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Grooming gangs across the country are repeating the horrific abuse exposed in Rotherham, Rochdale, Oxford and most recently Newcastle, victims and investigators have warned.

There are mounting calls for nationwide action to combat sexual exploitation, with authorities accused of playing catch-up after ignoring victims ”for decades and decades".

Sammy Woodhouse, who was abused as a teenager by the Rotherham ringleader Arshid ”Mad Ash" Hussain and has waived her right to anonymity, said abuse was underway ”all over the country".

”Some are saying they have been to the police and didn't get taken seriously, others are getting support.

”But I think the Government is still trying to play this down and make out it's not a major issue – they are not doing enough."

Her calls for action came as figures show that in Bradford 1,153 referrals were made to its child sexual exploitation team in 2016/17 – a 62 per cent increase on the year before.

Bradford Metropolitan District Council's specialist hub launched interventions for 861 children – including many who were referred more than once. The vast majority of possible victims are girls.

Ms Woodhouse said she had also noted a growing number of grooming victims contacting her who were from the city.

Authorities behind an investigation that identified more than 700 women and girls as potential victims of sexual exploitation in North East England believe the abuse is happening far beyond areas where perpetrators have been caught.

Meanwhile, West Yorkshire Police is running a dedicated investigation, Operation Dalesway, with 66 suspects arrested so far, 10 charged and eight ongoing investigations.

Assistant chief constable Catherine Hankinson said child sexual exploitation was a ”top priority" and proactive work was ongoing to identify those at risk.

More @ https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...en-bradford-rotherham-newcastle-a7987381.html

Looks like Bradford is going to be next in line for a scandal in the UK for something not spoken about enough. Child/teenager girl rape/trafficking. Add it to Rotherham, Rochdale, Newcastle, Telford, Aylesbury, Derby, Oxford, Halifax, Peterborough, Banbury, Bristol, Keighley and who knows how many others?

Bradford has came up before

Fifteen men who "systematically" groomed and sexually abused teenage girls in Halifax have been jailed.

They were convicted of child sex offences including rape, grooming and trafficking during three separate trials at Leeds Crown Court.

Prosecutors praised the "immense courage and bravery" of the two victims who gave evidence against the men.

The longest sentence passed was 25 years in what was described as a "complex and lengthy operation".

The gang of men abused a young girl in Halifax and Bradford between 2009 and 2011, the Crown Prosecution (CPS) said.

Another victim was also sexually assaulted by one of the gang members.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-36559092

 

[Trickster]

Disgusting as fuck

 

[Mr Swine]

Disgusting and very disturbing that they didn’t even do anything

 

[slider]

Fucking hell. I hope that the victims aren't just from poor families. Not that there's a positive to find here, but I'd hate to think of another instance where, apparently, poor people don't matter.

I don't know why I'm having such a weird take on this. Here's to hoping for justice and change.

 

[jelly]

Wtf. How how this gone under the radar. Police cuts? Racial fallout? Establishment in on it ?

 

[Breakage]

This is horrific. Feels as if the desire to not harm community relations is of greater importance than the desire to protect young girls.

 

[Audioboxer]

Fucking hell. I hope that the victims aren't just from poor families. Not that there's a positive to find here, but I'd hate to think of another instance where, apparently, poor people don't matter.

I don't know why I'm having such a weird take on this. Here's to hoping for justice and change.

I had a debate with another GAFer in a Newcastle grooming topic (Operation Sanctuary) about the whole thing, but they ultimately did make some reasonable points about many of the girls "coming from council estates". Highlighting, yes, many times the poor or vulnerable do get ignored/not taken seriously. Which is appalling, unacceptable and tragic. A complete failing of the police and councils hence why soo many of these grooming gangs end up in "scandals" with politicians/police resigning.

That topic only made it to two pages on GAF (Newcastle), most of which were me and that poster debating. The UK has some serious issues on-going with grooming gangs that many seem to be ignoring/turning their head away from.

