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Yeah I was voting for Kiel until I saw that....
Who Abaddon was for those who didn't play GW1:
He'll probably like the Candidate Trials. It's jus' killin'.
So it is for us all. I want to give Ellen my vote and I like the WP thing, and I'm really curious about the reactor explosion but the story of the war of the gods would be too cool to pass up...
theMrCravens
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We are nearly reaching the month of the anniversary of GW2, and what we get are politics.
I was hoping for an Elder Dragon invasion at this point.
I was hoping for an Elder Dragon invasion at this point.
We are nearly reaching the month of the anniversary of GW2, and what we get are politics.
I was hoping for an Elder Dragon invasion at this point.
The Living Story is going to lead to Elder Dragons at some point. They're still in the setup phase for characters as we don't have a Sylvari or Asura yet for the new Destiny's Edge.
Kos Luftar
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Holy fuck at all the back items, I'm sorry I know we complained that there wasn't enough at the beginning but now it is becoming absurd. If they keep this up they need to give us a back item bank collection slot.
The only activity I will play and hopefully with our guild (we can compete who gets most points) is the Candidates Trails Challenge because it sounds like the GW1 challenge missions and I assume we will still be using our own skills and builds.
The Aspect Challenge one is stupid, the skills still do not work right, especially #3 you ground target it where the target is green yet you miss the jump...
Hunger Royal was kinda interesting during the beta but again I really hate learning random new skills that have nothing to do with my character just for an activity.
Still might play them all for whatever achievement I can get from them and then never ever ever touch them again.
Holy shit at the Fall of Abbadon Avon Barksdale has got my vote.
Does this mean they changed their mind on Aetherblade and Molten Facility or is that still happening.
I find it really strange that they would build two fractal dungeons but only release one of them...hope they change their mind.
With the inclusion of the new fractal I think they should retire one or two of them, specifically the underwater one and maybe the unstable fractal (maw).
The only activity I will play and hopefully with our guild (we can compete who gets most points) is the Candidates Trails Challenge because it sounds like the GW1 challenge missions and I assume we will still be using our own skills and builds.
The Aspect Challenge one is stupid, the skills still do not work right, especially #3 you ground target it where the target is green yet you miss the jump...
Hunger Royal was kinda interesting during the beta but again I really hate learning random new skills that have nothing to do with my character just for an activity.
Still might play them all for whatever achievement I can get from them and then never ever ever touch them again.
Holy shit at the Fall of Abbadon Avon Barksdale has got my vote.
Does this mean they changed their mind on Aetherblade and Molten Facility or is that still happening.
I find it really strange that they would build two fractal dungeons but only release one of them...hope they change their mind.
With the inclusion of the new fractal I think they should retire one or two of them, specifically the underwater one and maybe the unstable fractal (maw).
Relax Cravens, or do whatever it is where you don't necessarily relax but wait patiently.
Couple notes:
Couple notes:
- "If you bring your kite to the Guild Armorer, he can convert your kite to one that displays your guild emblem...for a cost!"
- Luipicus in 21 seconds (dat Phase 2)
- GW2hub is accepting community questions for Colin if interested
- And watch the campaign attack ad videos, they are funny.
Don't be announcing my bidness on the streets yo.
Can't Evon just win already? We all know Kiel is the obvious choice so lets actually alter the game and let him win!
I dunno. I think the voting is wide open at this point. Though I liked Kiel calling out Gnashblade in her video for selling Consortium goods in the gem store, I thought they would just let that go
Erm, Dark Knight Returns the animated movie?
Erm, Dark Knight Returns the animated movie?
Hell no.
I think I've seen it 20 times in the last two months. I'm addicted to it as much as GW2.
Did you see the move or read the comic? (or both!)
Kos Luftar
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I dunno. I think the voting is wide open at this point. Though I liked Kiel calling out Gnashblade in her video for selling Consortium goods in the gem store, I thought they would just let that go
She calls him out yet she is also working with them to bring a special fractal into rotation.
You really think the UNDERWATER fractal is interesting?
Of course she is working with them openly and has been since after her first undercover assignment. She was asked to by the Lionguard. The BLTC is nominally in competition with the Consortium and Evon is double-dealing!
