Tarnpanzer
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Exactly my first thought when I looked at the footage from DF. John plays in 4K/Performance and the picture looks really crappy.
Half-Life 2 RTX demo coming out on March 18
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Exactly my first thought when I looked at the footage from DF. John plays in 4K/Performance and the picture looks really crappy.
Thebonehead
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worldwithpyramids
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Before looks way better.
mèx
Member
It looks really nice... when the lighting from the lamps is not blasted at full brightness. It feels a bit overdone.
The remastered assets are pretty good in general, they stay true to the original while looking vastly better.
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simpatico
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I can't think of a GPU series that had less time at the top than the 3000 RTX cards. IDK how people invest in 5000s knowing how the 3 buyers got got. It was never really enough to run the best games of it's era (Cyberpunk). Was unneeded for the games of the previous era. And if these threads are to be believed, is damn near useless to GFX enthusiasts in the proceeding era.
Bojji
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3080 still has raw power but not enough vram for some settings but:
- 3080 12GB, 3080ti are still fine
- 3090/ti will be fine for quite some time
The 3000 series had two whole years at the top and over 4 years later the 3080 is still perfectly usable at 1440p w/DLSS. I ran Cyberpunk on it with PT enabled.
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Moses85
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ricardo_sousa11
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Looks stunning!
SonicVolcano
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Does it have HDR?
Magic Carpet
Gold Member
Is this the entire game or just that one Ravenholm level?
Agent_4Seven
Tears of Nintendo
Half-Life 2 RTX Demo Path Tracing & DLSS 4 Benchmarks
NVIDIA has provided us with a preview code, so it's time to benchmark Half-Life 2 RTX Demo and examine its performance on the PC.
www.dsogaming.com
Not going to even bother touchin' this BS.
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yamaci17
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it is max settings, path tracing can scale quite nicely if you are after performance
well then if you don't like max settings even struggling to run on 5090, they're really there to make the future 6090 shine. that is how this has always been with ray tracing/path tracing. if those settings weren't there, the game wouldn't scale nicely for future hardware and you would feel better about it? settings and their labels are arbitrary. they could call medium settings that would run 60 FPS at 1440p on a 3070 with DLSS the ultra one and that setting would run at 120 FPS at 4K DLSS with 4090. would that change anything? I don't think so
look at something like portal 2 rtx where 3090/4080 struggled with max settings and 4 bounces. 5080 and 5090 can handle them greatly.
well then if you don't like max settings even struggling to run on 5090, they're really there to make the future 6090 shine. that is how this has always been with ray tracing/path tracing. if those settings weren't there, the game wouldn't scale nicely for future hardware and you would feel better about it? settings and their labels are arbitrary. they could call medium settings that would run 60 FPS at 1440p on a 3070 with DLSS the ultra one and that setting would run at 120 FPS at 4K DLSS with 4090. would that change anything? I don't think so
look at something like portal 2 rtx where 3090/4080 struggled with max settings and 4 bounces. 5080 and 5090 can handle them greatly.
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Schmendrick
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so what exactly did you expect from a pathtraced title that you call this completely normal hardware hunger "BS"? It´s a tech showcase....Half-Life 2 RTX Demo Path Tracing & DLSS 4 Benchmarks
NVIDIA has provided us with a preview code, so it's time to benchmark Half-Life 2 RTX Demo and examine its performance on the PC.
Not going to even bother touchin' this BS.
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Buggy Loop
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Half-Life 2 RTX Demo Path Tracing & DLSS 4 Benchmarks
NVIDIA has provided us with a preview code, so it's time to benchmark Half-Life 2 RTX Demo and examine its performance on the PC.
Not going to even bother touchin' this BS.
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Path tracing is never gonna run native anytime soon. It's on par with almost everything else path traced that isn't looking like Quake 2.
And voila
I played Portal RTX with a 3080 Ti. The RTX remix gives a ton of options to optimize settings. No you don't need 4 bounces for cohesive lighting. No you don't need everything max settings. Yes you do need upscaler for sure.
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Agent_4Seven
Tears of Nintendo
Nothing more, nothing less. Completely pointless endeavor almost no one will be able to experience with good performance in modern screen resolutions. It's like here's the best version of Half-Life 2 you won't be able to play for years to come and it's the same exact game you finished dozens of times, just prettier.
Imho, if you want to do something like this, at least do it when the time is right and there's no overpriced hardware available for everyone to buy and experience new features and visuals, like Sony did with Demon's Souls. But instead, we have what we have and it's hard (if not impossible) to care about it. Same goes for Portal RTX.