I've said a few times on GAF, but if those on the left/liberal side of politics ignore hard realities, those on the right swoop in and fill the void of discussion. I need not point it out how often Tommy Robinson talks about grooming gangs, but if you want a stupid amount of evidence something is an issue you don't run away because someone like Tommy is shouting about it, you look at the victims and amounts of arrests. Ignore anyone on the right spewing whatever it is they are (or challenge them), and focus on the facts.

 

[Tacitus_]

Wtf. How how this gone under the radar. Police cuts? Racial fallout? Establishment in on it ?

The failure to address the abuse was attributed to a combination of factors revolving around race, class and gender—contemptuous and sexist attitudes toward the mostly working-class victims; fear that the perpetrators' ethnicity would trigger allegations of racism and damage community relations; the Labour council's reluctance to challenge a Labour-voting ethnic minority; lack of a child-centred focus; a desire to protect the town's reputation; and lack of training and resources.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploitation_scandal

Such a colossal fuckup that it reads like a propaganda piece.

 

[ClosingADoor]

1,153 cases in a town of not even 300.000 people? What the hell at those numbers. Something is seriously broken that this is continuing like this for years in the UK.

 

[Maximo]

What the fuck is going on.

 

[Breakage]

The "difficult conversations" that need to happen won't happen. I don't see this getting any better. I think all but two of the Rochdale gang are free now - it makes you wonder what the sick bastards are up to.

 

[Audioboxer]

1,153 cases in a town of not even 300.000 people? What the hell at those numbers. Something is seriously broken that this is continuing like this for years in the UK.

Her calls for action came as figures show that in Bradford 1,153 referrals were made to its child sexual exploitation team in 2016/17

That's in one year. From a previous year that was still reasonably high, although 62% is a hell of a spike.

a 62 per cent increase on the year before.

The "difficult conversations" that need to happen won't happen. I don't see this getting any better. I think all but two of the Rochdale gang are free now - it makes you wonder what the sick bastards are up to.

Rochdale had some long sentences

The trial concluded in May 2012 with the nine convictions. Shabir Ahmed received the longest sentence, 19 years for rape, aiding and abetting a rape, sexual assault, trafficking for sexual exploitation and conspiracy to engage in sexual activity with children.[17] Mohammed Sajid was sentenced to 12 years for rape, sexual activity with a girl under 16, trafficking for sexual exploitation and conspiracy to engage in sexual activity with children. Kabeer Hassan was sentenced to nine years for rape and conspiracy to engage in sexual activity with children. Abdul Aziz received a similar sentence nine years (concurrently) for trafficking for sexual exploitation and conspiracy to engage in sexual activity with children. Abdul Rauf was sentenced to six years for trafficking for sexual exploitation and conspiracy to engage in sexual activity with children. Adil Khan was sentenced to eight years for the same offences. Mohammed Amin received a five-year sentence for sexual assault and conspiracy to engage in sexual activity with children. Another five-year sentence was given to Abdul Qayyum for conspiracy to engage in sexual activity with children while Hamid Safi received four years for trafficking for sexual exploitation and conspiracy to engage in sexual activity with children.

Although it seems some will now be out. Some citizenships were revoked though

Four of the convicted Shabir Ahmed, Adil Khan, Abdul Rauf and Abdul Aziz who had dual British and Pakistani citizenships had their British citizenships revoked by then[when?] Home Secretary Theresa May in order for them to be deported to Pakistan. May stated the revocations were ”conducive to the public good".[18]

 

[CadetMahoney]

police still treating this with kid gloves?

gdamn.

 

[MistakenMobius]

police still treating this with kid gloves?

gdamn.

Well they don’t want to be seen as racist.

 

[jiiikoo]

1,153 cases in a town of not even 300.000 people? What the hell at those numbers. Something is seriously broken that this is continuing like this for years in the UK.

How the fuck is that even possible? And what's more shocking is that nothing has been done Wtf.

 

[Audioboxer]

How the fuck is that even possible? And what's more shocking is that nothing has been done Wtf.

Bradford Metropolitan District Council's specialist hub launched interventions for 861 children – including many who were referred more than once. The vast majority of possible victims are girls.

