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[Embearded]

A million players for Horizon online with Fortnite art style and possibly a pay to play model?
Not in a million years.

I am down for am experience close to FW, but not for Fortnite with robo dinos, sorry.

 

[Angry_Megalodon]

 

[Randall365]

I’ll bet they do!

 

[Edellus]

I check these threads out mainly because I'm interested in the Horizon franchise (I've liked both mainline games a lot). But, to be honest, I also come here to see the hate this game gets. Most comments aren't even about the news. I'm starting to get a kick out of the absurdity of it, lol.

 

[Moriarty1889]

Hope this flops like Concord. Sick of Horizon already. Would much rather have a new Killzone.

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

Nah, Sony just wants one gaas cow for easy revenue. Their pivot to gaas games has failed quite spectacularly. One big success isn't going to change that

And Horizon online is a PvE game, so it is going to be hard to retain players attention on a daily basis. The profit potential is lower compared to PvP games

2024 shows just how unsaturated the GAAS market still is. Horizon Online is going to undress a lot of gamers here on NeoGAF.

Their may be PvP in the game as well.

 

[EverydayBeast]

Concentrate on story.

 

[CLW]

 

[Pasta la Vista]

If the game looks anything like that leak its gonna bomb hard.

 

[lh032]

they have to compete with monster hunter, i think this is a very hard task

 

[grvg]

This game will be one of the few that decides the direction of PlayStation going forward.

If it's a mild success, Guerilla is more likely to pursue new AAA SP titles going forward.

If it's a moderate or big success, Guerilla (and other PlayStation Studios) dive deeper into GAAS.

This is like the Super Bowl of videogame nerd discussions.

What if it crashes and burns, catastrophically?

Im pretty excited for that option.

 

[kaizenkko]

I'm not a fan of any live service game, but I think this game is probably the best one that Sony is developing (talking about live service games).

And people need to move on about Killzone, Socom or similars. These games sold poorly, especially the last entry of each ones. Like it or not, but Horizon was a game changer for Guerrilla. And to be honest, I think this studio could fit better has a live service developer.

 

[Guardian Monkey]

I'm not a fan of any live service game, but I think this game is probably the best one that Sony is developing (talking about live service games).

And people need to move on about Killzone, Socom or similars. These games sold poorly, especially the last entry of each ones. Like it or not, but Horizon was a game changer for Guerrilla. And to be honest, I think this studio could fit better has a live service developer.

I agree about killzone. They were ok at best but I don’t remember really a thing about other than the Sony kz2 demo disaster and the baked in lighting looked nice on the ps4 as a launch game. Other than that there is nothing remarkable about them in my mind.

Horizon though. What the hell is the live service game going to be? Like Destiny or PvP, I don’t know if there is enough there to keep people engaged. Hell I forced myself to finish the first one. The second one I straight up quit as it looked great but was the most boring shit ever.

How does a live service game outdo a focused campaign? Usually that just added more grinding bullshit. Where is the hook, the characters are all just weird, the setting is forced, I must be missing something.

 

[Guerilla Munch]

 

[Perrott]

Horizon though. What the hell is the live service game going to be?

It will literally be Monster Hunter, which was something that Guerrilla had already conceived for the first Horizon but was removed due to time/scope constraints.

Not talking about you, just generally, but I don't understand why so much people in this thread have such a hard time visualizing what a live-service Horizon game would look like, especially after us having been witness to an extensive leak of early gameplay footage from it.

 

[Kacho]

the second game was like being a resident in crazy town Seattle

I know exactly what you mean by this. I said the same thing about Avowed the other day. It will feel like an RPG set in a fantasized version of San Francisco. Totally kills the immersion.

 

[Schmendrick]

They're really betting a lot on that franchise, aren't they.

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

What if it crashes and burns, catastrophically?

Im pretty excited for that option.

There will be great rejoicing and great agony on that day. It will be stupendous either way.

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

Wonder if this one will last longer than Concorr.

 

[Fake]

This obsession with this franchise is like a ill.

 

[nial]

This obsession with this franchise is like a ill.

From the haters? 100% agreed.

 

[nial]

There will be great rejoicing and great agony on that day. It will be stupendous either way.

Kinda off-topic, but surprised that I haven't seen you feasting over THIS: https://www.neogaf.com/threads/marvel-rivals-officialy-announced.1668920/
Even worse than that old Switch prediction thread, honestly.

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

Kinda off-topic, but surprised that I haven't seen you feasting over THIS: https://www.neogaf.com/threads/marvel-rivals-officialy-announced.1668920/
Even worse than that old Switch prediction thread, honestly.

I genuinely prefer GAAS / multiplayer (in part) because that's where the industries innovation and creativity lies. Marvel Rivals is just poor mans Overwatch. Though its mediocrity does bode well for the growth of GAAS.

 

[Complistic]

Players love single player thing.

