Yeah it was that bad
Green Lantern: The animated series |OT| bruce timm's return to animation IN THREE DEE
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Yeah it was that bad
SpeedySwaf
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It sucks that two great shows by two great creators are both getting shit-canned. The best we can probably ever hope for as far as continuation are a DTV or two. I feel especially bad about YJ: Weisman can't seem to work on a show without it getting screwed over somehow.
I wonder what Timm and Weisman will work on next when all is said and done?
I wonder what Timm and Weisman will work on next when all is said and done?
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
I'd always think Timm would get leeway because of being part of DCAU :/
Rafa=FedKilla
Banned
Nah. CN practically ran Genndy out of town and he single handily prevented CN from having to show the entire Hanna Barbera library all day.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Man, fuck CN and their suits.
Seems like Nick is the only one not screwing everyone.
Choppasmith
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Seconded. I gave it a chance solely from this show and is nowhere in the same league.
Wow. I had completely missed it. I just passed it off as since kind of comic reference. Somehow I didn't realize they made an actual jab at the Daily Show.
Razgriz-Specter
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from WB yes, from CN no.
CN doesn't have a clue about anything.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Man fuck CN. Fuck them and their want to spam shows with Ben 10 and Johnny Test.
Although I heard Ben 10 is being shafted to poor hours now.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
I'm surprised it took them now to make a John Stewart joke.
That would screw a lot of things up. (Surprisingly not as much as I initially thought after I finished writing this.)
Who knows how it would affect the Red Lantern corp but let's just assume someone steps in filling in for Razor but is like all the other Red Lantern's instead of conflicted.
Without Razor around they wouldn't have stormed the space fortress and acquired the Red Lantern's plans and current strength levels.
Without Razer it is highly unlikely they would've gone to that Spider prison where Aya found out that Green Lantern archeologist was detained. The only way for that to happen is if they capture the person who replaces Razer.
Without Razer Kilowag had an even higher chance of dying on one occasion. Even if he didn't...
Without Razer they would've lost Aya during the invasion of Oa.
Without Aya the Anti-monitor would be wrecking even more of the galaxy before it is stopped...if it can be stopped.
Who knows how it would affect the Red Lantern corp but let's just assume someone steps in filling in for Razor but is like all the other Red Lantern's instead of conflicted.
Without Razor around they wouldn't have stormed the space fortress and acquired the Red Lantern's plans and current strength levels.
Without Razer it is highly unlikely they would've gone to that Spider prison where Aya found out that Green Lantern archeologist was detained. The only way for that to happen is if they capture the person who replaces Razer.
Without Razer Kilowag had an even higher chance of dying on one occasion. Even if he didn't...
Without Razer they would've lost Aya during the invasion of Oa.
Without Aya the Anti-monitor would be wrecking even more of the galaxy before it is stopped...if it can be stopped.
So yeah not only would that move be the equivalent of signing your own death warrant, that contract would have a clause to screw over at least an entire galaxy, if not the universe.
I'm someone who enjoys a good love plot but I can fully understand why some people aren't digging this storyline.
I started watching this show with season 2 first and over this weekend I got around to watching season 1 and overall it is definitely superior to this season. How they are putting things together in this Anti-monitor in Aya-Monitor arc just doesn't flow as well as the Red Lantern Corp did.
Choppasmith
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Yeah especially since he's been back and forth with his feelings since the end of Season 1. I do admit, this last arc has dragged quite a bit, I'm itching for a conclusion already (despite knowing the show is about to end)
Yeah, that was messed up. Wonder where they go now, though.
Razgriz-Specter
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Found these today.
Just makes me angry and reminds me how incompetent the higher ups are all the way around.
Just makes me angry and reminds me how incompetent the higher ups are all the way around.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
what the hell are those?!
Those aren't final I would presume (or so I would hope), though Atrocitus is a little difficult to make out :-D
Razgriz-Specter
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Prototypes for figures of the series they never even attempted to release.
They went through all the trouble to develop them only to say they would not support the series right before it came out.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Ah, for a moment I thought it was the toys themselves.
Man, fuck this industry.
Damn what an incredible ending! Really hurts that there won't be a continuation, especially with the cliffhanger thatRazor will become a Blue Lantern.
The feels man.
I don't know that it was a cliffhanger as much as a symbol of Razor's hope.
Found these today.
Just makes me angry and reminds me how incompetent the higher ups are all the way around.
I wouldn't say they were incompetent, from what was said before it seemed like stores actively refused to stock any more Green Lantern merchandise. Maybe they could have done a DC Direct toy line, but that probably wouldn't have brought in amount of merchandising dollars that the show needed to keep going.
awilliams213
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Sad it's over happy we got an ending.
I liked the ending. I feel like "redemption + sacrifice" for Aya was put together a bit hastily, but the bit with Razer flying off and roaming the universe, presumably as a Blue Lantern, really fits. The show started with him, so showing how his relationship with Hal and Kilowog, and the universe in general, changed was the best ending possible, I think.
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
All those feels.... man CN messed up. If there next shows fail I would be far from mad
Panthalassic
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What a great ending. I'm sad that it's over but it ended well.
Also I pretty much cried for the whole half hour.
Also I pretty much cried for the whole half hour.
Razgriz-Specter
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Like I have said before, even if the movie was worse
if Mattel's toys were remotely comparative to Hasbro's they would have done fine
instead they sell McDonald's toys at deluxe prices(Infinite Heroes, Young Justice, TDKR, GL,and now Superman).
