I'm not sure how the trailblazing will work. A lot of people didn't like being on for like four hours for the whole event.
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I'm not sure how the trailblazing will work. A lot of people didn't like being on for like four hours for the whole event.
Legendary spiders the size of SUVs, hanging out in the pitch black canopy above, waiting to drop down and insta-gib you if you wander off the path. That's what we need. And worse. Evil Sylvari riding round on Legendary Spiders the size of SUVs!
There's a lot of structures in place for Polymock, but they dialed back Activities because of Kos. I could see new Renown hearts being added along side events; I imagine their skill at crafting hearts has improved along with their event design.
As for low end armor, I said a few pages back that I would love to see them put more focus on Karma and toss in a bunch of new rewards that way. Low end weapon/armor sets would definitely fit the bill, especially if it matched the area thematically (for example, Kessex Hills' vendors all sell pieces of the Lionguard uniform).
And missions... well... They've said that they want to make previous Living Story content available to players, I think incorporating it into the game as missions would work perfectly. That way the Personal Story could also be retooled as well.
Don't really see it happening. ANet has built a wholly co-operative game and has redefined the M in MMO. I don't think they'll put massive amounts of resources into something that splits off into a single instance for every player. Everything they do is about driving the open world (dungeons and whatnot aside). They love the idea of people playing together which oddly every other MMOs seem to try their damnedest to make you hate other people which is pretty counter-intuitive to the whole name of the genre anyways.
Like I said in my post on the last page; the entire zone clears in two weeks no matter what, but the reward increases depending on how deep players push into the territory on their own via completion of Events.
For example, say we have a large zone that is completely overgrown. You can't even walk into the jungle because it's so densely overgrown, and if you do manage to get inside, some invisible nasties just instantly kill you or dump you at the edge of the woods in a downed state. You literally have to clear the way first.
So let's say the first part of the campaign (which, let's be serious, that's what this is; a strike at the heart of an Elder Dragon before he can fully awaken) is scouting. Events start up every hour (this was a good pace for Lion's Arch and Marionette) to do some reconnaissance in force. The catch is, there's more than one set of events running, so maybe the southern forces start up river in patrol boats (Apocalypse Now-style) at the top of the hour, then the middle forces start into the jungle at 20 minutes past, then the northern forces try to make their way towards some ruins at 40 minutes. Each time an event is successfully completed, that area is scouted a little bit more, a progress gauge fills and players get a reward. Little random events occur along the way; spiders drop from the canopy or some kind of drake rises out of the river. Something that makes each trek into the jungle unpredictable.
Once a progress gauge is completely filled, a new event begins. For example, the Southern forces have come to a waterfall and need to find a way up it. The Middle team needs to clear-cut a road into the jungles, and the northern team needs to establish a base camp in the ruins, which turn out to be a lost city. Again; the events run at regular, staggered intervals and progress is done a step at a time. Now, however, a random element is added; once an hour, some kind of enemy attacks one of the forces, sending up a zone-wide event. It happens randomly, and without warning.
The events would basically go on like that over the course of two weeks. Defend a position one day, push in further the next, clear cut a road the next day, escort supply dolyaks the next. The progression would be paced out so that it usually takes about a day to move the event forward.
Here's where things could get really interesting. Each server would be working independently, so some will progress in different ways than others. Depending on how the events are being completed, different things can unlock. Imagine there's a dungeon in this new zone that you don't get access to until one of the campaigns reaches it. Now imagine each of the three paths through that dungeon are unlocked based on which campaigns have made it to that objective.
Lots of things could work like that. Establishing waypoints. Unlocking new vendors with unique rewards based on the path (aquatic weapon skins and rebreathers for the River-route? Camouflaged armor skins for the middle Jungle team? Ancient weapon skins found in the ruined city the North Team is exploring?
We're talking about 42 events (3 every day for two weeks), plus a slew of random encounters that can occur during those events, plus a big bad World Event-type encounter. I'd compare it to something like Orr, but obviously temporary. But holy shit would everyone remember it.
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They should've disabled BL during the past two events, or at least the previous event! Gnash Ebonblade being turned into some non-Black Lion Trade officer.
Consortium should have taken over briefly or somesuch.
Kos Luftar
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http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/20pi9r/10_new_locations_are_added_to_the_gw2_atlas/
Images cannot actually be discovered yet but somehow someone on reddit has 9/10 images already and has linked them in the comments.
Nothing too spoilery just a images of how LA will look like today when the update goes live.