Peter the braindead executive: Lets make it multiplayer

 

[MiguelItUp]

Please don't.

Man, I really wish they'd just let this IP sleep. There are so many IPs that have been dormant for so long that people would love to see return. Such a weak exclusive IMO.

 

[clarky]

This game will be one of the few that decides the direction of PlayStation going forward.

If it's a mild success, Guerilla is more likely to pursue new AAA SP titles going forward.

If it's a moderate or big success, Guerilla (and other PlayStation Studios) dive deeper into GAAS.

This is like the Super Bowl of videogame nerd discussions.

Could go either way. Its a survival game right? Those can be quite popular but the shitty art style that leaked and the actual franchise its based on would make it a pass for me personally, not sure if most would feel that way though.

 

[FeralEcho]

It's nice to want things and aim high...lol

 

[MayauMiao]

Good luck, Guerrilla Games.

 

[Kupfer]

This obsession with this franchise is like a ill.

I don't get it either. Most bloated and over hyped franchise right now. Even more than new GoW

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

Could go either way. Its a survival game right? Those can be quite popular but the shitty art style that leaked and the actual franchise its based on would make it a pass for me personally, not sure if most would feel that way though.

This guy does an good job of putting everything together based on job listings...



TLDW: Sounds like some MMO / Monster Hunter game. I'm holding out PvP hope due to two Rainbow Six Siege hires and there's a couple references for matchmaking, plus combat against "humanoids". They are hiring for a bunch of BS cutscene positions, which doesn't give me tons of PvP hope.

 

[Salz01]

The first one was unique and interesting. The second one felt like a chore. Just boring. I can’t imagine doing any real,open world fetch quests in a mmo lite game. Also didn’t the Lego one flop?

 

[clarky]

The first one was unique and interesting. The second one felt like a chore. Just boring. I can’t imagine doing any real,open world fetch quests in a mmo lite game. Also didn’t the Lego one flop?

First one was alright the monster designs where fantastic, the humans not so much. Some of the headwear was fucking ridiculous. And the dialogue sucked.

I lost interest towards the end but finished it. Didn't play the second, no interest in anymore of the same

 

[Pegasus Actual]

In all my online gamer bro GaaSing never once did I ever hear anyone talking about Horizon. This is something about lesbians that fight robot dinosaurs or something?

 

[clarky]

In all my online gamer bro GaaSing never once did I ever hear anyone talking about Horizon. This is something about lesbians that fight robot dinosaurs or something?

Nailed it.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

It needs to have a unique hook and epic moments with friends

If it doesn’t have that it’s DoA, but the IP has potential for a GaaS

 

[Esppiral]

Horizon? Jesus Christ just fucking stop.

 

[Heisenberg007]

I think they will make it more like Genshin Impact - a game that runs on PlayStation, PC, and Mobile.

In that case, it may very well exceed that number - assuming it's actually good.

 

[Heimdall_Xtreme]

Hope this flops like Concord

 

[Hrk69]

Thank you Hermen

 

[Heisenberg007]

Hope this flops like Concord

Why do you hope the game flops?

A "gamer" wants a game not to be good and flop? That's weird.

 

[kevboard]

place your bets everyone! how many Concords will it manage to reach?

 

[TastyPastry]

this will be hermen's last fuck up before he is forced to leave

 

[NeonDelta]

Imagine doing this when the Killzone and SOCOM IPs are just sitting there

 

[DenchDeckard]

Ok squad. Will it last 6 months? 12 months? 10 years...place your Bets

 

[Thebonehead]

 

[cybertailor]

Makes me uneasy, it seems they're in some marketing type warp matrix with horizon, where they aggressively position and present it to be a big beloved franchise on the scale of a disney/marvel one, that it simply isn't.
Just because you create a lot of tie-ins,etc doesn't make Horizon Fortnite. People like Horizon and the game could catch on, but the positioning and presentation of Horizon is pure make believe at this point.

That being said, wtf are they not just doing Killzone III and giving it a simple but kickass Multiplayer mode. I don't know why corporations make it that hard for themselves.

 

[hemo memo]

I swear, it feels like these companies are sometimes run by toddlers. They chase trends like live service games without considering long-term viability, and it ends up tanking entire studios.

 

[xrnzaaas]

Sony is doing this wrong. They should've added Factions to TLoU2 and a multiplayer component to Horizon 2. Make them free add-ons, but with microtransactions, passes and cosmetics.

Not many people are going to pay for a separate full-priced Horizon MP game (assuming it wil be a paid game, which is the most likely scenario right now).

 

[Heisenberg007]

Makes me uneasy, it seems they're in some marketing type warp matrix with horizon, where they aggressively position and present it to be a big beloved franchise on the scale of a disney/marvel one, that it simply isn't.

It is a big franchise.

Both games have sold more than 35 million copies. Not many games achieve that status.

 

[Lucifers Beard]

I know that Horizon clearly has a fan base, but this couldn't sound any less exciting.