GTA V PC Performance Thread

I had a friend say that he read somewhere on the internet(where everything is to be believed)that custom soundtracks/self radio are causing performance issues for some. Can anyone here on GAF confirm or deny this claim?


I can pretty much confirm I lose 10-15 frames whenever I put on self radio. Sucks cause I never get to use it.

I've lost about 10 frames since the latest patch Rockstar put out. Absolutely ridiculous. A lot of people have noticed shittier performance too since launch.

MSI GTX 970 / i5 3570
 
I had a friend say that he read somewhere on the internet(where everything is to be believed)that custom soundtracks/self radio are causing performance issues for some. Can anyone here on GAF confirm or deny this claim?

I'm pretty sure I've seen posts about that in this thread. I haven't really been paying attention too hard to see if there was a solution though.

I just checked and its not dual channel. Should I take it out and put it on the other color?

I'm sorry, you just blew my mind. Most memory nowadays I thought was sold in Dual or Quad Channel kits. Does your computer recognize 8 gigs of Ram when you click on start menu>right click on "My Computer">click on properties?

Did you connect your video cable through the GPU?


This is a good question, but he said he was using Geforce Experience, so I was afraid to ask
 
Did you connect your video cable through the GPU?
Yeah, I am. HDMI on my video card.
Sorry if I'm asking some seriously stupid questions, I haven't built a computer in over 14 years and I'm completely lost. I moved the tower out of my desk and into the open and it seems to run a bit better now. CPU was showing at 60c idle. I reseated the stock cooler and ordered a new one.
 
60's not so bad....oh, idle...

Sorry if I'm asking some seriously stupid questions,

I'm more worried about asking insulting questions. This might sound cliche but I don't think of questions as stupid. Someone's having a problem and asks a question and person calls it stupid all it does is piss off the person having the problem, not solve it, and make them think PC gamers are assholes. It's always just weird trying to help someone when you're not just there, knaaaamean?

Always keep some spare thermal paste around!
 
And its fucking fixed. 60 fps locked, mostly everything on high. Feels good man.

I took the PC out of its cubby, took off the side panel, reseated the cooler. (Was a bit loose)

I'm so dumb. Sorry guys.
 
I'm sorry, you just blew my mind. Most memory nowadays I thought was sold in Dual or Quad Channel kits.

There's really no such thing of dual or quad channel memory. You can theoretically put two different brands of memory in matching slots and it will run in dual channel mode as long as they are compatible. Running in single channel wouldn't cause the problems he's seeing anyways. For normal usage most applications will run nearly identically whether using single channel or quad channel memory. Modern processors are extremely efficient at managing the bottleneck that your system memory would cause.

And its fucking fixed. 60 fps locked, mostly everything on high. Feels good man.

I took the PC out of its cubby, took off the side panel, reseated the cooler. (Was a bit loose)

I'm so dumb. Sorry guys.

Glad you got it sorted out.
 
I had a friend say that he read somewhere on the internet(where everything is to be believed)that custom soundtracks/self radio are causing performance issues for some. Can anyone here on GAF confirm or deny this claim?

I can pretty much confirm I lose 10-15 frames whenever I put on self radio. Sucks cause I never get to use it.

I've lost about 10 frames since the latest patch Rockstar put out. Absolutely ridiculous. A lot of people have noticed shittier performance too since launch.

MSI GTX 970 / i5 3570

Yep, unfortunately this is a thing. Hopefully Rockstar can fix this soon.
 
Can someone guide me on how to warp to different locations in the Director mode? I want to test performance with different grass settings. I read somewhere you can do this in director mode or is it editor mode? I cant see any option for choosing location. How is it done please
 
I installed everything from the motherboard CD, so I'm guessing it was installed.


Im also playing borderlands 2 uncapped and everything maxed out and I get dips into the low 30s

First mistake, never use the CD since it's all outdated. Go to the motherboard manufacture site and grab the latest drivers and install:
Chipset
Management engine
USB 3.0
LAN

Also avoid installing motherboard monitoring software from the manufacturer.
 
You have a single 970? What model is it and is it overclocked? Because that's basically the opposite of what I get. I hover around 60-55 in the city and then with grass on ultra I drop to below 30 in any country area.

Sorry for the late reply.

