It looks like DLGamer, which is an official digital retailer, has HoT for 21.99, so the 20 dollar add-on isn't really much of a bundle price.
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It looks like DLGamer, which is an official digital retailer, has HoT for 21.99, so the 20 dollar add-on isn't really much of a bundle price.
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sackboy2197
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Thanks you very much for the info
The guild is very much still around, it's just not as big as it once was.
Nemesis121
Member
hahahahahaha
GaF guild currently sleeps with the fishes, with a cinder block tied to it's ankles...
Maybe some of the Guild Leaders may try and resurrect the guild in time for PoF..
i was out of touch with game for 4 years, here is the question:
i opened gem shop and see only a bunch of full outfits aswell as very few cosmetic items. i dont own hot though.
is that really all that available in shop skin wise or am i missing something? i kinda like my 4 year old outfit more than everything i saw in shop lmao http://i.imgur.com/M5VaBZf.jpg
where are all the skins, its been 4 years lol
i opened gem shop and see only a bunch of full outfits aswell as very few cosmetic items. i dont own hot though.
is that really all that available in shop skin wise or am i missing something? i kinda like my 4 year old outfit more than everything i saw in shop lmao http://i.imgur.com/M5VaBZf.jpg
where are all the skins, its been 4 years lol
They rotate things in the shop.
Some armor skins that have been added post launch and not-gem store or outfit are:
Carapace - good
Luminescent - bleh
Bladed - bleh
Leystone - bleh
Glorious - I like the medium but not the light armor
Triumphant - good
Guild - pretty nice
And then there's Experimental, Refined, and Perfected Envoy armor as part of the legendary armor process.
is there a complete gallery somewhere? outfits are basically why i play mmos. i give no shit about stats or rarity, its all about looks.
i'll wear lvl 1 armor if its godlike
thanks a lot, much appreciated.
i have 93% map completion on my main character, guess i'll finish it to 100% and see if its worth it to buy hot+expansion
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It's pretty impressive how soon this is coming out to the point where I kiiiiinda wish it were just a little further out to be able to give it the attention it really deserves. But the Crystal Desert was always my jam and where I've been wanting to go in the first place since launch, and the elites for Ele, Engi and Ranger sound great to me.
Source?
He's referring that they don't do full blown collections for new legendaries now, they are purely crafting.
Yep, I'm looking up the new legendary sword and it looks like most of it is crafting. While I was doing Astralaria, I remember having to do a bunch of fractal and other stuff for the collection.
Kos Luftar
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You just don't want to have to choose between Destiny 2 and PoF.
Sooo happy with the announcement. They made me feel like the game was made for me again. Puh!
Made five new characters afterwards. I had three free slots from before and got a fourth one with PoF so I couldn't stop myself from getting a fifth and making one more of each race.
Really looking forward to some of the new elite specs but I like a lot of my characters the way they are now. So more it is! Even without the instant 80 boost from PoF I would have been able to get them all to 80 with tomes and scrolls, pff.
Pretty annoyed that only humans got new stuff tho.
Made five new characters afterwards. I had three free slots from before and got a fourth one with PoF so I couldn't stop myself from getting a fifth and making one more of each race.
Really looking forward to some of the new elite specs but I like a lot of my characters the way they are now. So more it is! Even without the instant 80 boost from PoF I would have been able to get them all to 80 with tomes and scrolls, pff.
Those exact two are the ones I got! The characters also got two of the new faces.I might need to change how some of my characters look, some of these hairstyles look a lot more detailed than the original ones.
Pretty annoyed that only humans got new stuff tho.
WHAT THE FAK
I don't have to choose in that I am definitely getting both and am now going to spend less time with each than I would have otherwise... lol
Kos Luftar
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savor_savvy
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HoT and new expansion for USD49.99. Is it worth to get HoT now?
There's a lot to do in HoT I mean you likely wouldn't finish everything you could possibly do by the time the 3rd expansion comes out.
sackboy2197
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Am I wrong in thinking that they went back on their word? When HoT was announced they said that going forward with every new release, the previous one would be free (or included at the very least). Mind you, I still think it's pretty fair.
spleenpoker
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Just bought Heart of Thorns last week, can't wait to play this weekend.