Great ending, now im even more upset.
If you've read The Blackest Night, you would now how Aya would've been brought back.
She would become a Black Lantern, and in the end Razor probably would've become the first White Lantern, ending the Black Lantern threat and bring back Aya.
Infinite Justice
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If the Black Lantern tease they had actually came through it could have been possible
The Big Pull podcast with Giancarlo Volpe
http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Big-Pull-Podcast/342344515776751
He talks about Green Lanterns doom.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Big-Pull-Podcast/342344515776751
He talks about Green Lanterns doom.
Rafa=FedKilla
Banned
Somebody provide or transcript or overview please. Podcasts are the devil.
I wasn't able to download over network yesterday. Listening right now.
EDIT: It was really great. He talk about stuff we already knew, show died from lack of toy sales yada yada. He explained the reason why the Anti monitor's origin was simplified. 1) to make easy enough for a 12 year old to understand. 2) The show budget only allowed for a very limited number of characters ( he noted the absence of Dex-Starr and other corp members) so the Monitor and the multiverse bits weren't included. Volpe also expressed appreciation of fan support.
EDIT: It was really great. He talk about stuff we already knew, show died from lack of toy sales yada yada. He explained the reason why the Anti monitor's origin was simplified. 1) to make easy enough for a 12 year old to understand. 2) The show budget only allowed for a very limited number of characters ( he noted the absence of Dex-Starr and other corp members) so the Monitor and the multiverse bits weren't included. Volpe also expressed appreciation of fan support.
Don't blame DC. They have very little to do with what goes on at WB Animation.
This isn't even WB Animation's fault, since they tried their best with these shows.
At fault is WB Entertainment, for releasing a poor movie that poisoned the GL franchise for years to come, which directly led to poor sales of Mattel's movie toyline.
At fault is Cartoon Network, who has gone out of their way to mess with the ratings of non-CN shows.
Mattel is also at fault, because they have a hard time selling shitastic toys that even kids don't want.
This is basically a completed toy. The only thing missing is paint.
Mattel has been producing toys of this quality for over a decade, yet regardless of how poorly they've sold, they still can't learn from their failures. Mattel is directly responsible for Young Justice being canceled, because of their failed YJ toylines.
Also, I'm not really going to miss this show. While it was a fun series, i'd like to see better efforts from WB Animation. Hopefully that rumored Justice League series turns out to be real. Or maybe a Plastic Man series, which was killed off for whatever reason.
Rafa=FedKilla
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Mattel and CN are 100 percent at fault here.
Im so angry right now, I still cant believe that there wont be more GLTAS, this show was awesome in so many aspects that it will be hard to find or make something similar. I hate CN for not giving it a second chance.
I liked the ending and Im not going to lie I started to tear up a little when
, but I always knew that something like that would happen to Aya or Razer because they were created specifically for this show, so they could do whatever they wanted with them.
The only thing that I would change is Razer
Now I'll just look forward to Mr. Volpe's next project, I read that there is a possibility of a new DC one, right?
I liked the ending and Im not going to lie I started to tear up a little when
Aya died
The only thing that I would change is Razer
leaving to find Aya, he should accept the reality and instead I dont know, try to help rebuild his planet or something?
Sometimes I see the Blue Lanterns as a bunch of deluded people so it was fitting that they implied that Razer became one. Aya was part machine and part living being, without the machine part the living part just died.
Sometimes I see the Blue Lanterns as a bunch of deluded people so it was fitting that they implied that Razer became one. Aya was part machine and part living being, without the machine part the living part just died.
Now I'll just look forward to Mr. Volpe's next project, I read that there is a possibility of a new DC one, right?
Parallax
best seen in the classic "Shadow of the Beast"
Don't blame DC. They have very little to do with what goes on at WB Animation.
This isn't even WB Animation's fault, since they tried their best with these shows.
At fault is WB Entertainment, for releasing a poor movie that poisoned the GL franchise for years to come, which directly led to poor sales of Mattel's movie toyline.
At fault is Cartoon Network, who has gone out of their way to mess with the ratings of non-CN shows.
Mattel is also at fault, because they have a hard time selling shitastic toys that even kids don't want.
This is basically a completed toy. The only thing missing is paint.
Mattel has been producing toys of this quality for over a decade, yet regardless of how poorly they've sold, they still can't learn from their failures. Mattel is directly responsible for Young Justice being canceled, because of their failed YJ toylines.
Also, I'm not really going to miss this show. While it was a fun series, i'd like to see better efforts from WB Animation. Hopefully that rumored Justice League series turns out to be real. Or maybe a Plastic Man series, which was killed off for whatever reason.
and yet, theyre still breaking bread with them, and cancelling shows on sheer basis of poor toy sales. someone needs to take responsibility for this if thats the case.
Rafa=FedKilla
Banned
They aren't going to take responsibility for it brah. I fear for Beware The Batmans toy line if it indeed comes to fruition.
SpeedySwaf
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One thing this series has done for me is make me want to check out other GL stuff. Got a lot of stuff to check out from the library the next few weeks.
Parallax
best seen in the classic "Shadow of the Beast"
why stop there? all show are fucked regardless of viewership or quality based solely on poor or nonexistant toy sales. if the toy sales are going to damn a show, why even bother giving a damn in the first place?
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