Galax/KFA2 is the brand, it's currently at stock, which according to the product page on Overclockers are: Base 1050MHz, Boost 1177MHz, Memory 7010MHz.

Okay, I stopped writing to do a full daytime loop of San Andreas in a Comet to test framerates. In the city I managed to get a few seconds of under 60fps, and the lowest I got in those spots was about 54. The rest of the time the MSI Afterburner/RivaTuner OSD only showed anything under 60 for 1-2 refreshes at a time at most before going back up to 60+, with it hovering in the high 60s in parts and a top spot of 75. The absolute floor I saw was out in the country when I pulled off the freeway into a grassy field and did doughnuts, and that produced a low of 51.1 with an average of 54fps.

Now for the settings:
1080p
144hz
FXAA Off
MSAA X2
TAXX On
VSync Off (G-Sync)

Population Density 75
Variety 100
Distance Scaling 75

Texture Quality High
Shader Quality High
Shadow Quality High
Reflection Quality Ultra
Reflection MSAA Off
Water Quality High
Particles Quality Very High
Grass Quality High
Soft Shadows PCSS
Post FX Ultra
Motion Blur Off
In-game DoF Off
Anisotropic X16 (forced in NVCP and off in game, but won't stay off)
Ambient Occlusion High
Tesselation Very High

Long Shadows Off
High Resolution Shadows Off
High Detail Streaming On (SSD)
Extended Distance Scaling ~20%
Extended Shadows Distance Greyed Out

No Self Radio

The 970 is always (whenever I've looked) the bottleneck, being at 99% use. The 4690K (stock) has all four cores at between 65 and ~90% used.
 
Sorry for the late reply.

Galax/KFA2 is the brand, it's currently at stock, which according to the product page on Overclockers are: Base 1050MHz, Boost 1177MHz, Memory 7010MHz.

Okay, I stopped writing to do a full daytime loop of San Andreas in a Comet to test framerates. In the city I managed to get a few seconds of under 60fps, and the lowest I got in those spots was about 54. The rest of the time the MSI Afterburner/RivaTuner OSD only showed anything under 60 for 1-2 refreshes at a time at most before going back up to 60+, with it hovering in the high 60s in parts and a top spot of 75. The absolute floor I saw was out in the country when I pulled off the freeway into a grassy field and did doughnuts, and that produced a low of 51.1 with an average of 54fps.

Now for the settings:
1080p
144hz
FXAA Off
MSAA X2
TAXX On
VSync Off (G-Sync)

Population Density 75
Variety 100
Distance Scaling 75

Texture Quality High
Shader Quality High
Shadow Quality High
Reflection Quality Ultra
Reflection MSAA Off
Water Quality High
Particles Quality Very High
Grass Quality High
Soft Shadows PCSS
Post FX Ultra
Motion Blur Off
In-game DoF Off
Anisotropic X16 (forced in NVCP and off in game, but won't stay off)
Ambient Occlusion High
Tesselation Very High

Long Shadows Off
High Resolution Shadows Off
High Detail Streaming On (SSD)
Extended Distance Scaling ~20%
Extended Shadows Distance Greyed Out

No Self Radio

The 970 is always (whenever I've looked) the bottleneck, being at 99% use. The 4690K (stock) has all four cores at between 65 and ~90% used.

My settings are pretty different to yours, a lot higher but FXAA over MSAA on the 970 and hold 60fps even at the sawmill. Although I'm at 1545/7800Mhz. The GPU usage varies a lot for me, 45-95% usage. i7 3770 4.25Ghz and 8gb 2000Mhz ram.

Can someone guide me on how to warp to different locations in the Director mode? I want to test performance with different grass settings. I read somewhere you can do this in director mode or is it editor mode? I cant see any option for choosing location. How is it done please

After you enter director mode continue till you land in game. Then hold Back button on the 360 pad to open the quick menu. In there you can warp to any location and do a whole bunch of other things in real time.
 
Just realized I've been having the same issue I had in AC IV, where the game alternates between 60 and 30 and doesn't have anything in between. Decided to just up some of my lowered settings and set Vsync to capped 30 until I get a new GPU.
 
Is anyone playing this game on a 2012 macbook pro retina with the 650M?

If it actually runs on a stable framerate and looks OK I could buy this to play with my "pc master race brother" because he refuses to buy a ps4. :P
 
Is it just me or does AF not work properly? I've tried both the 16x ingame setting and nvidia's high quality 16x AF driver setting and it still only looks like 4xAF is being applied.
 
