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[GymWolf]

It's mostly memes at this point, but I don't even agree that the lighting is "improved". It's punchy but it's extremely gaudy and unrealistic. It looks like everything is lit in a photo studio.

Is pre-rendered CGI lit like that? Are movies lit like that? Is real life lit like that?

The answer is no.


I think there's potential in the tech but the initial showing couldn't have been much worse than it was. It looks frankly ridiculous right now.


And I know it's in pre-alpha or whatever, but the fact that it took two 5090s to run this is crazy as well. Imagine what 2 5090's could do with traditional rendering. If this AI enhancement is this expensive, what's the fucking point?

Like i said, this tech is still in its infancy state, some pics looks good, some not much.

 

[analog_future]

Like i said, this tech is still in its infancy state, some pics looks good, some not much.

Right. But again, people are going to judge what they're being shown, and rightfully so. Not what the tech might theoretically evolve into down the line.

 

[GymWolf]

No way 6070 has enough of vram pool or actual oomph, it wont be stronger from current 5080 and thats way too weak, 5070 to 5080 is about +50% perf in games(and obviously 4gigs more vram)
Imho lowest we could hope for is 6070ti aka same die but cut down a bit than 6080, 24gigs of vram minimum and likely well over 1k usd streetprice too- thats why my take is, even in 1,5 year from now on dlss5 will still be niche af, kinda like rt/dlss was durning turing.

6080 it is then.

Right. But again, people are going to judge what they're being shown, and rightfully so. Not what the tech might theoretically evolve into down the line.

Not the devs\nvidia fault if people have zero imagination and zero forward thinking, after many years they should know that tech improve with time, right now they sound like childs watching their first tech special...

What they are showing now look mostly impressive except some faces here and there, but people are only focusing on the small bad part and ignoring the huge good part.

 

[analog_future]

6080 it is then.

Not the devs\nvidia fault if people have zero imagination and zero forward thinking, after many years they should know that tech improve with time, right now they sound like childs watching their first tech special...

What they are showing now look mostly impressive except some faces here and there, but people are only focusing on the small bad part and ignoring the huge good part.

It's absolutely Nvidia's fault to not anticipate the public response to this showing. Anyone with half a brain should've seen this coming.

 

[GymWolf]

It's absolutely Nvidia's fault to not anticipate the public response to this showing. Anyone with half a brain should've seen this coming.

They could have avoided the more blatant tiktok filters but they gave an idea of how transformative the tech can be.

 

[analog_future]

They could have avoided the more blatant tiktok filters but they gave an idea of how transformative the tech can be.

The real issue here is idea that anyone was going to give literally the largest company on our planet some slack or the benefit of the doubt. That's not the audience's responsibility.

 

[vpance]

It's mostly memes at this point, but I don't even agree that the lighting is "improved". It's punchy but it's extremely gaudy and unrealistic. It looks like everything is lit in a photo studio.

Is pre-rendered CGI lit like that? Are movies lit like that? Is real life lit like that?

The answer is no.


I think there's potential in the tech but the initial showing couldn't have been much worse than it was. It looks frankly ridiculous right now.


And I know it's in pre-alpha or whatever, but the fact that it took two 5090s to run this is crazy as well. Imagine what 2 5090's could do with traditional rendering. If this AI enhancement is this expensive, what's the fucking point?

Generally AI has had a tendency to make portrait imagery look like it's been run through clarity or edge contrast boosting which might be happening here, but that's just out of the box settings.

This is where the artist should draw the line and make a decision to make characters look more artful rather than photo real. Current games have this hybrid real and rendered look because tech isn't there to bring it much further anyways. But AI can easily generate a high quality offline rendered look too.

So yeah DLSS5 is definitely going to make uncanny valley type enhancements but artists will just have to be more careful going about applying it.

 

[GymWolf]

The real issue here is idea that anyone was going to give literally the largest company on our planet some slack or the benefit of the doubt. That's not the audience's responsibility.

The biggest company in the world should not care about some haters that can't see beyond their nose and that are still gonna end buying their products because they are so far beyond what amd can offer, it is the advantage of being the best of the best.

In a way i apprecciate that jensen doesn't give a fuck tbh, it's not like he is gonna lose ANY money or clients after this, you know it, i know it, he knows it.

 

[Killer8]

Path traced:

DLSS5:

My Photoshop:

Ported the eyes and mouth directly from the path traced image. Adjusted the opacity between the DLSS5 and path traced face by about 75%, to blend it better. Lowered the overall scene brightness to closer match original.

I assume developers will have far more control than I did with the masking.

 

[Dust-by-Monday]

Path traced:

DLSS5:

My Photoshop:

Ported the eyes and mouth directly from the path traced image. Adjusted the opacity between the DLSS5 and path traced face by about 75%, to blend it better. Lowered the overall scene brightness to closer match original.

I assume developers will have far more control than I did with the masking.

Yours looks so much better. It's more subtle and doesn't have that very obvious fake generated image look that so many ai photos use.

 

[Represent.]

We finally have hot women representation in games, and the nerdy Ai haters are crying about it.

 

[Gonzito]

Path traced:

DLSS5:

My Photoshop:

Ported the eyes and mouth directly from the path traced image. Adjusted the opacity between the DLSS5 and path traced face by about 75%, to blend it better. Lowered the overall scene brightness to closer match original.

I assume developers will have far more control than I did with the masking.

Really good. Definitely an improvement

 

[Myuni]

I am hyped.
I mean, the only time I get the impression that I'm actually looking at a convincing human being in a game is during cutscenes like in Uncharted 4, TLOU 2, etc., that require tons of resources to create.
In-game, 99.9% of all characters still resemble a more or less decently assembled N64 robot.
DLSS5 has the potential to ramp up facial fidelity dramatically for every frickin single NPC basically on the fly. This is huge. I just hope they'll do something on a similar scale to improve animations; otherwise, it would look jarring.

Concerning RE9, a super hot 'AI Slop Grace' is certainly something I'm looking forward to, but what I'm really interested in is the DLSS5 rendition of the zombies. If they go the whole hog and make them look like actual corpses, it would be horrifyingly scary, truly unsettling.