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Greedo's shot? What the hell is that?

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Cruel Bastard Mario said:
You know, Han Shot First would be a pretty cool band name.
That comment just made my day. :lol

Anyways, last time I saw A New Hope on VHS, my bro slowed down the video when Greedo got shot. In a split second you see this fake ass Greedo with an extended neck get blown up. It's pretty damn funny.
 

Bregor

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I don't care if Greedo is supposed to be the worst bounty hunter in existence (not that I give much credit to the EU), it isn't credible that anybody could miss at that range.
 

Ah Beng

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The scene kind of looked stupid in the original special editions like han solo entered freezeframe for a second with a shot whizzing over his shoulder. Also it is kind of like adding a CG knife whizzing over Indy's shoulder in the scene where he shoots the swordsman. 20 yrs ago in kids films you have Indy Jones who is killing Arabs and Nazis left, right and center. now Han Solo retroactively is not even allowed to murder Greedo?

Still he was in a bar.. maybe Greedo had too many space absinthes and was drunk and that's why he missed..

btw this is what lucas has to say about the change -
Lucas: No, it's always been that he wasn't a murderer. He's a rogue and everything but he doesn't gun people down without them firing first. Ultimately, it's a crucial point in his character, but it's not a crucial point in the overall story.
 

SteveMeister

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I've been a huge Star Wars fan since 1977. I love the original trilogy, and there is a lot to like about the prequels, even with the obvious flaws. When the special editions were released, there were exactly two changes I didn't like. Greedo shooting first, and Luke's scream. Luke's scream was BY FAR a much worse change, however, because it completely destroyed the momentous event of Luke choosing death over joining with his father. It was an alteration that changed the story significantly -- it meant that Luke was all bluster and no REAL conviction.

On the DVD's, Han and Greedo fire almost simultaneously, and Han is digitally shifted over the side. It's an unnatural movement. But, it is still better than the SE version. But my problem with the scene in either the SE or DVD version isn't so much an issue of Han's character, rather it is with how poorly the scenes were altered. Both versions just look unnatural. But who shoots first, to me, doesn't impact Han's character significantly enough to ruin the movie for me. It's a minor flaw, not a show-stopper.

But, beyond all that, they are still JUST MOVIES. Getting all worked up over them is a waste of time -- just enjoy them for what they are, or ignore them.
 

ManaByte

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Bog said:
No. Wald.

Wrong. It was Greedo. It is a scene cut from the movie. Wald is to the right on the screen. Greedo is the Rodian Anakin is fighting with.

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EXT. TATOOINE - STREET - SLAVE QUARTERS - DAY

ANAKIN and GREEDO are rolling around on the floor, fighting. About A DOZEN
OR SO KIDS are standing around them, yelling. Suddenly, a long shadow is
cast over the TWO BOYS; they stop fighting and look up. QUI-GOMN is towering
above them. KITSTER is with them.

QUI-GON : What's this?
ANAKIN : He said I cheated.
QUI-GON : Did you?
ANAKIN : No!
QUI-GON : Do you still think he cheated?
GREEDO : Yes.
QUI-GON : Well, Annie. You know the truth... You will have to tolerate his
opinion, fighting won't change it.

QUI-GON moves off down the street. Anakin follows. The GREEDO wanders over
to WALD who has been watching the goings-on.

WALD : Keep this up, Greedo, and you're gonna come to a bad end.

Wald even calls him Greedo. The scene is on the DVD in the deleted scenes.
 

Phoenix

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SteveMeister said:
I've been a huge Star Wars fan since 1977. I love the original trilogy, and there is a lot to like about the prequels, even with the obvious flaws. When the special editions were released, there were exactly two changes I didn't like. Greedo shooting first, and Luke's scream. Luke's scream was BY FAR a much worse change, however, because it completely destroyed the momentous event of Luke choosing death over joining with his father. It was an alteration that changed the story significantly -- it meant that Luke was all bluster and no REAL conviction.


It did? I didn't like them because it made luke sound like a little bitch. Worst scream ever. Other than that I didn't think the scream changed the character at all for pretty much the same reasons why the solo shotting first, last, same time, having force powers and melting greedo wouldn't make any difference to me.
 

Bog

Junior Ace
Ah yes. Now I remember that scene.

I didn't really look at the screenshot in question, just that someone thought the little Rodian in Ep1 was Greedo. Since the guy who mentioned that character probably wasn't talking about that deleted scene, though...
 
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