Just realized I've been having the same issue I had in AC IV, where the game alternates between 60 and 30 and doesn't have anything in between. Decided to just up some of my lowered settings and set Vsync to capped 30 until I get a new GPU.
The game doesnt have triple buffering, I use borderless windowed as thats triple buffered :).
 
My settings are pretty different to yours, a lot higher but FXAA over MSAA on the 970 and hold 60fps even at the sawmill. Although I'm at 1545/7800Mhz. The GPU usage varies a lot for me, 45-95% usage. i7 3770 4.25Ghz and 8gb 2000Mhz ram.



After you enter director mode continue till you land in game. Then hold Back button on the 360 pad to open the quick menu. In there you can warp to any location and do a whole bunch of other things in real time.

thanks mate, dunno how i missed that one heh.
 
Is it just me or does AF not work properly? I've tried both the 16x ingame setting and nvidia's high quality 16x AF driver setting and it still only looks like 4xAF is being applied.

Nah, AF isn't working in my game either. At least with the in-game setting. But now you say that even forcing it with the nvidia control panel also doesn't work? Damn. Rockstar has their work cut out for them:

  • Self Radio stuttering (annoying as shit)
  • Missing AO
  • Missing AF
 
I see a lot of people using PCSS. It has a considerable performance hit on my 970. Looks great but not sure if it's worth it since it's bringing me below 60 here and there.
 
Nah, AF isn't working in my game either. At least with the in-game setting. But now you say that even forcing it with the nvidia control panel also doesn't work? Damn. Rockstar has their work cut out for them:

  • Self Radio stuttering (annoying as shit)
  • Missing AO
  • Missing AF

The game does have AO though, right? You just can't turn it off or adjust it in any way.
 
Does anyone else get mostly black and white cars spawning on the road? While others occasionally spawn as well it feels like there is way too many black ones.
 
I see a lot of people using PCSS. It has a considerable performance hit on my 970. Looks great but not sure if it's worth it since it's bringing me below 60 here and there.

I have 60fps like 98% of the time now and I'm still using pcss. Maybe I'll try knocking it down to softer and see if I can bump something else up. Don't know if I can afford it but maybe even another tick of DSR.
 
Nah, AF isn't working in my game either. At least with the in-game setting. But now you say that even forcing it with the nvidia control panel also doesn't work? Damn. Rockstar has their work cut out for them:

  • Self Radio stuttering (annoying as shit)
  • Missing AO
  • Missing AF


Forcing AF through nvidia control panel definitely works here (gtx 970, windows 8.1, latest nvidia driver)
 
Sorry to see some people here having issues. After the last patch I got better performance, was able to max Teselation and shadows along with keeping DOF. I maintain 60fps most of the time.

i5 3570k and HD7970, 8GB
 
Oh hell yeah, game keeps crashing on that mission where you inspect some people from within a chopper to eventually steal a car from your target. Of course this mission is lengthy as shit and the whole 15min flight is not skippable. blargh
Second reproducable crash today after the transporter heist where the game would crash when switching to Michael unless you have the loading page on (wtf even Rockstar).
 
You sure that would be safe? I still got the stock cooling and i don't have any extra cooling system except 4 fans.

Well, you can get the Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO. It is a cheap CPU fan cooler and can help you to oc your FX 8320 to 4ghz.

There are other alternatives.
 
So anyone with 16gb ram, i7 4790k, and R9 290x, how are you doing ?

I've asked this many times, no answers :(

I have that exact setup, games been working fine for me. Pretty much everything on Very High with FXAA (I can drop 2-3 settings down to High and use MSAA if I want). I have all the Advanced features completely off except the flying one.
 
4790, 16gb, MSI Gaming 970 here.
Mostly Very High with MSAA
60 fps all around, except for forests/vegetation heavy areas, where it drops heavily to 40s ( 30 due to vsync). Stutter like shit either.
 
Someone earlier mentioned that the Self Radio stutters occured when the CPU was 100% loaded. I can now verify this. All the other radio stations have my CPU usage up around the 65% area. Once I switch on Self Radio my usage shoots up near the 85% range for all four cores. During a stutter I see my usage spike up too 100%.

So strange. I really hope R* can fix this.
 
