Half-Life 3 is in the Final Phase of Development – Rumour

100% it's coming with the Steam Machine. Been saying this the moment that device was announced.
Oh you mean as a bundle? Yeah sure, I can see that.

Will be weird to have their flagship title, one of the most anticipated games of all time, be running at a mere 60fps with medium settings at an upscaled resolution though lol.
 
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Oh you mean as a bundle? Yeah sure, I can see that.

Will be weird to have their flagship title, one of the most anticipated games of all time, be running at a mere 60fps with medium settings at an upscaled resolution though lol.
So now 60FPS is not good anymore?

Also, this isn't Unreal 5, this will prob be a tailored made engine and prob very optimized.
 
So now 60FPS is not good anymore?

Also, this isn't Unreal 5, this will prob be a tailored made engine and prob very optimized.
It's 100% Source 2 engine with some upgrades.
So it should run well even on older hardware.
I just hope we get some extra eye candy for better than steam machine hardware, like more or better RT.
 
So now 60FPS is not good anymore?

Also, this isn't Unreal 5, this will prob be a tailored made engine and prob very optimized.
I mean on TV it's fine I guess but that's literally the bare minimum these days. 144hz monitors are so ubiquitous that I suspect most expect to run their games at least at 120fps or above.

UE5 isn't an excuse either, I run Arc Raiders on high settings at 130-165fps on 1440p. Granted that's with FSR 4 but considering how sharp the game still looks and how minimal the visual impact is overall I'm very happy with that. I'd go to native AA and dial back some settings if it meant I had to use FSR 3 or lower though, that shits ass.
 
I mean on TV it's fine I guess but that's literally the bare minimum these days. 144hz monitors are so ubiquitous that I suspect most expect to run their games at least at 120fps or above.

UE5 isn't an excuse either, I run Arc Raiders on high settings at 130-165fps on 1440p. Granted that's with FSR 4 but considering how sharp the game still looks and how minimal the visual impact is overall I'm very happy with that. I'd go to native AA and dial back some settings if it meant I had to use FSR 3 or lower though, that shits ass.
The huge majority of folks are completely fine with 60 FPS as it's smooth enough for most people and most people still uses 1080P anyway.
 
So now 60FPS is not good anymore?

Also, this isn't Unreal 5, this will prob be a tailored made engine and prob very optimized.
For real, most people don't give a crap about 4K or 120 FPS , 240 FPS or whatever. 60 FPS would be fine for a huge percentages of people whether it's on tv or a monitor. And most people would be fine with med settings as long as the game looks great enough and aren't worried about upping up every possible setting to the max either.
 
I actually thought that Alyx lived up to the hype... it could have been called HL3 and it wouldn't bother me. It was a gigantic leap in the experience of that universe, and absolutely incredible in its polish and attention to detail.
Yeah Half Life Alyx looks amazing and I think it'll be good enough to most if Half Life 3 looks like that graphic wise. Besides the graphics better way better than part 2. They also have more vibrant colors to them making it seem like a mix of 1 and 2. Half Life 3 is guaranteed to be both vr and non VR too in order to get the majority of the players in. So it's going to be a giant success.
 
For real, most people don't give a crap about 4K or 120 FPS , 240 FPS or whatever. 60 FPS would be fine for a huge percentages of people whether it's on tv or a monitor. And most people would be fine with med settings as long as the game looks great enough and aren't worried about upping up every possible setting to the max either.
To be fair, most people don't even have a high refresh rate monitor. Worst of all, many believe (after experiencing > 100 FPS on a 60Hz screen) there's won't be any difference even if their monitor was 120Hz+, and thus they refuse to upgrade, sometimes spreading nonsense online, claiming they're right and that the people with high refresh monitors were brainwashed.
 
To be fair, most people don't even have a high refresh rate monitor. Worst of all, many believe (after experiencing > 100 FPS on a 60Hz screen) there's won't be any difference even if their monitor was 120Hz+, and thus they refuse to upgrade, sometimes spreading nonsense online, claiming they're right and that the people with high refresh monitors were brainwashed.
I think everyone or at least a lot of people could tell the difference between 60 fps and higher fps just like people could tell the differences between 1080p and 4k.

It's just a big percent don't care for it as 60fps is more than enough for most people, same with 1080p and 1440p.

1080p is the most used and is just recently moving towards 1440p. Even in 5 years, I doubt 4k monitors would become the majority perhaps in another decade. But 60fps would be fine for most still even a decade or more from now.
 
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If it doesn't get announced this year it'll be another clear sign to never trust any of these "Insider claims", and if Valve releasing their own system isn't motivation enough to reveal HL3 (which they always said they used to push medium forward) nothing ever will be
 


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Oh you mean as a bundle? Yeah sure, I can see that.

Will be weird to have their flagship title, one of the most anticipated games of all time, be running at a mere 60fps with medium settings at an upscaled resolution though lol.
Source 2 is brilliantly optimised, do not worry little one
 
TENEIGHTYPEE???

My brother it's 2025. Even phones have higher resolutions. :messenger_weary:
He's factually right though, according to Steam Hardware Surveys. Most people don't care about more than 60 hz for their displays, and 1080p is far and away the most common resolution. I'm in the middle, as I've still got 1080 in a few rooms in the house, but I do 4k in the game room and 1440p on all capable PC's throughout the house, (still the sweet spot and I don't see that changing), but I have to say that I really don't think 1080p looks bad at all, and I'd still wager that most casual gamers can't tell the difference between 1080p and 4k, they just see it all as "good." My daughter has a 1080p for her setup despite having a 4060 in her machine, and it honestly looks great.