From what I heard on VisualWood podcast, the Atlas is suppose to be a tool for fan sites to share exclusive content about upcoming updates with GW2 fans. They give out coordinates and we find the images. Yet twice now all the images have been found before any major MMO coverage site has given out any coordinates. This is failing so far.
https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/forum/livingworld/escape/kissing-should-of-been-left-out (very smart discussion)
Images cannot actually be discovered yet but somehow someone on reddit has 9/10 images already and has linked them in the comments.
Nothing too spoilery just a images of how LA will look like today when the update goes live.
Lots of memorials and breachmaker scraps around fort mariner.
From what I heard on VisualWood podcast, the Atlas is suppose to be a tool for fan sites to share exclusive content about upcoming updates with GW2 fans. They give out coordinates and we find the images. Yet twice now all the images have been found before any major MMO coverage site has given out any coordinates. This is failing so far.
https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/forum/livingworld/escape/kissing-should-of-been-left-out (very smart discussion)
That's pretty much how I've imagined it, but I've imagined supply dolyaks waiting at the edges of the maps, waiting to be "filled" with ressources, to be able to build outpost, further in the jungle.
Make us use our own ressources (Wood, Ore, Food) to fill these bar up, and drop the amount of these supplies from the TP.
Also, unlocking a full map within two weeks is a bit quick. maybe a whole month, which is usually a one cycle release.
They should build tents with thick leather.
And bloodstone dust.
I really think Anet likes emphasizing areas they've already built though, so in order to preserve resources, they could have two weeks of clearing up some disaster created by a toxic bloom in an old part of Tyria. By defeating whatever the bloom creates, it provides our "expedition team" with more knowledge/resources/magics to venture deeper into Maguuma. There'd be two campaigns, essentially: defending the homefront and venturing deeper into enemy territory. I liked Retro's Apocalypse Now analogy.\
It's funny: A "crazed acolyte of Mordremoth" type character (see: Scarlet) would make total sense to introduce right now. Unfortunately, Scarlet herself is dead. An acolyte character like that with the backing and reasoning of being controlled by ol' Mordy himself is actually way more compelling than how they wrote scarlet's... uh... "arc". The threat of Mordremoth and the promise of fighting another Elder Dragon is big enough to carry an arc, but I think you need to bring a more immediate threat, or rather face, to the battle so that characters can have some antagonistic spats before the big battle. As cheesy as it may sound, some kind of group of "villians", Mordremoth's "executive team" as it were, would be appropriate.
Not to mention, at some point we'll have to encounter his lieutenant...
It's funny: A "crazed acolyte of Mordremoth" type character (see: Scarlet) would make total sense to introduce right now. Unfortunately, Scarlet herself is dead. An acolyte character like that with the backing and reasoning of being controlled by ol' Mordy himself is actually way more compelling than how they wrote scarlet's... uh... "arc". The threat of Mordremoth and the promise of fighting another Elder Dragon is big enough to carry an arc, but I think you need to bring a more immediate threat, or rather face, to the battle so that characters can have some antagonistic spats before the big battle. As cheesy as it may sound, some kind of group of "villians", Mordremoth's "executive team" as it were, would be appropriate.
Not to mention, at some point we'll have to encounter his lieutenant...
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I think GAFGuild could build an entire city from Bloodstone Bricks alone.
From the captions for the new Atlas images, it's kind of setting up just such a thing. It explicitly states
"Famed throughout Tyria, the Black Lion Trading Company is now a crumbled ruin in the wake of the devastating Battle for Lion's Arch"
Yay, repulsive people and/or trolls.
Yeah, having to bring supply to Dolyaks that depart at set times would be a solid event too, and one more thing to add to the schedule that keeps the zone hopping. The escorts would basically depart whether they have supply or not and always contribute towards progress even if they're 'empty', but by bringing supplies to them you can accelerate things. For example, if the event is "Establish a base camp", the more supplies you bring for the hourly Dolyak run makes that objective complete faster.
Supplies would be found in the zone itself, of course; piles of timber along areas that have been clear cut, groves of edible fruit, maybe even support drops from airships passing overhead. You could also have supply camps in other zones too; scrap metal in Plains of Ashford, foodstuffs from Queensdale, timber from the Shiverpeaks. You'd only be able to gather supply at those camps once per day, but that way you could do some materiel gathering on alts or in relatively safe areas if the jungle isn't very active (i.e. overnight).
Well, my thought was that you'd unlock narrow 'safe routes' into the zone for the first two weeks. The area outside those paths would be too dangerous to explore, so everything is focused on the 'war effort'. Once two weeks are up, the story basically treats that expeditionary phase as complete (regardless of how far the players managed to push into the territory) and the zone becomes completely open. That's when you can explore, do renown hearts (if they add them), Vistas, etc. and see what kind of cool hidden things are off the beaten path (of course, it would still be a dangerous zone).