I see Living World Season 2 is on special on the Gem Store and I only need to pay 840 gems but they only sell gems in multiples of 800.
I can get 40 gems for about 11g on the currency exchange.
I currently have 14g from when I played back at launch. Is it easy to get more gold because I played for a few months at launch and that doesn't seem like a lot of gold for that amount of time played. (bare in mind, I didn't get to 80)
I see Living World Season 2 is on special on the Gem Store and I only need to pay 840 gems but they only sell gems in multiples of 800.
I can get 40 gems for about 11g on the currency exchange.
I currently have 14g from when I played back at launch. Is it easy to get more gold because I played for a few months at launch and that doesn't seem like a lot of gold for that amount of time played. (bare in mind, I didn't get to 80)
Freeman76
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Fastest way, buy orders imo.
Use GW2TP.net to help you work out what to buy. Runes and sigils will earn you anywhere between 10-80silver (sometimes more) per flip.
If you have 14g I would suggest put a buy order in for 10 runes/sigils/Insignias with a BO price of 50-80 silver, that sell for around 1g or more. Start from there and you will have lots of gold in no time.
An example at the minute is superior sigil of force, you make 70silver per BO, so 10 will net you 7 gold. I know you only have money for 2 BO on those but even if you did that, the orders fill quick and they sell almost instantly so thats 1g40 profit in a few mins
sackboy2197
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So the idea is, buy order, get the items, sell order -> profit? I should start doing that too. Sounds better than farming SW, even though it's not as fun.
Freeman76
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Yes. I made well over 15k in total but spent loads on gems for skins etc so have around 9.5k left. Gonna start doing it again now ready for POF.
I bought a permanent trading post npc so I can flip items while waiting for bosses and events etc.
I started with runes, when I was doing it to begin with Superior Rune of the Eagle made me a few hundred gold as they were about 30s per flip but could have a BO of 40 filled in less than an hour and then sell them on almost instantly. Superior Sigil if Fire used to be a really good one too but neither make a lot now.
Then from there I was flipping Final rest, Kymswarden, Rusttooth (using black lion tools to get sigil and inscription) and a million other things...and eventually BL Skins as well. Sometimes crafting mats get bought out a lot with less supply and a margin emerges but never lasts long.
There are many more effective ways to do it but thats what I did. Its pretty fun to see all your orders coming in
Isaac Otherworld
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Thankfully with Destiny 2 coming out 2 weeks before it allows players to play through the bulk of the content there and lets them decide if they want Path of Fire.
Yesterday I was considering missing it at launch, now I'm going to wait and see how much content D2 has and how time consuming it will be.
Frankly I find the reaction to this expansion quite odd when compared to HoT.
HoT had like twice the number of features that they just announced for this one and everyone was like 'Eh .. seems a bit light', here they just announce Zones and Elite Specs and nothing else and everyone is like "BEST EXPANSION EVER"
Nostalgia surely is a wonderful thing I guess ... xD
HoT had like twice the number of features that they just announced for this one and everyone was like 'Eh .. seems a bit light', here they just announce Zones and Elite Specs and nothing else and everyone is like "BEST EXPANSION EVER"
Nostalgia surely is a wonderful thing I guess ... xD
Isaac Otherworld
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I think it's an issue of quality over quantity. As well as just better presentation.
Just my perspective, I never played Gw1. I've always been super excited about going to the Crystal Desert not just because it sounds amazing but because GW2's world is way to jungle heavy even before HoT. We don't have a true desert zone aside from Dry top and Silver Wastes and those are more like badlands than true deserts. I'm far, far more excited about these zones regardless of their size and the number of them than I ever was for the Maguuma Jungle, because I'd been in the Maguuma Jungle already. It's just Mordremoth is in these specific parts now.
Gliding is an amazing feature from HoT. But the other masteries like the all the central tyria ones, the various lore ones, just sucked. The mounts all look fantastic, as great of an addition to the game as gliding. They're well animated, the sound design is great, and there is a real weight to them. All of them have unique abilities to help explore unique areas, keeping the Metroid style feel that Gliding provided.
