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[SlimySnake]

Hmm I must have missed that detail, well that's cool, I never seemed to have much issues with LODs or pop-in on SW outlaws (didn't play avatar)

Snowdrop uses mesh shaders for foliage. They made no mention of using mesh shaders for non-foliage objects.

 

[Edder1]

The ign 9 minutes gameplay of mafia didn't impressed me at all, ngl.

Transition from gameplay to cutscenes is very smooth and welcome. I'm not sure why anyone was impressed with the game outside of cutscenes they showed, it all looked standard stuff. You can tell they brought animations and gunplay over from Mafia remake, which is not great. The game never looked impressive to me from anything they showed in-game thus far.

Edit: IQ looks washed out. I first thought it was YouTube compression, but on second look some of the texture work is very poor. After seeing Witcher 4 the lighting is also weak. They're probably using software Lumen.

 

[GooseMan69]

The fuck is this? Looks a gen behind TLOU II. Night time lighting is completely flat. PS3 era animations. Very disappointing.

 

[Balducci30]

If you like MMOs fetch quests then this game is for you.

The graphics are good, but nothing revolutionary.

I don't like mmo fetch quests

 

[roosnam1980]

no pop-in visible in that mafia gameplay video

 

[GooseMan69]

The ign 9 minutes gameplay of mafia didn't impressed me at all, ngl.

I'm actually stunned at how poor it looks, both visually and gameplay wise. Animation work in particular is unbelievably bad by 2025 standards.

 

[GymWolf]

Transition from gameplay to cutscenes is very smooth and welcome. I'm not sure why anyone was impressed with the game outside of cutscenes they showed, it all looked standard stuff. You can tell they brought animations and gunplay over from Mafia remake, which is not great. The game never looked impressive to me from anything they showed in-game thus far.

Edit: IQ looks washed out. I first thought it was YouTube compression, but on second look some of the texture work is very poor. After seeing Witcher 4 the lighting is also weak. They're probably using software Lumen.

I was not impressed by the cutscene neither since the models are kinda poor.

You can look at my poost history, i was never as impressed like slimy, i was probably the most negative one.

 

[GymWolf]

I'm actually stunned at how poor it looks, both visually and gameplay wise. Animation work in particular is unbelievably bad by 2025 standards.

All the mafia have kinda janky animations, yes even mafia 3 that is the best of the bunch animation wise was nowhere near even tlou1 on ps3 animation wise (but tbf, a lot of modern games have worse animations than tlou1).

I was not expecting much animation wise.

 

[Edder1]

I was not impressed by the cutscene neither since the models are kinda poor.

You can look at my poost history, i was never as impressed like slimy, i was probably the most negative one.

Cutscenes look good imo, not great. The in-game stuff is the letdown. Outside of couple of screenshots of some high res assets the game looked ok at best, not sure why some people thought it looked great.

 

[Edder1]

We have to talk about animations. While the visuals have gradually improved, animations are still atrocious industry wide and we're still running PS4 era animations 95% of the time (probably more). When combined with improved visuals these animations stand out like a sore thumb. This is the biggest stagnant point in games today.

 

[Gonzito]

The fuck is this? Looks a gen behind TLOU II. Night time lighting is completely flat. PS3 era animations. Very disappointing.

Some textures are from the ps3 era.

Unbelievable

 

[Msamy]

The ign 9 minutes gameplay of mafia didn't impressed me at all, ngl.

+1

 

[RodriGames40]

We have to talk about the animations. While the visuals have gradually improved, animations are still atrocious industry wide and we're still running PS4 era animations in 95% of the games. When combined with improved visuals these animations stand out like a sore thumb. This is the biggest stagnant point in games today.

Animation has no silver bullet to be made standard and make it "good" across the board unfortunately. Metahumans have been putting in some work in the facial front, but body wide animations require the studio to actually be competent at motion capture.

 

[BlownUpRich]

The new Mafia game will introduce skippable mission sections, so whenever SlimySnake finds a graphically inconsistent section, he can simply skip it.

The game already looks extremely inconsistent & simple video gamey looking in many sections.

Edit: Man this game feels so generic, I wouldn't play it even if it was for free, not worth my time.

 

[Edder1]

Animation has no silver bullet to be made standard and make it "good" across the board unfortunately. Metahumans have been putting in some work in the facial front, but body wide animations require the studio to actually be competent at motion capture.