Meanwhile, West Yorkshire Police is running a dedicated investigation, Operation Dalesway, with 66 suspects arrested so far, 10 charged and eight ongoing investigations.

They're doing something now, but like in most of these scandals years of abuse goes on without enough action before it boils over.

The Government with the usual "we care" PR

A Home Office spokesperson said: ”This Government has done more than any other to tackle child sexual exploitation, declaring it a national threat and investing millions of pounds to enable officers to actively seek out and bring offenders to justice. This has led to a huge increase in police activity and a marked rise in prosecutions and convictions.

”We are continuing the urgent work of overhauling how our police, social services and other agencies work together to protect vulnerable children, especially from the kind of organised grooming and sexual exploitation that has come to light in towns and cities across the UK.

”The Tackling Child Sexual Exploitation: Progress Report, published in February 2017, details our delivery of the ambitious programme of work we set out in the original 2015 report, and signals a step change in our national response to sexual violence against children and young people."

Retroactively, maybe. Let's not forget how many terms the Conservatives have been in charge now. Labour isn't blameless either, being somewhat at the centre of Rotherham (Labour council). Obviously, the police are really at fault the most, ignoring victims and not going after offenders, irrespective of the UK led Government political party of the time.

 

[Oberon]

Well they don’t want to be seen as racist.

It's amazing that people always choose the wrong time to care/not care about if they seem racist or not.

 

[Jezbollah]

Well they don’t want to be seen as racist.

And that is the crux of the issue.

This has been going far too long and to far too many for such things to be seen to get in the way. Something has to be done, for fucks sake.

 

[Rmagnus]

Wasn't the footballer guy Adam Johnson trying it at Sunderland or something? Everything seems so shady

 

[Veins]

What an absolutely disgusting timeline of events. Those who failed to take on board valid evidence need to be charged.

 

[Real Hero]

Wtf. How how this gone under the radar. Police cuts? Racial fallout? Establishment in on it ?

boils to to race/religion unfortunately. It's a problem with a specific community so saying so makes you easily dismissed as a racist. There's also obviously actually racists who use this stuff to paint everyone in these communities with the same brush so that makes it even harder to tackle

 

[Budi]

Terrible, this world is twisted.

 

[Audioboxer]

Wasn't the footballer guy Adam Johnson trying it at Sunderland or something? Everything seems so shady

He's an individual rather than part of an organised gang, but yes his crimes were child exploitation/grooming.

In March 2015, Johnson was arrested and charged over sexual activity with a 15-year-old girl, with England's age of consent being 16. Johnson continued to play for Sunderland during his bail. The following February, he pleaded guilty to two charges against him, the other being one of child grooming,[4] and was subsequently sacked by Sunderland. In March 2016, Johnson was found guilty of sexual activity with a child and sentenced to six years in prison.[3]

 

[Typical]

One reason why grooming cases are on the increase unfortunately is due to financial incentives. You have relatative poor teens from council estates using this as a opportunity to make a few thousand pounds via compensation which is quite a sum of money given their age and background.

I've seen this openly discussed by young girls and practiced by atleast a pair of teens if I remember correctly who were from Keightley.

The young teens are usually already sexually active and into social drink and drugs (usually weed) at a young age, basically if you have to call it something chavs.

Obviously that's just a single angle on why you may see a increase. Just my own personal experience.

 

[LinLeigh]

Well they don’t want to be seen as racist.

Is that really it though? It is an easy maybe even pleasant conclusion but the UK seems to have issues with taking sexual assault serious.

From the BBC to sport organisations to churches to Rotherham the main take away always seems to be that many people turn a blind eye.

And when police gets involved it isn't really acted upon until the media gets involved.

 

[Daffy Duck]

Disgraceful, and deplorable that nothing is being done.

 

[Real Hero]

The young teens are usually already sexually active and into social drink and drugs (usually weed) at a young age, basically if you have to call it something chavs.
.