Also, it occurs to me that I obviously overlooked including the Living Story characters here too; Rox and Braham taking the dangerous path straight into the jungle, Marjory and Kasmeer investigating the ruins, Taimi pushing up river with somebody like Kiel or Magus. That'd lend some interesting chatter and banter to the affair too.
Jest Chillin
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Come on Retro.. you gotta put Rox in the contingent that's exploring the river just so they can make some "cats hate water" jokes.
Yeah, see my comment above about visiting supply camps around Tyria so you can stock up on materiel for the war effort. I could see them taking a whole two-week chapter to just build up resources; establishing a base camp in a pre-existing zone, organizing Lion's Arch refugees into a volunteer militia, and setting up those supply depots in older zones. But I feel like there's not enough there to really feel 'awesome', and after the pacing issues with Season One, I think they need to hit it hard right out of the gate. The idea that you're making a pre-emptive strike against the Dragon means this whole thing should feel breakneck paced, and having a slow preparation / research / planning phase doesn't fit well with that.
See, I like the idea of keeping it away from a villain, because the villain is the dragon and it's a little too early for him/her/it to pop up and say "Hi!" Instead, focus on just how absurdly oppressive and dangerous his domain is; the flora and fauna should both be trying to kill you non-stop. Giant spiders in the canopy, centuries-old Mosshearts that have grown to massive scale, Corrupted Jungle Trolls that look like Sylvari-versions of the Hulk. Completely invisible
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Keep it focused on nature, because that seems like the core of Mordremoth's power. All of the Elder Dragons take what exists and corrupts it in their own unique way; the Risen, Branded, Icebrood, etc. The Jungle dragon, it seems to me, would corrupt the natural world to be unnatural; larger, faster, deadlier.
As for a Lieutenant, I imagined after a couple days of events in the new zone it would make itself obvious as a World Event-type affair where he attacks one of the expeditionary routes.
I didn't see Marjory and Kasmeer as the type to push straight into the jungle, supervising the removal of the brush and base camps, nor could I see them letting Taimi do the same. They both seem more at ease in the wilderness than the others would. For example, I can just hear Kasmeer's dialogue about taking a 'relaxing river cruise' instead of stomping through a muddy jungle (and then Marjory explaining how they'll be sitting ducks in the middle of the water with enemies hidden on either side in ambush).
Besides, they can have the "Cats don't like water" joke before each team splits up. When they're asking for volunteers for the river Rox could just pipe up "Not it!" and then refuse to explain why.
You're welcome, that's a good song (assuming you're listening to CCR and not some awful cover I've never heard).
And it's not the kind of event that finishes even if no one is there. If they die mid-way through the path they'll need to be rez'd, so no new escort event starts until this first one gets to destination.
Make it even harder, if you fill them with supplies, they lose some, if the dolyak dies during the event.
I think actual crafting supplies would be better than zone supplies. Just to spice up the economy a bit, like the Bazaar did. Make it so that it requires materials that have HUGE amounts on the TP.
Make sense, 2 weeks of events, and 2 weeks to explore the zone with new events in them.
It could easily be a combination of both. You could donate large chunks of crafting materials to the war effort in exchange for generic "Supply crates" that you can drop off at these Dolyak escorts in bulk, rather than the once-per-day supply nodes scattered around the zone or located in other regions. That way, established players can just say "Fuck it" and skip doing any kind of running around while there's a way for new players to help, without even leaving the lower level zones.
Sorry for the double post, but it looks like there's some press starting to trickle out now;
Spoilers inside, obviously.
http://www.tentonhammer.com/gw2/news/guild-wars-2-aftermath-update-lands-today
Spoilers inside, obviously.
http://www.tentonhammer.com/gw2/news/guild-wars-2-aftermath-update-lands-today
Those are not spoilers.
They are if you didn't play the last update. THERE'S STILL AN HOUR LEFT, maybe more!
Jest Chillin
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I didn't see Marjory and Kasmeer as the type to push straight into the jungle, supervising the removal of the brush and base camps, nor could I see them letting Taimi do the same. They both seem more at ease in the wilderness than the others would. For example, I can just hear Kasmeer's dialogue about taking a 'relaxing river cruise' instead of stomping through a muddy jungle (and then Marjory explaining how they'll be sitting ducks in the middle of the water with enemies hidden on either side in ambush).
Besides, they can have the "Cats don't like water" joke before each team splits up. When they're asking for volunteers for the river Rox could just pipe up "Not it!" and then refuse to explain why.
I'd say mix up the groups for new dynamics. Put Rox, Kasmeer and Taimi together fording the River and Brahm with Marjory pushing the main jungle path. Other notable NPCs on minor jungle paths. Save the research-exploration for the post-clearing period (perhaps tie some in with DE's).