I just can't see the point in all this if you can't play it like Demon's Souls on the PS5.
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Bojji
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Half-Life 2 RTX Demo Path Tracing & DLSS 4 Benchmarks
NVIDIA has provided us with a preview code, so it's time to benchmark Half-Life 2 RTX Demo and examine its performance on the PC.
Not going to even bother touchin' this BS.
Portal is still the most heavy PT game for some reason so it's not surprising.
AMD performance...
apple_of_enlightenment
Member
So ray tracing makes things brighter?
Bullshots.
Bullshots.
Xdrive05
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Seems to run noticeably better than Portal RTX for me! Not sure why - maybe they've improved their performance penalties of the Remix suite? Mostly around 70-80fps at 1440p DLSS Performance (so about 736p internal the way they do this) using the Transformer model of DLSS, which is the only way to make this low resolution look great on a 1440p monitor. I WAS able to get it to drop under 60fps in two places in Ravenholm though, even with that aggressive DLSS. Got down to the low 50s in fact in one place. That would be the fire hallway before the electric fence courtyard, when all fire effects were lit up and it was full of zombies.
Also there might be a VRAM memory leak? My 16 GB 4060 TI would load the level at around 7GB of usage but would slowly end up over 13GB before getting to the next loading screen just 15 minutes later or so.
I'm very impressed with the quality of the path tracing and the artistry they put into the revamped models and assets. Staggeringly beautiful and I hope the rest of the game will have just as much attention put into it.
Also there might be a VRAM memory leak? My 16 GB 4060 TI would load the level at around 7GB of usage but would slowly end up over 13GB before getting to the next loading screen just 15 minutes later or so.
I'm very impressed with the quality of the path tracing and the artistry they put into the revamped models and assets. Staggeringly beautiful and I hope the rest of the game will have just as much attention put into it.
IbizaPocholo
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Buggy Loop
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Schmendrick
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It´s highly scalable and you have obviously not understood the point of RTX Remix which this one is a showcase for.....
If you want to max it out you`ll need high end hardware, that is perfectly normal
incoherent offtopic rambling....
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Buggy Loop
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In a 2004 game that was tech limited for its time, sure. Half Life 2 was of course not with physically based rendering (PBR) phase which came more in ~2013 and this means texture have no material properties for specular highlight, material roughness, etc.
Or baked lighting which as seen here, doesn't even light up the gun right under a light
For the times its brighter because there's an actual dynamic light source and no longer baked, its also darker when it makes sense and doesn't have that weird carboard look lighting when there's not even a light source nearby that would give this effect even in the original. The "floaty/gamey" lighting of old where everything seems evenly lit.
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Agent_4Seven
Tears of Nintendo
What is there to not understand? It's tech demo first and foremost to make people buy overpriced hardware which can't even run it in native resolutions. In my eyes it's completely pointless for years to come.
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Why would anyone play at native if they could get better or equivalent image quality and more performance, with upscaling?
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Schmendrick
Member
Sounds like you´re just generally sour and are literally taking it out on a piece of unrelated software.
RTX Remix is doing an amazing job here and the power this free-to-use tool gives fans to do whatever they want with other games of that era is seriously crazy.
And all you can think is "this is an ad"
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Gonzito
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And the UI is tiny, did they even bother to do some testing for this? Man what a joke
Agent_4Seven
Tears of Nintendo
I'm not saying it isn't, I'm saying that the time is not even close to being right for release of such tech demos. Like, why should I care even if for years to come there won't be hardware capable to offer adequate performance at 4K at least? Does it look good? Yes? Why should I care at this point in time? I'm not DF to jerk off on every piece of light, texture or model for 1,5 hours.
Alan Wake II already showed what PT can do and Ninja Theory already showed that you can do without and still have one of the best looking games ever made people can actually play without upscaling and with it with good performance.
yamaci17
Gold Member
I will test and see if 3070 8 GB ends up being a problem or not
sometimes games cache more to get more consistent 1% lows. could be such a case
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
It's free, so yeah.
The time is right for those who can and want to play it.
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Agent_4Seven
Tears of Nintendo
They'll have the worst experience ever, unlike those who just going to wait for the right time in 2035-2040. Moreover, there's nothing new there except visuals unlike recent remakes of RE and this year's SH2. It's good that it's free at least.
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rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
They can play now and play again in 2035~2040.
RafterXL
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It's crazy how many of y'all don't understand ray tracing.
Miles708
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It's a lot of effort for subpar results, of course people don't "understand" ray tracing.