The rhetoric of 'chavs' in relation to working class kids is one of the reasons people don't give a shit about this stuff and can easily dismiss it

 

[Breakage]

Although it seems some will now be out. Some citizenships were revoked though

Yeah, I read they're getting legal aid to fight their deportations. I think one them even suggested that the jury was racist.

It's chilling how little collective outrage there is over this. I mean 700,000 people in this country can swiftly demonstrate their outrage to save Uber and yet large-scale child abuse only seems to make the far right angry.

 

[Audioboxer]

One reason why grooming cases are on the increase unfortunately is due to financial incentives. You have relatative poor teens from council estates using this as a opportunity to make a few thousand pounds via compensation which is quite a sum of money given their age and background.

”It's an issue for every town and city, more people are being failed," she told The Independent. ”I'm hearing a lot of new complaints from survivors.

”Some are saying they have been to the police and didn't get taken seriously, others are getting support.

”But I think the Government is still trying to play this down and make out it's not a major issue – they are not doing enough."

Dame Vera Baird, chair of the Association of Police and Crime Commissioners (APCC), also fears grooming is taking place nationwide.

But yes, lets just fire up conspiracy theories around victim blaming. Just ignore all the convictions, jail sentences, investigatory work, apologies from police/councils/Government and more.

Yeah, I read they're getting legal aid to fight their deportations. I think one them even suggested that the jury was racist.

It's chilling how little collective outrage there is over this. I mean 700,000 people in this country can swiftly demonstrate their outrage to save Uber and yet large-scale child abuse only seems to make the far right angry.

I'm pretty certain they lost their appeal anyway

Four members of a child grooming gang are facing deportation to Pakistan after losing a legal appeal against their British citizenship being revoked.

The men, who preyed on teenage girls in Rochdale by plying them with drink and drugs before they were ”passed around" for sex, could be removed from the UK permanently.

Shabir Ahmed, Adil Khan, Abdul Rauf and Abdul Aziz, all from Rochdale, had their cases dismissed on all grounds by immigration judges.

Ahmed previously took his case to the European court of human rights (ECHR) claiming that his all-white jury was biased, in breach of article 6 of the European convention on human rights which guarantees a fair trial.

Judges in Strasbourg unanimously threw out his case, finding there was ”simply no proof" jurors acted improperly.

McCloskey, Britain's most senior immigration judge, has previously criticised the men's solicitors, the Nottingham-based firm Burton and Burton, for ”frankly shameful" behaviour, saying they had failed to submit the necessary papers to the court and had repeatedly asked for adjournments.

He said at an immigration tribunal: ”The conduct of these appeals has been cavalier and unprofessional. The rule of law has been weakened in consequence."

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...le-grooming-gang-face-deportation-to-pakistan

 

[Wrestlemania]

It's a pity people salivate over the opportunity to point fingers at the who they claim are unwilling to have the "difficult discussions" over the race element of this, while ignoring that the class and poverty issues that contribute to the ease at which these can go unnoticed and is something that the left has been having "difficult discussions" about for years.

 

[RenditMan]

It's a pity people salivate over the opportunity to point fingers at the who they claim are unwilling to have the "difficult discussions" over the race element of this, while ignoring that the class and poverty issues that contribute to the ease at which these can go unnoticed and is something that the left has been having "difficult discussions" about for years.

Could you explain the mental gymnastics around peado rape occuring because of money please?

 

[Septy]

Could you explain the mental gymnastics around peado rape occuring because of money please?

The victims are typically targetted because they are from the underclass and are less likely to be believed.

During the heyday of celebrity paedo stuff with people like Jimmy Saville, they targeted girls and boys that were in instititions. They rightly suspected that they were less likely to speak out or be believed.

 

[Boss Mog]

A female Labour MP who spoke out about the issue was fired while another female Labour MP who liked and retweeted a tweet saying that the abused girls need to shut their mouths for the sake of diversity didn't lose her job. The tweet was meant as sarcasm but the MP took it seriously and truly believes its message.

They'll never be any progress on this issue as long as "diversity" takes precedence over human decency.

 

[Breakage]

I'm pretty certain they lost their appeal anyway





https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...le-grooming-gang-face-deportation-to-pakistan

Oh, I didn't know that. I hope they are actually deported. It really looks as if they are just a drop in the ocean though.