Kos Luftar
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Interesting. The Atals screenshots make it seem like the breachmaker is
destroyed
drilling
Yeah, I was just spitballing ideas, mostly. I would hope for three main event 'paths' though, exploring was sort of just a reason. It could have just as easily been a series of events built around establishing a base inside an existing, ruined city.
Jest Chillin
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Oh I know you were just throwing things out there, I just based my ideas on yours considering there's no basis. Otherwise it would just be comparing random ideas back and forth.
I just want Rox on a river dammit! A Charr from a mining warband on a boat.. I mean come on man. The cheesy jokes write themselves!
Patch notes up: https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/forum/info/updates/Game-Update-Notes-March-18-2014
I mention missions mostly because of the many lapsed GW2 gamers I've seen complain about, "permanent content for my own leisure." Instead of yelling at them, "GO PLAY A SINGLE PLAYER RPG," I decided to be constructive instead of angry. The Mission Structure could be similar to the Personal Story system. They just need to make it replayable.
I mention missions mostly because of the many lapsed GW2 gamers I've seen complain about, "permanent content for my own leisure." Instead of yelling at them, "GO PLAY A SINGLE PLAYER RPG," I decided to be constructive instead of angry. The Mission Structure could be similar to the Personal Story system. They just need to make it replayable.
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Non story Patch stuff:
1500 max for the collection tab? Good Grenth!
1500 max for the collection tab? Good Grenth!
Along with the PvP maintenance, there was also a bit of WvW polish. Nothing major. They also confirmed that WvW points will be refunded.
Big standouts are:
Big standouts are:
- Collection Expanders can now be used up to 5 times per account, increasing the stack size in the Bank Collections tab to 1500! Collection Expanders can be found in the Upgrades category of the Gem Store for 800 gems each.
- Made a slight change to the Zodiac armor skins to make normal maps less defined on the chest portion.
Kos Luftar
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Is the update live?
Awesome new wallpaper in the Release page.
Awesome new wallpaper in the Release page.
Loading screen and music in Lion's Arch are now different. Pay attention.
Fake Edit: Yeah, the update was live at the time I posted the patch notes.
Second Fake Edit: Someone in map chat described the three female Asura ones as: mohawk, Taimi's hairstyle, 90s anime-ish braids.
Fake Edit: Yeah, the update was live at the time I posted the patch notes.
Second Fake Edit: Someone in map chat described the three female Asura ones as: mohawk, Taimi's hairstyle, 90s anime-ish braids.
shysaursoft
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They're finally letting us dump some past-event crap? Nice. I hope this officially empites out a few of my bank tabs.
Kos Luftar
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Someone playing right now...get screenshots of these.
shysaursoft
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Personally, I think they should add a 'solo' path to all existing dungeons, that's shorter, easier, a different story, and has Veteran Mode for replayability. So when you don't want to PuG or can't find people, or just want to romp through some single player content on your own, there are all those dungeons to explore.
Kos Luftar
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So, totally new events in LA?
Are all the WPs uncontested now?
Are all the WPs uncontested now?
That's a good idea.
Mr_Antimatter
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Asura...with dreadlocks? Spiked Mohawks?
I may have to pick up one of these kits...
I may have to pick up one of these kits...
Vigil Keep remains the hub for now, very interesting.
Didn't expect a new mini set, that'll give collectors some goodies to hunt in the off-weeks.
Now that the season is over, we're gonna run some more of the sort of guild/server events we did in the first months. Vyrance mentioned to me that some night this week, we may be teaming up with another guild for an old-fashioned blitz of the Orr temples. Details as we get them!
Please don't hesitate to contact me if you have an idea for an event or are interested in running one and need help from the officers.
Can't argue with that
Didn't expect a new mini set, that'll give collectors some goodies to hunt in the off-weeks.
Now that the season is over, we're gonna run some more of the sort of guild/server events we did in the first months. Vyrance mentioned to me that some night this week, we may be teaming up with another guild for an old-fashioned blitz of the Orr temples. Details as we get them!
Please don't hesitate to contact me if you have an idea for an event or are interested in running one and need help from the officers.
LA is fucking depressing now. No events that I've seen, just really sad music, mass graves and chunks of the drilling platform everywhere.
shysaursoft
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So how long before people complain this update has no achievements.
Hmmmm, the norn finally get a hairstyle I've been wanting for a while now. Time to redo my Mesmer!Oh Ash....
Mistforged Hero's Greatsword
And that greatsword... It's a big scimitar. I wonder if the line in the side lights up?
Interesting
Edit: I see electricity coming out the pommel. Hmmmm
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