I love the underwater fractal, especially being a dolphin. I love dolphins. The boss is atrociously boring but that is cause for changing the boss not eliminating an entire mini-dungeon. In total it's an extremely quick and fun fractal. More importantly, the addition of new fractals shouldn't mean that old ones disappear. The pool of options should just grow more and more over time. Anyway I like all of the fractals, but if I had to eliminate one it would be dredge with no hesitation. I enjoy the boss(es) a lot but don't really find anything in the lead-up to them to be that interesting, and they require so much coordination once you do get there that the time can really start to pile up, especially with new players. I'd love it if you just started in the tunnel leading up to the boss. As it stands if you get Dredge for fractal 3 you're potentially doubling the length of the run.
Complistic
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I"ve no idea how they keep putting out these fantastic updates so quickly. The updates every 2 weeks are now better than the updates every month we used to get.
Kos Luftar
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You are so selfish.
You think we should keep the boring underwater fractal just because you like dolphins? You are crazy, Mr. the Blade.
Complistic
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water and swamp are best fractals.
It's funny, but I think robert designed both of them too.
It's funny, but I think robert designed both of them too.
actually you should capitalize the T but yes this otherwise is acceptable to me.
edit: Hrouda definitely did swamp. Can't remember if underwater.
Kos Luftar
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Sounds like a good plan to me.
Weltall Zero
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I love dolphins too and support Hawkian's idea of tweaking the boss. It's actually a quite great boss fight, in fact, just chop its health in half.
I don't want any fractal out, even the dredge. Tweak that one too. As Hawkian says, the more fractals we have, the less each individual one appears, so even when one of your least favorite pops up it's "well, I've not done this in a while, let's see how we do" rather than "gah, not this again".
I don't want any fractal out, even the dredge. Tweak that one too. As Hawkian says, the more fractals we have, the less each individual one appears, so even when one of your least favorite pops up it's "well, I've not done this in a while, let's see how we do" rather than "gah, not this again".
Kos Luftar
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What are we to do when there are like 20 fractal dungeons and you have to try 5 times to actually get the dungeon you want to do?
If you are asking "I want to do the newest fractals because I want to experience them":
A: Just be patient and reload/roll or wait to run into it?
If you are asking "I want to do an easy fractal first (like swamp, water) but now there are so many?"
A: Chances are the candidates for "starting" fractals will increase as more are added? Right now 4 of the 7 are rather easy and 2 are so much so that people will roll for them (Water, Swamp). Why wouldn't we expect similar variability in difficulty with new additions? The candidates for easy starts would increase, the number of annoying dredge-level fractals will increase.
A: Just be patient and reload/roll or wait to run into it?
If you are asking "I want to do an easy fractal first (like swamp, water) but now there are so many?"
A: Chances are the candidates for "starting" fractals will increase as more are added? Right now 4 of the 7 are rather easy and 2 are so much so that people will roll for them (Water, Swamp). Why wouldn't we expect similar variability in difficulty with new additions? The candidates for easy starts would increase, the number of annoying dredge-level fractals will increase.
The increase in the number of fractals will make it more difficult to do precisely that, which is how the dungeon is designed and exactly how it should be.
edit: Flutes in the Gem Shop as well as the kites
Kos Luftar
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OK guys I will not complain about Fractals...I guess I am just over reacting to the fact that that squid monster takes forever to kill even if you use the electric cages.
I think it would be awesome if the Maw fractal didn't happen always maybe they can add another boss fractal that and show up randomly. If you guys remember playing GW1 Nightfall end boss (ie killing Abbadon) it is set up quite nicely to be a replacement for the Maw. Either or it is nice to have another fractal.
Does this mean they are not including the Aetherblade and Molten Alliance then? Maybe they are going to go with a story teller type of character that will let you know what happened and give you access to those dungeons.
I think it would be awesome if the Maw fractal didn't happen always maybe they can add another boss fractal that and show up randomly. If you guys remember playing GW1 Nightfall end boss (ie killing Abbadon) it is set up quite nicely to be a replacement for the Maw. Either or it is nice to have another fractal.
Does this mean they are not including the Aetherblade and Molten Alliance then? Maybe they are going to go with a story teller type of character that will let you know what happened and give you access to those dungeons.
They could also limit certain fractals to higher tiers. Add the new one to levels 10+ for example.
As for Evon vs Ellen, though that Abbadon fractal does sound great, one of his options is the same as Ellen, and the Black Lion Keys still cost me actual money, or at the very least my precious gold, which I don't care for.
Ellen for me.
Plus, you know, RNG coffers. Thanks a lot for those, Evon.
EDIT: Also, do we know for sure that the Fall of Abaddon is the actual war with the Gods, or is it just what players did in GW1 nightfall?