 

[Audioboxer]

The victims are typically targetted because they are from the underclass and are less likely to be believed.

During the heyday of celebrity paedo stuff with people like Jimmy Saville, they targeted girls and boys that were in instititions. They rightly suspected that they were less likely to speak out or be believed.

This is true, it was part of the Rotherham report. They went after those who were in care homes too (parentless/away from home because of other abuse or issues).

It was also part of the Rotherham report how ethnicity was an issue/fear. Both things can be true without people trying to score political points. Ultimately, look at what is true for public discourse around these current grooming gang scandals. It is mostly the right shouting about it. For their own gains, sure, but as I said above people on the left do the victims a disservice being quiet about it for fear of being accused of being part of the right/insensitive to minorities. It also creates the void in public discourse where the right get to shout about how they're the only ones who care/talk about it, while the left do nothing. That damages the perception of this side. It allows more of the public to become sympathetic to "snake oil" political pandering from the far right.

In the field of criminology, you do not shy away from realities around statistics. You deal with what the facts are and try to ethically pursue justice.

Demographics of the UK

The Jay report into failings in Rotherham says: ”By far the majority of perpetrators were described as Asian by victims, yet throughout the entire period, councillors did not engage directly with the Pakistani-heritage community to discuss how best they could jointly address the issue.

”Some councillors seemed to think it was a one-off problem, which they hoped would go away. Several staff described their nervousness about identifying the ethnic origins of perpetrators for fear of being thought racist; others remembered clear direction from their managers not to do so."

Ceop data about the ethnicity of offenders and suspects identified by those 31 police forces in 2012 is incomplete.

The unit says: ”All ethnicities were represented in the sample. However, a disproportionate number of offenders were reported as Asian."

Of 52 groups where ethnicity data was provided, 26 (50 per cent) comprised all Asian offenders, 11 (21 per cent) were all white, 9 (17 per cent) groups had offenders from multiple ethnicities, 4 (8 per cent) were all black offenders and there were 2 (4 per cent) exclusively Arab groups.

Of the 306 offenders whose ethnicity was noted, 75 per cent were categorised as Asian, 17 per cent white, and the remaining 8 per cent black (5 per cent) or Arab (3 per cent).

https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-grooming-gangs

The failure to address the abuse was attributed to a combination of factors revolving around race, class and gender—contemptuous and sexist attitudes toward the mostly working-class victims; fear that the perpetrators' ethnicity would trigger allegations of racism and damage community relations; the Labour council's reluctance to challenge a Labour-voting ethnic minority; lack of a child-centred focus; a desire to protect the town's reputation; and lack of training and resources.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploitation_scandal

Councillors and council staff in particular were criticised for "avoiding public discussion"; some through fear of being thought racist, and some through "wholesale denial" of the problem.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-28951612

Inspectors also found there had been a widespread reluctance among officials to address the problem for fear of being labelled racist, something which the report said had helped fuel the rise of the far-right in the area.

Ms Casey wrote: ”The issue of race is contentious, with staff and members lacking the confidence to tackle difficult issues for fear of being seen as racist or upsetting community cohesion.

”By failing to take action against the Pakistani heritage male perpetrators of CSE in the borough, the Council has inadvertently fuelled the far right and allowed racial tensions to grow, it has done a great disservice to the Pakistani heritage community and the good people of Rotherham as a result.

”This has allowed perpetrators to remain at large, has let victims down, and perversely, has allowed the far right to try and exploit the situation. These may have been unintended consequences but the impact remains the same and reaches into the present day."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...buse-scandal-council-not-fit-for-purpose.html

http://www.rotherham.gov.uk/downloads/file/1407/independent_inquiry_cse_in_rotherham

The police are under investigation for ignoring victims as well

'The complaints contain more than 100 allegations against 42 named police officers, both retired and serving, as well as a number of allegations against officers whose identities are currently unknown.'

