WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
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That's what I'm sayin'. Quentin season keeps on giving.Still looking forward to VFT6. I hope all this BS fuels him (or his ghostwriters) to make something great.
MoodyFog
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Like Esch said, it makes sense for hits. But if I find out a song like You & The 6 was ghostwritten, then I'd just laugh my ass off.
Still looking forward to VFT6. I hope all this BS fuels him (or his ghostwriters) to make something great.
Writer's room is prolly
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
lmaoWriter's room is prollyright now
Syph Medwes
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yall ready know i was gonna post it
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Byakuya769
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Don't diss, tweet.
New school rappers.
New school rappers.
Luther got them bars though...
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PhoenixDark
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Breh did you see that Drake>Hov thread on the Coli. Dudes were legitimately making the argument, comparing their first 3-4 albums. I had to log off for the day and listen to country music to cleanse myself of urban fuckery.
I'll give Drake props for his winning streak; dude might be on the most commercially successful run of any (black) rapper. Everything he touches charts, he's going plat without singles, dude is just winning right now.
But the more he succeeds the more I feel compelled to compare him to the greats....and he just doesn't match up on any level. Maybe you could say he has the best hooks or whatever but then again 90s rap often had different types of hooks compared to today.
Maybe you could say Jay had the best raps or whatever but then again modern rap often has different types of raps in comparison to the 90s.
Syph Medwes
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Lol it's pretty simple, just compare Thank Me Later to any decent debut
doesn't even come close
pretty laughable actually
beanman25
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cool man, thanks!
Storm Chamber
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I started paying attention yesterday. He's hilarious
I laughed, then I realized that this was real.
Face it Tiger..
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how you gonna get ethered by a producer tho?
He not comparable to any of the greats really. I think Take Care is a borderline almost there type effort but when I rustle back through it i walk away like There's not a single standout moment in his career where i really take a look at him and think damn, you really are up there with the best, you're one of the best rappers to bless a microphone. I can't really think of a single time I heard him spit something so ridiculous that I run it back a couple times to really think about it or just cause it hits me deep. Just in terms of writing or rapping. As an overall musician Drake's pretty good, but he's not a gawd emcee.
What I really like Drake for is some of the energy he brings on guest verses or throwaways. He's a more personal rapper than can operate on trap shit and make it seem less generic.
exactly
Ice Cube the fucking gawd prayeremoji
Well the extent of which is what people are wondering about. This will blow over though and VFT6 will sell 2 million copies and get good reviews. I'm just hoping it's finally Drake's great album (for me at least).
Certainly looks like the trajectory.
At least I don't feel like anyone has owned an era so clearly as Drake has this one in a long time. Dude is the perfect storm in so many ways.
I think Drake is kind of missing that moment but I also think with the amount of music that's pushed to us now it's kind of hard to extract that as it doesn't have time to settle. I don't even really feel Kendrick has had one of those moments. Would you consider shooting in the gym that moment? Bullets that fire backwards? Control? They may as well be, or maybe that accolade takes the form of consistently reminding you that I'm a force to be reckon with and artists and OGs bending over from going "he's not that nice" to "yeah Drake is one of my favourites."He not comparable to any of the greats really. I think Take Care is a borderline almost there type effort but when I rustle back through it i walk away like There's not a single standout moment in his career where i really take a look at him and think damn, you really are up there with the best, you're one of the best rappers to bless a microphone. I can't really think of a single time I heard him spit something so ridiculous that I run it back a couple times to really think about it or just cause it hits me deep. Just in terms of writing or rapping. As an overall musician Drake's pretty good, but he's not a gawd emcee.
What I really like Drake for is some of the energy he brings on guest verses or throwaways. He's a more personal rapper than can operate on trap shit and make it seem less generic.
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He's undebatably one of the greatest of all time as an artist and I'm pretty glad we're at a point where the accomplishments speak for themselves and we don't have to argue over that. But I think where it really breaks down is his legacy as an MC being framed up against guys who do what they did for their era in that way, usually very aggressively attacking a beat, and I think every MC should be treated within their own context. For Drake that's the relatibility, content diversity factor and the barrage of opposition he's overcome that puts him up there. He might not touch my soul like Cube and Pac did, but the work is there IMO.
Syph Medwes
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drake's greatest contribution was giving us the weeknd
while his influence is A-tier, he'll be remembered as a high B-list rapper imo
not that I don't enjoy a lot of his stuff
but can you even with half a straight face imagine putting his name alongside some of the greats as far as quality goes? didn't think so
while his influence is A-tier, he'll be remembered as a high B-list rapper imo
not that I don't enjoy a lot of his stuff
but can you even with half a straight face imagine putting his name alongside some of the greats as far as quality goes? didn't think so
As an artist? Naw. Take Care is probably the only album I feel is overwhelmingly praised. I think his influence and popularity is undeniable. Shit, you can say the dude is pretty much in control of where the rap game heads and his content is solid enough. It still feels like Drake's greatalbum has to come. Nothing Was The Same and Reading This leave us close to 4 years out. He's killed some verses and released a couple of good songs here and there but that won't cut it. We need one singular full body of work that is completely realized artistically. Which is why Take Care comes close but that shit is way too inconsistent and poppy for myself.
Honestly, he can be a great artist but he hasn't made something where I say he's one of the greats. This is all personal of course.
Honestly, he can be a great artist but he hasn't made something where I say he's one of the greats. This is all personal of course.
PhoenixDark
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Can I shit on Ab Soul one more time? I was listening to Dead Presidents 3 for some reason and realized I forgot about this
I ain't waiting for my knee to blow
Yesterday I was needing this dough
Get it, kneading/needing this dough
That's what I'm talking about. That's how you do it. Flab Soul and Toku, take this L.
I ain't waiting for my knee to blow
Yesterday I was needing this dough
Get it, kneading/needing this dough
That's what I'm talking about. That's how you do it. Flab Soul and Toku, take this L.
Now this is someone who would benefit from a ghostwriter
For me, Kendrick has a couple of those moments. It didn't really materialize in a single song for me till GKMC (Sing About Me) but already on section 80 he was showing off a combo of crazy wordplay, subject matter and flashes of brilliance in overall technical breadth and depth. When people started taking Drake a little more seriously as a rapper I think it was in between Take Care and NWTS and he started dropping more fire throwaway tracks on soundcloud and his radio dominance became clear. Anyway Marvin's Room might be that moment for him, maybe.
undebateable greatest of all time artist
Barrage of opposition? He already had a presence and contacts in the entertainment industry before he ever dropped a verse. His mixtapes had Kanye West, 9th Wonder, Boi-1da production.... Lil Wayne, Bun features... Compare that to say, Hov himself, who was getting kicked out of A&R meetings and had to actually sell drugs to muster enough money to break into the music industry. Of course there were a lot of heads sticking up their nose at Drake, but they don't matter too much in a market sense and haven't since the 90s.
Either way IMO he's not seeing Jay on trajectory, he has no Reasonable Doubt level album and I don't really see him dropping a Blueprint either really.
I'm more split on this than I was before, which was Take Care >>> NWTS.
All I can really say is NWTS has better album cuts but worse singles, and I also take notches away for being kind of the start of some of the less than stellar go-to flows Drake has been using since.
TBH I've been coming around to Thank Me Later too. Well, half of it. It's not cohesive but it's not supposed to be. You forget how many damn smashes there are on there.
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