As for Evon vs Ellen, though that Abbadon fractal does sound great, one of his options is the same as Ellen, and the Black Lion Keys still cost me actual money, or at the very least my precious gold, which I don't care for.
Ellen for me.
Plus, you know, RNG coffers. Thanks a lot for those, Evon.
EDIT: Also, do we know for sure that the Fall of Abaddon is the actual war with the Gods, or is it just what players did in GW1 nightfall?
Zod the Bear
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I was going to vote for Team Human, but the 4 week deal is really a wash for me so it comes down to the Fractal.
Gnashblade it is.
Gnashblade it is.
People are still gonna do that.
And I just thought of a more effective way! Each member of the team splits off solo and starts their own fractal. 5x quicker!
Kos Luftar
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Hopefully Colin will shed some light into it today, if not they always do those live streams of the new update the day before it launches so hopefully they will preview them...but I have a feeling these new fractals will not be available July 23rd because we still have to vote...maybe they will show up in the first week of August.
Yeah, I'd definitely put them towards the end of the year. The site does say " to be completed by the end of the year", mostly to cover their ass I'm sure, but still. I wonder if they've even started on them. If they have, I'd imagine we'll get both somehow, eventually. If not, we really might get just one.
The more I think about it, the more I really hope Ellen wins. There's very little lore behind the Thaumanova Reactor, but what is there sounds amazing. I really want to see what happened there. Even though the fall of Abbadon isn't in GW1 or GW2, the lore is established and we know what happened. Would be awesome to see, but I'm more interested in something completely new.
You know some crazy shit happened there for it to have such a massive effect. I wonder if it had anything to do with the Goddess Lyssa, what with the chaos magic.
Kos Luftar
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I stopped reading after "Fall of Abbadon" and skipped on to the next line..lol.
I have a feeling that the Thumanova Reactor has something to do with the Inquest researching the power of the dragons and trying to harness them so they can use them themselves. All the different areas of the reactor also relate to the dragons that we know.
Jest Chillin
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Complistic
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So what time will colin be answering questions, and can i get a link to where it'll be at?
Jest Chillin
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2014? Can I borrow your time machine? I want to see what another year of Living Story looks like... ooh, and find out when Starbound comes out so I can plan around that.
I don't think they're building both; they're having the election and then building whichever wins. That's why I don't think we'll see the actual updates until the autumn.We know each Living Story team has 8 weeks to work; if the voting process ends on the 6th, that would be all of August and September to work on it, with the results coming in October, probably right before the Mad King event revs up.
As to retiring Fractals, I think they should keep them, but tweak how they're selected. Some of the least interesting Fractals have a lower weighting so you see them less often, while the newer ones have a higher weighting so you see them more often. Eventually, when they have enough fractals, you'd get something like the underwater or unstable fractal and go "Ah, yeah, I haven't done this one in forever" and maybe not hate it so much.
It took them a little more than half a year to launch, switch to a Service rather than Development studio (no small task), get themselves set up to deliver content on a bi-weekly schedule, and experiment with various releases to find what works and what doesn't. We're about a year into the game and it feels like, despite a few stumbles, they're hitting their stride.
One of the alternative thread titles was "We're just getting started..." but it was too inside-y for my tastes and didn't get much traction with the folks I ran it past. I like the one we have, but that really does sum up the game at this point.
You watch too much South Park man
It took them a little more than half a year to launch, switch to a Service rather than Development studio (no small task), get themselves set up to deliver content on a bi-weekly schedule, and experiment with various releases to find what works and what doesn't. We're about a year into the game and it feels like, despite a few stumbles, they're hitting their stride.
One of the alternative thread titles was "We're just getting started..." but it was too inside-y for my tastes and didn't get much traction with the folks I ran it past. I like the one we have, but that really does sum up the game at this point.
I'm really curious about it too. You can see the thing that they were playing with when the explosion happened in stable form in the Toxal Bog base in Brisban, but what exactly were they trying to do? What's with all the portals and especially the rampaging steam ogre on top?
The thing is, the Fall of Abbadon, which we know all about as you said, would be undoubtedly epic in scope. And take place on or around the Crystal Sea, which would be awesome. So it's sort of like that would definitely be cool, whereas we don't know what the reactor's story was but it could be awesome.
It's a wash for me. I like everything else about Kiel more. She's genuine, whereas Gnashblade is actually making me a little suspicious. Though if it's just greed I can't really begrudge him that. And I'll take the WP reduction if even for a month.
edit: Stream is live!
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