A lot of AAA studios have access to state of the art motion capture, they just choose to use same animations to save money and time.

 

[Wolzard]

I need to remind you gentlemen what a PS3 is, before you continue with these bizarre arguments.

 

[BlownUpRich]

Death Stranding 2 looks way more impressive than Mafia AKA the budget UE5 game, you get sharp shadows and some over-exaggerated light bleed thanks to GI.

 

[SlimySnake]

The new Mafia game will introduce skippable mission sections, so whenever SlimySnake finds a graphically inconsistent section, he can simply skip it.

The game already looks extremely inconsistent & simple video gamey looking in many sections.

Edit: Man this game feels so generic, I wouldn't play it even if it was for free, not worth my time.

If a girl has a beautiful face, incredible tits, gorgeous hour glass figure, lush curly hair, and a smoking ass then yes, if she sometimes looks mid under some lighting conditions, i'd be inclined to ignore some of her shortcomings.

Now if a girl looks like shit everywhere except for in snowy mountains then unless im living in the fucking alps, i am not going to touch her with a ten foot pole.

 

[rofif]

I need to remind you gentlemen what a PS3 is, before you continue with these bizarre arguments.

looks like a ps2 game

 

[Kikorin]

+1

For a 50€ game looks fine, I'm glad they did another chapter for the series. Graphically looks average, but never looked impressive at all except for UE5 supporters out there.

And someone in this thread even tried to convince us that the next Mafia will looks better than something like Death Stranding 2 lol

 

[BlownUpRich]

If a girl has a beautiful face, incredible tits, gorgeous hour glass figure, lush curly hair, and a smoking ass then yes, if she sometimes looks mid under some lighting conditions, i'd be inclined to ignore some of her shortcomings.

Now if a girl looks like shit everywhere except for in snowy mountains then unless im living in the fucking alps, i am not going to touch her with a ten foot pole.

Nah Slimy is on a whole different level with his comments, that's why we love you.

 

[realcool]

If a girl has a beautiful face, incredible tits, gorgeous hour glass figure, lush curly hair, and a smoking ass then yes, if she sometimes looks mid under some lighting conditions, i'd be inclined to ignore some of her shortcomings.

Now if a girl looks like shit everywhere except for in snowy mountains then unless im living in the fucking alps, i am not going to touch her with a ten foot pole.

Beer is the original Unreal Engine.

 

[GymWolf]

Death Stranding 2 looks way more impressive than Mafia AKA the budget UE5 game, you get sharp shadows and some over-exaggerated light bleed thanks to GI.

look the same as the sea foam from hfw.

 

[benzy]

This gif looks amazing. Are you playing in quality mode or performance mode? pro or base?

Playing on Pro performance.

Got a bit further in the game. Did you unlock the Pizza Chef cutscene? tbh I dropped the first game near the beginning and thought it was pretty boring, but I'm liking this one better. But yeah some areas look a lot better than others.

 

[PeteBull]

The fuck is this? Looks a gen behind TLOU II. Night time lighting is completely flat. PS3 era animations. Very disappointing.

For constrast/comparision thats uncharted4 both on 1,8tf base ps4 and 4,2tf ps4pr0, both ofc with jaguar cpu which was visibly weaker even from 2011's 2500k ;D

 

[rofif]

For constrast/comparision thats uncharted4 both on 1,8tf base ps4 and 4,2tf ps4pr0, both ofc with jaguar cpu which was visibly weaker even from 2011's 2500k ;D

exactly. and uncharted 4 looks better aside from obvious lods.
but hey, it's ue5 so at least it's nanite and lumen... in this static game.

 

[coachmcguirk91]

Cutscenes look good imo, not great. The in-game stuff is the letdown. Outside of couple of screenshots of some high res assets the game looked ok at best, not sure why some people thought it looked great.

Because its UE5, and some people here desperately want a proper UE5 game to live up to its potential. What's the next AAA UE5 game to get excited for? Outer Worlds 2?

 

[Luipadre]

Just finished DS2 and the last few hours were jaw dropping at locked 60 fps. It looked fucking insane on OLED tv with the incredible HDR

 

[PeteBull]

exactly. and uncharted 4 looks better aside from obvious lods.
but hey, it's ue5 so at least it's nanite and lumen... in this static game.