Even the elite specializations all look more interesting and exciting to play than the original batch, even though I ended up loving the original batch to death. The Dragonhunter was overall quite disappointing, as was the Tempest and honestly I thought the Berserker was too obvious of a direction to take warriors that I wasn't really all that excited about it. Multiple classes had disappointing weapon choices, from While I think some of them are definitely going to be more PvP oriented than Fractal or Raid oriented, I think all of them look fun and exciting to play. There isn't a stinker in the bunch and every single weapon is basically exactly what I would have given each of the classes sans adding new weapon categories like Spears above water.
Plus a lot of it is in the presentation I feel. The official announcements for the Elite Specializations for HoT were these long, really dry presentations by developers who clearly are not media personalities dryly running through all the various skills. This time around we have short, well made and edited and snappy trailers that are exciting to watch. I mean compare this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQH22obsdhM
With this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIQNnE6LyX4
Freeman76
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Its nothing to do with nostalgia. HoT looked a lot better than it ended up being for most of us. It kind of strayed from what made the base game so good, and the way the events worked kind of actually worked against it.
This looks like they have learned from that and are trying to get back to what made it fun to begin with. This one is appealling to fans of the base game because its back to the exploration and not such convoluted, confusing maps.
Err.
1. The announcement itself is way better. We have pretty much all the info instead of the silly slow trickle we had for HoT. It feels sorta meaty because we got all the elite specs at the same time for example.
2. The game is in a completely different place. So we have different expectations now.
3. The cost is way lower.
But sure, it must be nostalgia.
Nemesis121
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Price wins.
HoT:$50
PoF:$30.
Also we will go into season 4 of the Living Story with more free content..
I'm putting aside how HoT turned out in the end and just comparing the two announcements.
The original presentation was pretty much the same as this one, the elite specs slow reveal was long and a bit awkward, yes but it also was a little event in itself every time.
The price is lower, sure, might as well be since it simply seems to have less content.
The game being in a 'better place' is arguable at best, LS3 was consistently good, but so was LS2 at the time, didn't prevent HoT to be far from what was announced, we have no guarantees that it won't be the same here (in the same way or not, worse there is a precedent now).
The only thing this has really going for it is a supposed guarantee that PVE content will come at a similar rythm than LS3 but as far as what's to come for other areas of the game we have no idea what that entails, it's a complete gamble.
If I were to be dramatically caricatural for a second it almost feels like buying a MMO Gatcha game.
The original presentation was pretty much the same as this one, the elite specs slow reveal was long and a bit awkward, yes but it also was a little event in itself every time.
The price is lower, sure, might as well be since it simply seems to have less content.
The game being in a 'better place' is arguable at best, LS3 was consistently good, but so was LS2 at the time, didn't prevent HoT to be far from what was announced, we have no guarantees that it won't be the same here (in the same way or not, worse there is a precedent now).
The only thing this has really going for it is a supposed guarantee that PVE content will come at a similar rythm than LS3 but as far as what's to come for other areas of the game we have no idea what that entails, it's a complete gamble.
If I were to be dramatically caricatural for a second it almost feels like buying a MMO Gatcha game.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
do people even buy ultimate edition
Freeman76
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You obviously have very little love for the game so its no wonder you arent interested in anything new for it.
Isaac Otherworld
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The Unbound Harvesting tools are back don't judge me.
But they don't exist in a vacuum so it makes absolutely no sense to "put aside" how it turned out. That's just... no.
No it wasn't. It was a live show that was over an hour long with lots of promises without anything to show. Like they had just started working on it. Of course the reaction to that was more negative than "here's the whole thing, look at the maps, the mounts and the details of the specs, out in less than two months, thanks all!" compressed to 20 fully packed minutes.
Yeah of course, but people see a price that is almost half of the last expansion and are just happy that they don't have to pay the same amount this time.
No one said "better place". I said "different place". I would actually argue that because of HoT people had MUCH lower expectations. Which means my "different place" is more like "worse place". I dunno what post you have read.
