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[GigaBowser]

best GTA hands down gangster

best missions story characters girlfriends and you can swim go to gym get muscles hair do stealth shooting rolls

why have GTA not as good anymore?

 

[GymWolf]

The whole gangsta ghetto stuff didn't hooked me and i bailed out by half game tbh.

Gta3 or vice city are still the best old gta for me (especially 3).

Probably my least favourite rockstar game, and that include bully and manhunt.

 

[Three]

I think after San Andeas Rockstar leaned into creating set characters rather than the RPG-like elements it had in SA. They relegated that to online for GTA5.

 

[Radical Dreamer]

GTA 3 is underrated and best GTA.

 

[GymWolf]

I think after San Andeas Rockstar leaned into creating set characters rather than the RPG-like elements it had in SA.

Cj was a set character, just not as interesting as niko or tommy or arthur or john or others.

 

[Three]

Cj was a set character, just not as interesting as niko or tommy or arthur or john or others.

Yeah but you could make him fat by eating burgers, swoll by working out, give him an afro, blond mohawk etc. It had far more rpg-like elements. After that Niko, Franklin, Trevor, and Michael were far more set characters.

 

[BennyBlanco]

Yeah but you could make him fat by eating burgers, swoll by working out, give him an afro, blond mohawk etc. It had far more rpg-like elements. After that Niko, Franklin, Trevor, and Michael were far more set characters.

Going to the gym and learning boxing moves was hilarious. San Andreas rules.

 

[Guilty_AI]

GTA 2 >>> any other GTA

 

[GymWolf]

Yeah but you could make him fat by eating burgers, swoll by working out, give him an afro, blond mohawk etc. It had far more rpg-like elements. After that Niko, Franklin, Trevor, and Michael were far more set characters.

You can change his aspect but the character remain the same.

You can do the same with arthur and he is arguably the best character rockstar has ever written.

He was just dull and boring, this is why people remember him more like an avatar than a set character.

 

[N0S]

That's why I fucked yo b*tch you fat muthafucka

 

[Three]

You can change his aspect but the character remain the same.

Well yeah, but you choose more what the characters life is like, including choosing his girlfriend. In later games they got rid of that for more set characters and less RPG elements.

 

[Mattyp]

Wrong, it's Vice City.

 

[GymWolf]

Well yeah, but you choose more what the characters life is like, including choosing his girlfriend. In later games they got rid of that for more set characters and less RPG elements.

The writing doesn't change a bit so imo he still is a set character.

You can make arthur fat, she is still gonna have the same dialogue during missions and story bits, same for cj.

 

[Markio128]

It was probably my least favourite GTA tbh. Those things you see as positives I saw as negatives. I'm all for improving the environmental interactivity, rather than pissing around with the character - and the game seemed overly stretched out for me. I like my GTA's simple, but fun, like pretty much all of the others. Even GTAV was a bit on long side for my liking.

 

[Luck]

It's not.

 

[mansoor1980]

OP be like...............

game had a great story and ending

 

[Three]

You can make arthur fat, she is still gonna have the same dialogue during missions and story bits, same for cj.

I agree that Arthur is more fleshed out in RDR2. He has far better dialogue (SA is a PS2 game after all) and his facial features aren't 8 polygons but just like CJ he's a less set 'RPG-like' character than the likes of Niko or Trevor from more recent GTAs.

I would say that is the main difference between SA and the GTAs that followed. For whatever reason, for better or worse, they decided to move all those RPG elements outside of GTAs campaign and into its online. They did carry it on in RDR though.

 

[N0S]

OP be like...............

game had a great story and ending

Ain't nuttin but a gangsta party

 

[JimmyRustler]

Played this the first time in 2019 and even I would agree. Game totally blew me away. Loves how this starts out as the typical hood gangsta story and then gets crazier over time with hijacking airplanes and shit. Game's a masterpiece.

 

[ShakenG]

Enjoyed all of them growing up. Was the golden period for games and movies for me. Will never be topped.
I did however enjoy the Vice city theme a bit more, the lights, tropical water feel..music. the era in general.
But the map was absolute garbage in comparison to San Andreas. What a leap that was!!

GTAV will fix that for me i reckon. Gona be awesome.

 

[shamoomoo]

The whole gangsta ghetto stuff didn't hooked me and i bailed out by half game tbh.

Gta3 or vice city are still the best old gta for me (especially 3).

Probably my least favourite rockstar game, and that include bully and manhunt.

It literally is the same shit but from a different racial perspective.

 

[TheRedRiders]

Agreed. Best GTA hands down.

 

[AV]

Recently 100%'d each game's definitive edition and yeah, SA is the "best game" overall - VC is still my favourite though, and also by far the best game to 100% complete. SA has some insane bloat in there because at the time they were just throwing stuff at the wall to see what stuck.