I agree uc4 looks better overall, ofc we can nitpick and find areas where mafia beats it but if we put footage side by side, even casual will chose uc4 as more beautiful/technically advanced xD

 

[BlownUpRich]

Mafia received a massive graphical downgrade. Oh that 60 fps cost or else it'll be another stuttery experience.

That's why it looked subpar in the latest gameplay, disgusting.

 

[rofif]

Mafia received a massive graphical downgrade. Oh that 60 fps cost or else it'll be another stuttery experience.

That's why it looked subpar in the latest gameplay, disgusting.

that's not a downgrade lol.
It's just a different light

 

[SlimySnake]

Playing on Pro performance.

Got a bit further in the game. Did you unlock the Pizza Chef cutscene? tbh I dropped the first game near the beginning and thought it was pretty boring, but I'm liking this one better. But yeah some areas look a lot better than others.

nah, he wont give me any more orders. hes the only one i still have at 2 stars. what is this move? does he give you it?

 

[Edellus]

Death Stranding 2 looks way more impressive than Mafia AKA the budget UE5 game, you get sharp shadows and some over-exaggerated light bleed thanks to GI.

Decima is impressive, but that particular aspect (the foam) is not new. It was also present in HFW.

 

[Edder1]

Mafia received a massive graphical downgrade. Oh that 60 fps cost or else it'll be another stuttery experience.

That's why it looked subpar in the latest gameplay, disgusting.

As someone pointed out on X the teaser was "in-engine" and not actually in game.

 

[ResetEraVetVIP]

What the hell? This is a game? What is UE5 doing that other engines aren't to get results like these. I feel like GTA6 is the only one that has surpassed it, while at this point last gen many had surpassed UE4

Microgeometry and Lumen.

 

[Senua]

that's not a downgrade lol.
It's just a different light

 

[ResetEraVetVIP]

lmao

 

[powder]

that's not a downgrade lol.
It's just a different light

eyebrows

 

[Msamy]

There is a Chinese UE5 game in development called grass of genesis watching 2 girect feed gameplay videos from their official website, all I gonna say even if this game is cloud based, and if those gameplay videos are not bullshit which is 95% likely then this game is one of the best real time gameplay that I have ever seen, link for their website

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[RNK]

I was not impressed by the cutscene neither since the models are kinda poor.

You can look at my poost history, i was never as impressed like slimy, i was probably the most negative one.

We're all shocked

 

[mrMUR_96]

Animation has no silver bullet to be made standard and make it "good" across the board unfortunately. Metahumans have been putting in some work in the facial front, but body wide animations require the studio to actually be competent at motion capture.

Tbf, UE adding motion-matching as a built-in feature should help a lot. Hopefully we'll see it help towards the end of the gen and next gen. But yes, it's absolutely sticking out quite obviously on a lot of games, physics too is a a weaker point.

 

[benzy]

nah, he wont give me any more orders. hes the only one i still have at 2 stars. what is this move? does he give you it?

Go to the nearby enemy camp next to the pizza chef. Search around in one of the buildings to grab the Misagna box and deliver it to him. Should get a cutscene to open up the door inside his outpost, search in there until another cutscene happens. After that, it'll let you do more missions to increase the star rank which he'll give you 3 melee moves.

 

[alloush]

 

[SlimySnake]

Go to the nearby enemy camp next to the pizza chef. Search around in one of the buildings to grab the Misagna box and deliver it to him. Should get a cutscene to open up the door inside his outpost, search in there until another cutscene happens. After that, it'll let you do more missions to increase the star rank which he'll give you 3 melee moves.

Man i love your gifs. Please post more. Im like your biggest fan lol

I have a lot of captures of the mountain region i need to gif. There is a boss fight in the snow that was absolutely spectacular. I had four flying sentry guns just melting the boss as it was literally throwing buses at me. Right in a middle of what felt like a snowstorm. Absolutely amazing stuff.

 

[SlimySnake]

this thread immediately after the State of Play.

 

[Audiophile]

I wonder if we'll get a director's cut of DS2. Hopefully -- given that resolution and FPS will add practically nothing to the experience -- it comes after a major upgrade to Decima for Horizon 3 and they implement RTGI or something for it.

 

[powder]

I wonder if we'll get a director's cut of DS2. Hopefully -- given that resolution and FPS will add practically nothing to the experience -- it comes after a major upgrade to Decima for Horizon 3 and they implement RTGI or something for it.

I don't think it needs RTGI. Director's Cut would imply more missions/gear/vehicles/horny