My amd driver display crash when going story mode for some reason, the screen goes black and if I minimize before the videos in firefox are just a green screen. Any ideas??
 
Someone earlier mentioned that the Self Radio stutters occured when the CPU was 100% loaded. I can now verify this. All the other radio stations have my CPU usage up around the 65% area. Once I switch on Self Radio my usage shoots up near the 85% range for all four cores. During a stutter I see my usage spike up too 100%.

So strange. I really hope R* can fix this.

I've found that the number of songs you have has a huge impact on how big the performance drop is.

I had about 20~ songs originally and saw no performance drops. I later added my big list of 220 songs and the framerate would drop by about 10 frames when I listened to self radio. Might be worth trimming down your lists if you've got a lot.
 
I've found that the number of songs you have has a huge impact on how big the performance drop is.

I had about 20~ songs originally and saw no performance drops. I later added my big list of 220 songs and the framerate would drop by about 10 frames when I listened to self radio. Might be worth trimming down your lists if you've got a lot.

Is that with automatic music scan on or off?
 
I've found that the number of songs you have has a huge impact on how big the performance drop is.

I had about 20~ songs originally and saw no performance drops. I later added my big list of 220 songs and the framerate would drop by about 10 frames when I listened to self radio. Might be worth trimming down your lists if you've got a lot.

That's weird, mp3's are hardly a power draw. Hell, I had hundreds of songs in GTA 3, Vice City, San Andreas and GTA IV, and I never saw a performance hit. I mean, I still laugh to this day when I remember my friend's 100MHz 486 couldn't play .mp3's and connect to the Internet at the same time, but that just goes to show what little draw these small files a few megabytes in size are on the processor.

Must be something in the code that has the game constantly scanning each file, or something.
 
I5 4690 and GTX 970 and it was damn choppy at very high settings and that included the sound. So weird. Had to set it down to high to get it playable.

And I set to high and this shit is unacceptable. 30 frames with dips into the teens.


I have a gtx770 and sometimes find I have to restart my computer to get performance to increase if I play the game after leaving sleep or hibernate mode. It seems to flush vram? I have no idea , but have noticed a big difference when I reboot the computer sometimes - especially if the vram bar is red.

Edit: nvm, looks like your pc was running hot.
 
Now for the settings:
1080p
144hz
FXAA Off
MSAA X2
TAXX On
VSync Off (G-Sync)

Population Density 75
Variety 100
Distance Scaling 75

Texture Quality Very High
Shader Quality Very High
Shadow Quality High
Reflection Quality Very High
Reflection MSAA Off
Water Quality Very High
Particles Quality Very High
Grass Quality High
Soft Shadows PCSS
Post FX Ultra
Motion Blur Off
In-game DoF Off
Anisotropic X16 (forced in NVCP and off in game, but won't stay off)
Ambient Occlusion High
Tesselation Very High

Long Shadows Off
High Resolution Shadows Off
High Detail Streaming On (SSD)
Extended Distance Scaling ~20%
Extended Shadows Distance Greyed Out
I'd advise bumping up/down the bolded. The thing to turn down is reflections from ultra which has a huge framerate hit but, unless you're spending a lot of time staring at reflections up close, you will not be able to notice a difference between ultra and very high. You also want to keep textures at highest which should not affect framerate unless you exceed your VRAM (or 3.5 GB in the 970's case). Water and shaders have very little framerate cost so I'd leave those at highest. If you can stand some dips, I would even bump up Shadow Quality to Very High which enables headlight/helicopter spotlight dynamic shadows off of dynamic objects (eg. NPCs, cars, certain things that can be destroyed).

Basically, trade unnoticeable differences in reflection quality to bump up some pretty noticeable things that don't even cost much anyway. See my settings linked below, although I'm using FXAA instead of MSAA to keep performance up. Your 970, which is faster, might be able to do the same settings with MSAA.

So anyone with 16gb ram, i7 4790k, and R9 290x, how are you doing ?

I've asked this many times, no answers :(
I have a 280X, and GTA V runs great. See the following link for my specs and settings and performance. Basically, mostly 1080p60 with dips to ~45-50 during the most strenuous parts of the game (sunset being chased by 5-star cops through grass with headlights and helicopter spotlights on and gunfire everywhere).
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=161228200&postcount=5111
 
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