I was just trying to tell you, as a GW1 player, that nostalgia has NOTHING to do with my love of this announcement. And I don't think it matters that much to others either. Instead there are a lot of factors that say "Here's less of that HoT thing and more of the original GW2" and that speaks to a huge amount of GW2 players.
I don't see GW1 in there. I see new huge GW2 maps that I will love to explore. I see fun mounts and lovely new elite specs. I see branded (a GW2 enemy, didn't exist in GW1), new Balth enemies (never existed in GW1) and some minor Elona stuff that still feels more like GW2 than GW1.
Like for HoT if you plan to buy gems at some point in the near future, might as well grab that for the price of the gems + the base package and get the extras than buy gems alone.
Considering there's the anniversary sale on the horizon, and that the expansion will most likely come out with some fancy stuff it isn't the worst idea.
I put it aside because at the time of the HoT announcement we didn't know that HoT would turn the way it did. Like we don't know now for this expansion, that's what I meant.
They also had a trailer that showed a glimpse of a bit of everything, exactly like they did yesterday.
Now sure we didn't have the Elite-Spec reel or the little dive on Mounts until way later but there is a timeframe difference (that works in favor of Xpac2 of course)
For good reason, what you get upfront is basically a condensed living story season + elite specs.
And that's what bothers me the most actually the number of things that fell short of greatness over the years, and how Anet themselves just seem settle for 'good enough', usually expansions are the moment when a game, online or not gets dramatically shaken up.
Everything here seems a little bit to focused and safe, and it will certainly work well for that content because of that but this expansion really lacks any type of ambition in my eyes even if I can sort of understand why they take this aproach after HoT.
Saying that nostalgia doesnt matter overall may be going a bit far, I have a guild that was for the most part ready to push a pre-order button the second they heard "crystal desert" in the last LS episode.
Now I certainly see why you would be excited about the way they talk about the new maps considering how you love the vanilla maps, but once again we can only take their word for it for now, they also spinned the HoT maps as being fun to explore and having things to find in every nook and cranny so we'll have to see, as long as it doesn't consist of finding 40 tokens in the most random weird places on the map for almost nothing ... xD
HoT was also announced with a guy talking over concept art with no or extremely little footage
You can buy season 2 for the base game, yes; Season 2 took place before Heart of Thorns was released.
Heart of Thorns comes with its own "campaign" or set of story missions that take place between Seasons 2 and 3.
All of the features and maps that were released to the game by Living World S2 can be accessed without either purchasing Heart of Thorns or Season 2; only the story missions themselves, achievements and associated rewards are locked. For that matter, all of the features and maps introduced by Season 3 are accessible as long as you own Heart of Thorns, with only the missions etc. locked.
The way the living world releases work is that if you are playing the game while the season is active, logging it at any point during a release unlocks it permanently for free on your account (even if you don't play or touch it at all during that window, it'll still be there a year later for you to play if you choose). After that release is over, that individual episode gets a gem cost to purchase if you missed it, and the full season is similarly bundled for people who missed the entire thing.
The missions themselves are pretty high quality, but the narrative itself is nothing amazing, though improved in Season 3. It's totally up to you if that content is worth the gem price. In my opinion here is plenty to explore and experience without shelling out for the Seasons right away, and then if you enjoy the zones and atmosphere of the newest regions enough and are still hungry for more, consider buying them. For some, the "guidance" factor (the story sequence will take you through the new maps and kind of explain their gimmicks) is worth the price itself, but that's never been the heart of the game for me. I believe I finished the original personal story somewhere around the 1 year anniversary of the game
Haha... I mean some players sure I suppose. Personally I cannot enjoy playing games that way and am unlikely to have even done the raid (which likely won't even be accessible until week two in the first place) in that timeframe.
I did for HoT and may for PoF, sure.
In the half-decade since launch I have spent under $50 on direct gem purchases (and even that is a considerable amount for me when it comes to microtransactions). Regardless of what's included. these bundles have value for me primarily in terms of just supporting the devs since it's a direct reflection of gameplay and content work.
PKMNTrainer
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Coming back to the game for the first time in forever. Barely reached level 40 on my old account. Am I missing anything by skipping straight to 80 with my boost?
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