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[Senua]

I applaud a good result, not good intentions, especially when games take 5+ years to be made, more if you consider when control was released.

Bobby Kotick, is that you?

 

[SlimySnake]

MGS3 looks amazing but i wanted to ask if you guys think this is worthy of a 3 generation leap.

 

[GymWolf]

MGS3 looks amazing but i wanted to ask if you guys think this is worthy of a 3 generation leap.

Didn't we established already that this gen is far from optimal?

 

[GymWolf]

Bobby Kotick, is that you?

Possible but not yet confirmed.

 

[Senua]

MGS3 looks amazing but i wanted to ask if you guys think this is worthy of a 3 generation leap.

Looking at the bottom pic I have a sudden urge to urinate

 

[analog_future]

MGS3 looks amazing but i wanted to ask if you guys think this is worthy of a 3 generation leap.

I wouldn't say MGS3 looks "amazing" tbh. It has it's moments but it's a bit of a mid-tier UE5 title.

 

[Alex11]

How do you get that from my post?

What i say is that at 4k, maxed out, the game in my oled tv never looked as pristine as those pics, and cyberpunk is the game where i notice the biggest discrepancy between pics and what i see with my eyes, it is super strange.

Ok, I see what you mean, I think I know why you say this. Sometimes I get this feeling too while I'm playing the game.

IMO it's a combination of these things, at least for me anyway:
- The UI which adds all sorts of ugly shit on the screen.
- Smearing and flickering from path tracing that makes the image unstable, we see this also with lumen on UE5.
- The general gameplay of the game, meaning the weird physics, objects floating and all sorts of stuff like this.

I would fucking love if i could play with the graphic of your pics but i can manage to get that on my setup, no matter how much money i throw at it

My hunch is that screenshot softwares add some sort of filter that perfect the image in some way or another.

I don't use screenshot software, I just open the photomode and use the Steam or Windows screenshot key. So I don't use the game's screenshot tool.

This way it adds nothing extra to the scene, it doesn't enhance it, maybe it's a bit higher resolution, but that's it, I have made tons of comparisons, I have one that shows this:

https://imgsli.com/NDAyMjk0

 

[Alex11]

i think massive made two gorgeous looking ultimately hollow games that flopped because they simply didnt get the gameplay right. say what you will about ubisoft games, but they all had solid gameplay. same cant be said about avatar and outlaws. massive shouldve worked with ac devs to try and figure out the ubisoft formula before deciding to work on two single player open world games. Get a designer from the Splinter cell team to help with stealth, get someone from the AC and Far Cry teams to help add new skills that actually change the way you play the game, and hire some sony guys to do proper cutscenes and maybe it wouldve been a great game.

the thing is that while the gameplay had its issues at launch, a lot of the hate came earlier due to politics and other internet gamer outrage. these retards dont really play games. they dont care about graphics, gameplay, or the fact that this was a single player game that was greenlit in an era where everyone was going GaaS. they decided this was the next game to target and make some quick bucks while farming engagement.

i can understand the complaints but i cant stand the outrage and the boycotts. the KCD2 thread on the first page is basically the same. i get it. henry wasnt gay in the first game, and fans feel betrayed but its fucking optional and the game is fantastic otherwise. on era just yesterday, this dude was upset at everyone for outlaws flopping, then said that he didnt play the game at launch and only got it 6 months ago. well, fuck you, you are the problem. games live and die based on the initial sales. it flopped because you didnt give it a chance and now we will never get a sequel.

Yeah, the hate or criticism due to politics or other nonsense bores the hell out of me, it needs to be ignored to just die and let these people yell at the wall, they're a minority and have real brain issues.

But besides all that crap, the game had broken as hell stuff at launch; I couldn't play it. I wanted to like it, but it doesn't matter if it's gorgeous, or it's SW, it is what it is. Maybe it's better now. I'll try it again one day.

90% of twitter is full of people talking about how graphics havent improved since batman arkham city. and yet none of these buffoons played outlaws. 90% of them only just started playing avatar two years after launch. i will never understand boycotting games for politics or reasons other than gameplay. hell, i play half of these games knowing the gameplay sucks just because i want to reward devs who went above and beyond with the graphics. i am brutal in my assessment of the game, but i make sure to buy them.

These people should also be ignored like the ones with agendas that don't have anything to do with a game. They don't know anything else, or worse, they know exactly what they're doing and thrive on just shitting on everything no matter the reason.
These people don't know the difference between art styles, geometry complexity, light bounce, etc. and yeah probably judge a game's visuals based on their platform preference or just a screenshot from a game, that screen being the worst the game can look.

 

[Victhemic]

MGS3 looks amazing but i wanted to ask if you guys think this is worthy of a 3 generation leap.

That should be maximum two. But we know how the development of computer chips power slowed down the last 20 years. Every year it gets worse. Man do I miss the phase of the mid 90s to the mid 00s. The change/growth in power was HUGE. 3 generation changes during that time, where each new one made the last one look so incredibly obsolete...these times will never return...

 

[Abysse]

 

[SlimySnake]

ok, but these guys also gave Doom Graphics of the Year.

 

[ResetEraVetVIP]

That should be maximum two. But we know how the development of computer chips power slowed down the last 20 years. Every year it gets worse. Man do I miss the phase of the mid 90s to the mid 00s. The change/growth in power was HUGE. 3 generation changes during that time, where each new one made the last one look so incredibly obsolete...these times will never return...

I think its probably purposely done by big corps to prolong sales and generations, there is no way TLOU 2 can be done on 1.8 TFLOPs and 5 years into the new gen PC included barely any games completely blow it away. All engines are outdated except a handful, Corporations are greedy, Devs overworked and sometimes lazy, COVID delayed engines etc. Remember that real time NVIDIA cars demo that looked like it was the future that was supposed to release years ago? Where is it? Games have a LONG way to go at least 2 gens before perfect photo realism, The Matrix Awakens demo and Hellblade 2 already look photo realistic in some cutscenes...