 

[KaiserBecks]

Not sure if it's the best, but it's my favourite.

 

[GymWolf]

It literally is the same shit but from a different racial perspective.

No, it was not the same thing of gta3 and vice city.

I don't enjoy the whole ghetto/rapper/my nigga type of criminal stuff.

 

[drganon]

Certainly the one I played the most.

 

[shamoomoo]

No, it was not the same thing of gta3 and vice city.

I don't enjoy the whole ghetto/rapper/my nigga type of criminal stuff.

Lol? Claude was a bank robber and Tommy was a potential drug dealer.

I'm not sure what you mean by the highlighted stuff as CJ only interaction with Rap was MC Loc.

San Andreas interaction with the world was different as CJ was more grounded than the previous characters in GTA so family and friends has a different impact with regards to relationships that could be built. Basically,Claude and Tommy are too independent from all the story non-playable characters in each game.

 

[Hudo]

Woozie is still my favorite GTA character.

 

[Hudo]

Lol? Claude was a bank robber and Tommy was a potential drug dealer.

I'm not sure what you mean by the highlighted stuff as CJ only interaction with Rap was MC Loc.

San Andreas interaction with the world was different as CJ was more grounded than the previous characters in GTA so family and friends has a different impact with regards to relationships that could be built. Basically,Claude and Tommy are too independent from all the story non-playable characters in each game.

I think he meant the whole ghetto vibe that SA was going for with "the hood" and gangbanging and the like. I had trouble with that as well, since I am not American enough to "get it". I found it much easier to "get" Vice City. But now that I've visited the US a couple of times I can appreciate San Andreas and its setting and vibes.

 

[KaiserBecks]

I think he meant the whole ghetto vibe that SA was going for with "the hood" and gangbanging and the like. I had trouble with that as well, since I am not American enough to "get it". I found it much easier to "get" Vice City. But now that I've visited the US a couple of times I can appreciate San Andreas and its setting and vibes.

The whole "hood" thing is only represented for roughly a third of the game though. Once you leave the city with the mothership, you're introduced to a lot of diverse characters.

 

[Throttle]

In 2004 I thought GTA San Andreas was the pinnacle of gaming as a technology and art form. It was an absolute pleasure to experience it.

I hope they haven't given up on releasing a VR por for Quest, as that would make me buy one.

 

[Hudo]

The whole "hood" thing is only represented for roughly a third of the game though. Once you leave the city with the mothership, you're introduced to a lot of diverse characters.

True. That was also when I really started to like San Andreas. Every time I replayed it I would go as quickly as possible through the first act of the game. Nowdays I can also enjoy the first act.

 

[GymWolf]

I think he meant the whole ghetto vibe that SA was going for with "the hood" and gangbanging and the like. I had trouble with that as well, since I am not American enough to "get it". I found it much easier to "get" Vice City. But now that I've visited the US a couple of times I can appreciate San Andreas and its setting and vibes.

Exactly.

I always found that type of criminals and vibe super fucking cringe or i just don't get the "cool" part of it.

Cloud was a bank robber but you end up working with the italian mob and the asian mob, the vibe was completely different, same for vice city.

And it's not a black people thing, i cringe like a motherfucker every time i see a white dude with a sport jersey 3 times larger than his size, huge gold necklaces, backwards baseball cap etc.
Italians also have their cringe stuff like some goons going around with a fucking sweatpants, but it stop there.

I don't remember jack shit about san andres but since i always cringe at black ghetto rapper criminal vibe, that's probably why i didn't liked the game.
.
I visited the us aswell but i still find that shit cringe as hell.

 

[GymWolf]

The whole "hood" thing is only represented for roughly a third of the game though. Once you leave the city with the mothership, you're introduced to a lot of diverse characters.

Then maybe i abandoned the game before getting to the good part because the first part soured me on the game.

Maybe i'm gonna buy the collection when it's dirty cheap and give the game a second chance.

 

[shamoomoo]

I think he meant the whole ghetto vibe that SA was going for with "the hood" and gangbanging and the like. I had trouble with that as well, since I am not American enough to "get it". I found it much easier to "get" Vice City. But now that I've visited the US a couple of times I can appreciate San Andreas and its setting and vibes.

Huh? How is that different from Claude and Tommy Vercetti? Being mobbed up is gangbanging.

Claude isn't an assassin, he's a bank robber turned into whatever criminal the game wants.

Tommy Vercetti has mob ties and is into drug dealing. Just because both characters aren't hillbillies doesn't remove them from CJ in anyway.

 

[GymWolf]

Huh? How is that different from Claude and Tommy Vercetti? Being mobbed up is gangbanging.

Claude isn't an assassin, he's a bank robber turned into whatever criminal the game wants.

Tommy Vercetti has mob ties and is into drug dealing. Just because both characters aren't hillbillies doesn't remove them from CJ in anyway.

