10, rest are 5-7. I should get gw weapon harp to use next week, just need 49 t1 orbs.

Iam now around 4k renown pendants, thus getting one more Celeste axe next week from Emblem shop. Monthly target is 11110 pendants, so you can buy 2 ssr weapons and one gold, silver, bronze moon every month.

What element you choose, focus to it. Basically it is same thing for every element.
- Do every hard omega (25ap) everyday to get pendants. If you can, use sr party.
- Leech Omegas (5EP costing) with R party. Just be sure to do enough points that you get pendants (and R bonus).
- Host omegas, this costs 50ap and 3 gold animas.
Obviously this is very ap costly, if you cant, then do your own element hard omegas only.

Casino helps, you can buy ap pots, soul seeds, gold animas with chips.
 

Wanchan

Member
Tried my luck at the SSR Star summon, got Kaguya...

....and a new character Vampy (dark/unknown type), really happy.:O

My dark team start to be really strong (Lady Grey, Narmaya, Vampy, Cerberus, Dark Sarunan (shit, could replace him with SR Lucius, SR Vira or hell, even Korwa) ) ...wondering if I should go dark now....but I have so many good teams :(
 

Yaari

Member
Tried my luck at the SSR Star summon, got Kaguya...

....and a new character Vampy (dark/unknown type), really happy.:O

My dark team start to be really strong (Lady Grey, Narmaya, Vampy, Cerberus, Dark Sarunan (shit, could replace him with SR Lucius, SR Vira or hell, even Korwa) ) ...wondering if I should go dark now....but I have so many good teams :(

Grats. That's a good pull. Vampy is top tier unit.

You don't really "go" dark considering how challenging it is to make a good weapon pool. But you certainly have the characters to work towards it.

I'd say just hop into Celeste magna's when given the chance, and perhaps buy those weapons (not sure if Claw is the best?) when you rack up some Valor.


Edit: Also, isnt Kaguya the summon that gives revive? That's pretty good too.
 

MicH

Member
Thus was my pull:

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Awesome! My elements are all over the place now. I originally focused on Earth since I have Sara, but now I have two SSR fire characters and a summon. I may have to switch to fire
 

Wanchan

Member
I'd say just hop into Celeste magna's when given the chance, and perhaps buy those weapons (not sure if Claw is the best?) when you rack up some Valor.

Edit: Also, isnt Kaguya the summon that gives revive? That's pretty good too.

Thanks for the advices, I'll do that! and yes, Kaguya gives revive.
 

Grzi

Member
Fanned Fin Omega Fragment Fanned Fin Omega Fragment Fanned Fin Omega Fragment Fanned Fin Omega Fragment Fanned Fin Omega Fragment Fanned Fin Omega Fragment Fanned Fin Omega Fragment Fanned Fin Omega Fragment Fanned Fin Omega Fragment jesus christ man give me a weapon please
 

garath

Member
The celestial events, there was that gold dust stuff for 10k points, you need 10 of those

Damn. I should have farmed some of those.

You can trade in 10 rainbow crystals a day in the shop. That, combined with Thursday dungeon grinding, makes for a somewhat steady income of crystals.

Ofcourse it takes a good amount of pots to grind either of those materials in that dungeon. GW really only comes down to a lot of AP. If you have the pots to back it up then its only a mtter of getting the Gold bar which is the tough grind. Anything else can be gotten by just frequently running stages.

PS: Don't buy anything from the Cerulean stones. The blue crystals are frequent grande drops and you'll find yourself wanting to buy the most cheap items like scrolls, simply because its annoying to jump into 40 AP dungeons to grab those. Very inefficient.

Good point about the rainbow crystals. I'll start farming those hard since I know it's one of the next bottlenecks. I won't use the cerulean stones. I've been doing good with co op lately. Only missed the blue stone once in the last two weeks.

Going to come down to the gold bar eventually.

Got it. So how do I know it's an Omega SR? Is it in the name?

If you change the view to skills so you can see skill level, the omega ones have a M on the skill icon. SR and SSR.
 

Gizuko

Member
What do Order raids drop? I know rainbow crystals, blue stones, certificates, omega fragments and feathers are fairly common drops, but what are the rare ones?
 

Yaari

Member
What do Order raids drop? I know rainbow crystals, blue stones, certificates, omega fragments and feathers are fairly common drops, but what are the rare ones?

150 feathers makes a Cosmos weapon, it gives 30% attack boost to similar weapons types in your pool and it has a bonus for a specific type of characters you use/ Attackers, Balanced, Defensive, stuff like that

Damn. I should have farmed some of those.



Good point about the rainbow crystals. I'll start farming those hard since I know it's one of the next bottlenecks. I won't use the cerulean stones. I've been doing good with co op lately. Only missed the blue stone once in the last two weeks.

Going to come down to the gold bar eventually.



If you change the view to skills so you can see skill level, the omega ones have a M on the skill icon. SR and SSR.

The real pain is the gold bar grind and the fact that Celestial events arent all too common. So if you cant grind the bar in a single event, that's another 1,5 month wait til you can finish it.
 

commish

Jason Kidd murdered my dog in cold blood!
Can I dump my excess rusted weapons? I have... a lot. And is there any other place to get berries for raids? I get the 10 a day from casino but I'm running out.
 

Gizuko

Member
150 feathers makes a Cosmos weapon, it gives 30% attack boost to similar weapons types in your pool and it has a bonus for a specific type of characters you use/ Attackers, Balanced, Defensive, stuff like that

Do cosmos weapons drop, though?

I want to eventually farm 150 feathers but, since I only need one horn for the SSR gun (Slvl will take longer, but seems worth it) I'm considering wether to get the last few silver certs from baha or Order raids, so I was looking for deal breakers.

Might as well start the feather farm early, though.
 

Yaari

Member
Do cosmos weapons drop, though?

I want to eventually farm 150 feathers but, since I only need one horn for the SSR gun (Slvl will take longer, but seems worth it) I'm considering wether to get the last few silver certs from baha or Order raids, so I was looking for deal breakers.

Might as well start the feather farm early, though.

No, you can get them by hosting a grande but that takes some dedication to even get the required anima to do so.

I'd go with Bahamut to get that horn. Then switch when you have it.
 

Gizuko

Member
No, you can get them by hosting a grande but that takes some dedication to even get the required anima to do so.

I'd go with Bahamut to get that horn. Then switch when you have it.

That sounds pretty bad. Guess I'm skipping Cosmos weapons altogether until I give them more thought, thank you.
 

garath

Member
150 feathers makes a Cosmos weapon, it gives 30% attack boost to similar weapons types in your pool and it has a bonus for a specific type of characters you use/ Attackers, Balanced, Defensive, stuff like that



The real pain is the gold bar grind and the fact that Celestial events arent all too common. So if you cant grind the bar in a single event, that's another 1,5 month wait til you can finish it.

Ugh. I really should have at least grabbed a few gold chunks last event. Hope I can farm all 10 next event.
 
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