The complaints followed on from the Jay Report, which described how at least 1,400 children were raped, trafficked and groomed in the South Yorkshire town between 1997 and 2013.

The IPCC statement said: 'Work to establish the identity of the unknown officers and to identify any links between the different complaints and incidents is ongoing.

'The allegations range from neglect of duty by failing to adequately investigate on the basis of intelligence or to deal with incidents appropriately, inappropriate comments and suggestions of corrupt relationships between police officers and offenders.'

The commission said it was also investigating an allegation that South Yorkshire Police failed to act on information passed to them in 2004 and 2006 about alleged child abuse in nearby Sheffield.

This complaint relates to two named police officers who are now retired from the police service, the IPCC said.

"Further assessments are being carried out to establish the specific allegations against these individuals to determine what further actions are needed.

"Work is ongoing to identify more than 100 officers who are referenced in the referrals but are unnamed."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-34059617

Of course, as usual, many police will get away with negligence/inaction.

 

[El Topo]

What in the world is going on in the UK?

 

[RenditMan]

The victims are typically targetted because they are from the underclass and are less likely to be believed.

During the heyday of celebrity paedo stuff with people like Jimmy Saville, they targeted girls and boys that were in instititions. They rightly suspected that they were less likely to speak out or be believed.

Right, so if everyone had a few quid peados wouldn't peado?

I'm not seeing it personally.

What in the world is going on in the UK?

Everyone's skint or something, I dunno anymore.

 

[Real Hero]

Could you explain the mental gymnastics around peado rape occuring because of money please?

Institutions and wealthy people can get away with things and easily cover things up

 

[jipewithin]

Holy shit this is still going on? Made me sick reading about this in what, I think 2012? And still going on?

I can't believe this.

Trying to cover and being silent about this stuff feeds right in to the far/alt right.

 

[Oberon]

Isn't it generally perceived by many people that being called racist is worse than actually being racist?

 

[KJRS_1993]

It's terrible and sad that nobody is willing to acknowledge how much more common this is in certain communities - pretending a link doesn't even exist, (even if it's just coincidental) causes a lot more damage to relationships with these communities in the long term. It's not unfair and irrational to suggest some questions about attitudes need to be asked when children are being hurt and exploited.

Even I'm talking rhetorically around the subject (badly) rather than being explicit for fear of being incorrectly labelled. Am I part of the problem?

 

[Audioboxer]

Institutions and wealthy people can get away with things and easily cover things up

Correct for the likes of Jimmy Saville/the BBC doing nothing about the accusations around him.

Not quite the same for these grooming gangs led by average citizens. Most probably working-class themselves. I do not think there are many high-status males involved in these gangs (men from positions of high power/wealth). Would the police/councils fear racism if some of these gangs were predominantly white men?

Catholic priests are usually the first on the chopping block, publicly, for their scandals around paedophilia, abusing children, and the Catholic Church/Vatican covering things up/trying to stop their priests going to jail. Some find it far more comfortable to go into discussions on priests and let loose. All you need to do is take some example topics on GAF for what will see more traffic than others. This topic we're in just now, with systematic abuse/thousands of victims, or a topic about some asshole sexist/abusing YouTuber? I'd be surprised if this topic gets to page 3. No one is compelled to have to discuss anything, but the UK citizens on GAF are witnessing a serious issue across this country that does need more public discourse/attention. The police, Government and councils need to be held accountable for this. Public noise and pressure are how that is done. The UK Government cannot simply keep mounting up more wiki links of grooming scandals. They are ultimately the ones in charge of the councils/police/education and budgets.

Some of the police and Government officials who do not act also need to face prosecution. Abusing their positions of power and oaths to protect and serve the public. It's appalling and unacceptable and grovelling apologies on Twitter/national TV are not good enough.