Just for the record, Cj wasn't an hillbillie neither, that would be trevor in gta5 if my understanding of the word hill billie is correct.

(or at least trevor was the closest thing to an hill billie, i think even michael call him hill billie)

 

[Bert Big Balls]

Definitely my favourite GTA. I remember getting it just after it released, I was 14 years old and it just blew me away. The amount of stuff you could do was insane.

 

[Laptop1991]

Yeah, 100 percent agree, still the goat of GTA games, i loved it, GTA 4 wasn't as good for me and lost the fun factor of SA until the dlc's came out.

 

[ReBurn]

I really liked it except for having to constantly either save or eat. It felt like it made exploration and secret hunting more tedious than it needed to be.

 

[Hudo]

Huh? How is that different from Claude and Tommy Vercetti? Being mobbed up is gangbanging.

Claude isn't an assassin, he's a bank robber turned into whatever criminal the game wants.

Tommy Vercetti has mob ties and is into drug dealing. Just because both characters aren't hillbillies doesn't remove them from CJ in anyway.

I mean there are completely different vibes going on in (at least the first act of) San Andreas vs. Vice City vs. GTA3. Of course CJ, Claude and Tommy are gangsters. But Claude and Tommy aren't "gangbangers in the hood" for some "crew". They speak differently, behave themselves differently, dress themselves differently and are generally less concerned with some sort of hood or gang.

Or are you trying to say that, for example, the Italian mobsters in Chicago are the same as the Cribs and Bloods in California in terms of general behavior, tone and etiquette? I want to stress that I am not saying that one is superior over the other or something. Just that I had trouble "getting it" when it came to the whole L.A. ghetto gangbanging culture as you'd see with the Bloods or Cribs, which inspired the gangbanging culture depicted in Los Santos in San Andreas.

 

[Duchess]

I did rather rate Samuel L Jackson's performance as Frank Tenpenny. He made for a great bent cop, and I very much enjoyed killing him at the end.

 

[Chuck Berry]

I definitely think its the most impressive of the franchise in terms of its casting. Riding on the wave of celebrities they got for Vice City they really went all out with San Andreas.

Samuel L Jackson
Chris Penn
James Woods
Peter Fonda
Ice T
Clifton Collins Jr
David Cross
Frank Vincent
etc.

 

[shamoomoo]

I mean there are completely different vibes going on in (at least the first act of) San Andreas vs. Vice City vs. GTA3. Of course CJ, Claude and Tommy are gangsters. But Claude and Tommy aren't "gangbangers in the hood" for some "crew". They speak differently, behave themselves differently, dress themselves differently and are generally less concerned with some sort of hood or gang.

Or are you trying to say that, for example, the Italian mobsters in Chicago are the same as the Cribs and Bloods in California in terms of general behavior, tone and etiquette? I want to stress that I am not saying that one is superior over the other or something. Just that I had trouble "getting it" when it came to the whole L.A. ghetto gangbanging culture as you'd see with the Bloods or Cribs, which inspired the gangbanging culture depicted in Los Santos in San Andreas.

That's surface level nonsense,those differences stem from how each group are organized and how race/ethnicity affects each character take on crime.


Claude is an outlier in the contemporary GTA games as he very few connections outside of his girlfriend.


Tommy and CJ are more similar to each other than Claude. Heck,I would say Tommy and CJ are closer to each other than the later characters in the series.

 

[fart town usa]

Agreed.

 

[amigastar]

GTA 2 >>> any other GTA

For me GTA Chinatown Wars takes the crown in top view GTA's.

 

[MarkMe2525]

I don't agree, the tacked on RPG Lite mechanics are more of an annoyance than something that is fun to engage with. I do like the map and CJ is a good protagonist, but I think Niko is goat.

 

[nkarafo]

Didn't like the hood characters.

Also, too many things to keep track of.

 

[AJUMP23]

Not that great. Only one I did not finish.

 

[EverydayBeast]

 

[Hudo]

That's surface level nonsense,those differences stem from how each group are organized and how race/ethnicity affects each character take on crime.


Claude is an outlier in the contemporary GTA games as he very few connections outside of his girlfriend.


Tommy and CJ are more similar to each other than Claude. Heck,I would say Tommy and CJ are closer to each other than the later characters in the series.

So, for you then the settings and characters of San Andreas, Vice City and GTA3 are the same? Well, for me there are fundamental differences.

Edit: I am actually not sure what you're trying to argue. Some people just don't like the setting of San Andreas as much because they find the "hood culture" (and I don't mean it in any derogatory way) unfamiliar or unappealing or whatever. To me, it was the unfamiliarity and also sometimes (I was a lad in school learning English back then) difficulty in understanding the way characters speak and certain mannerisms. It was easier to me to understand and get the feel of both GTA3 and Vice City. Later, with more knowledge, I also "got" San Andreas. That's all I am saying.