No one with a sliver of personal decency should ever go into a topic around a minority/someone different than them and become racist as a response to injustice, but you should be able to talk about serious crimes without worrying about that being insensitive... to the horrible men committing atrocities. What do people care more about, victims, or trying to maintain their political points/progressivism by only going after the easy targets, such as Catholic priests? Or YouTubers? That kind of apathy and behaviour contributes to how we get multiple wiki links in my first post of child rape/grooming scandals in the first place. There should be zero tolerance for children/teenagers being raped/abused/trafficked, regardless of what the man/men behind it look like. Whether it is from positions of institution/wealth, or it's from gangs of men that not for the victim's fault, might end up being Asian. Every child/teenager is a son/daughter to some parents. Even if said parents have let those children down themselves. Or they're grandchildren to someone, or at the very least their friends of someone. Someone cares about nearly every one of these victims in some way. The victims and those that care are being let down.

 

[Cpt.Underpants]

jesus

reminds me of someone I worked with who thinks this is all a conspiracy

 

[DavidDesu]

Funny how the govt say they've done more than any other govt to tackle this issue when in reality they've slashed police numbers which has very real and detrimental effect when it comes to the basics of investigating these cases and so on. Especially when the numbers seem so vast.

Have they actually done anything concrete like set up and advertise centres or even call centres to deal specifically with such cases, so victims can see where they can get help discreetly (thinking blanket bus shelter advertising) as well as of course setting up dedicated teams for this in every police jurisdiction. Maybe they have done this but if not seems a good place to start at least.

 

[Saint of Killers]

This is horrific. Feels as if the desire to not harm community relations is of greater importance than the desire to protect young girls.

All the police care about is them not appearing to be racist and yet all they accomplish in being reluctant to do their fucking job is harm wider community relations between Asians and everyone else. (To say nothing of the harm it does within the already somewhat split Asian and Muslim community.)

Their was a BBC documentary on a while ago specially about what went down in Rotherham and the number of people who just ignored it is mind boggling. Police, local Asian community leaders, etc. Something needs to be done about people who know of specific incidents occurring and doing nothing to help.

BBC documentary The Betrayed Girls

 

[Betty]

Isn't it generally perceived by many people that being called racist is worse than actually being racist?

Yes.

And for the police and politicians, it's definitely better to let children be abused and sexually assaulted than to be perceived as racist.

I mean even using the banner of calling them 'asian' gangs is so sweeping and general that it's ridiculous, but we have to use it otherwise we'll offend people, and the last thing we want is to offend anyone.

Letting girls be groomed by pedophiles, oh that's okay.

To even be considered racist though, that just won't do.

 

[Rmagnus]

Isn't it generally perceived by many people that being called racist is worse than actually being racist?

Yup you should have seen the a hat in time thread.

 

[Septy]

Right, so if everyone had a few quid peados wouldn't peado?

I'm not seeing it personally.



Everyone's skint or something, I dunno anymore.

Um no. I meant that the poor and disadvantaged are the most vulnerable targets , so they are more likely to be preyed upon.

 

[Dynasty]

You would think the police/goverment would have there act together after the whole Rochdale thing. If this carries on it will drive further towards the extreme right and sk more people will vote for parties like UKIP, it will further divide race relations. As someone who was raised as a Muslim, I feel the community leaders and Mosques need to be actively fighting it as well especially when other avenues have failed. In the Rochdale scandal, some Mosque were told about the role of some of the people in the community who were apart of the grooming gangs and did nothing, said not my problem.

 

[Audioboxer]

All the police care about is them not appearing to be racist and yet all they accomplish in being reluctant to do their fucking job is harm wider community relations between Asians and everyone else. (To say nothing of the harm it does within the already somewhat split Asian and Muslim community.)

Their was a BBC documentary on a while ago specially about what went down in Rotherham and the number of people who just ignored it is mind boggling. Police, local Asian community leaders, etc. Something needs to be done about people who know of specific incidents occurring and doing nothing to help.

BBC documentary The Betrayed Girls

Thanks, I totally missed that this year. iPlayer link here, but it says currently unavailable

Documentary about the child abuse revelations in Rochdale and other towns. Featuring the harrowing testimony of the victims and the shocking truth from those who spoke out, this film reveals how it wasn't just the professionals whose job it was to protect the girls who ignored their plight, but others did as well.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08xdh9r

That YouTube quality is quite bad.