I kinda think that all of us, myself included, attribute too much importance to resolution.
 
Obviously, there's a difference between "the majority of folks are okay with 1080p" and "I am okay with 1080p and you should be, too". We're members of a dedicated video game forum; of course we're going to be skewed towards wanting high res & high framerate. Doesn't change the fact most casual players don't notice or care if something isn't 4K 120fps+.
 
Obviously, there's a difference between "the majority of folks are okay with 1080p" and "I am okay with 1080p and you should be, too". We're members of a dedicated video game forum; of course we're going to be skewed towards wanting high res & high framerate. Doesn't change the fact most casual players don't notice or care if something isn't 4K 120fps+.
Absolutely yeah, this is what I was trying to communicate, I probably didn't say it properly.
 
TENEIGHTYPEE???

My brother it's 2025. Even phones have higher resolutions. :messenger_weary:
It doesn't matter what resolution the Phones have lol.

I'm just letting you know the majority of gamers are still on 1080p even in 2025 and are okay with 60fps. The huge majority of folks do not think like you about needing 4k 120 fps that's all I'm saying.



You can literally check online everywhere and it'll say 1080p is the most used still.
 
Doesn't change the fact most casual players don't notice or care if something isn't 4K 120fps+.

True.

And besides money problems, the reason why 1080p and 60fps is very solid for so many is because

The difference from 30 to 60 fps is more noticeable compared to 60 to 90. So 60 fps is already smooth and having it more smooth will just be a plus at that point

Same from 420p to 1080"p compared to 1080p and 4k . 1080p is already had and gets rid of the blurr from 420p. Having it be even more clear would just be a plus at that point.
 
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For real, most people don't give a crap about 4K or 120 FPS , 240 FPS or whatever. 60 FPS would be fine for a huge percentages of people whether it's on tv or a monitor. And most people would be fine with med settings as long as the game looks great enough and aren't worried about upping up every possible setting to the max either.
I almost always default to medium, any graphical improvements I notice the second I turn on ultra I forget about them after 5 mins, I rather have more stable fps
 
If it doesn't get announced this year it'll be another clear sign to never trust any of these "Insider claims", and if Valve releasing their own system isn't motivation enough to reveal HL3 (which they always said they used to push medium forward) nothing ever will be
And if does get announced this year you guys are just going to pretend that you didn't said shit like that and then proceed to do the same next time
 
It doesn't matter what resolution the Phones have lol.

I'm just letting you know the majority of gamers are still on 1080p even in 2025 and are okay with 60fps. The huge majority of folks do not think like you about needing 4k 120 fps that's all I'm saying.



You can literally check online everywhere and it'll say 1080p is the most used still.

The only content I still view in 1080p is anime. Imagine gaming in 1080p or watching films in that resolution still...

People are degenerates.
 
Reported for GPU misuse.

Gross GPU Negligence!
Not really, dude. I can spend the extra frames for better raytracing perfomance which is about 20-25 % instead of playing in 2k. I don't really care for higher res (maybe because i haven't seen 2k in action but whatever)
And for 4k the gpu is too slow anyways. Also my I7 11700k isn't really a powerhouse anymore.
 
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The only content I still view in 1080p is anime. Imagine gaming in 1080p or watching films in that resolution still...

People are degenerates.
Damn I guess the vast majority are degenerates lol.

Not really, dude. I can spend the extra frames for better raytracing perfomance which is about 20-25 % instead of playing in 2k. I don't really care for higher res (maybe because i haven't seen 2k in action but whatever)
And for 4k the gpu is too slow anyways. Also my I7 11700k isn't really a powerhouse anymore.
He's just trolling at this point.
 
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So that one insider still maintains a 2025 announcement. And he doubled down on it not being at Dorito Pope's ad show, so I guess that means the next week or the week after.
 
Oh you mean as a bundle? Yeah sure, I can see that.

Will be weird to have their flagship title, one of the most anticipated games of all time, be running at a mere 60fps with medium settings at an upscaled resolution though lol.
The machine is better than the majority who will have access to it on Steam. 🤷‍♀️
 
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The machine is better than the majorly who will have access to it on Steam. 🤷‍♀️
Yep and while I most likely won't get the Steam Box but as far as Half Life 3 and performance for it goes with the Steam Box.

A vast majority would be completely fine with it on non max settings, 60 fps, and 1080p. If it could get Half Life 3 with those settings than most people would be fine with it just like they already are for other games.

Now is the Steam box worth it for whatever price they put out, that's a whole other matter.
 
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The machine is better than the majority who will have access to it on Steam. 🤷‍♀️
You'd hope so considering the supposed price of the thing and the fact that, apparently, the majority of people still play at TENEIGHTYPEE. 😭

Will be interesting to see how something like HL3 performs on it. It will be perfectly fine of course but I still doubt that it will be 'the best place to play' HL3 at.
 
You'd hope so considering the supposed price of the thing and the fact that, apparently, the majority of people still play at TENEIGHTYPEE. 😭

Will be interesting to see how something like HL3 performs on it. It will be perfectly fine of course but I still doubt that it will be 'the best place to play' HL3 at.
Nobody said it would be the best place to play HL3. 🤷‍♀️
 
You'd hope so considering the supposed price of the thing and the fact that, apparently, the majority of people still play at TENEIGHTYPEE. 😭

Will be interesting to see how something like HL3 performs on it. It will be perfectly fine of course but I still doubt that it will be 'the best place to play' HL3 at.
Definitely won't be the best place to play it obviously. I mean if you have a 5090, 4K TV etc big surround sounds etc than why would you wanna play on a much weaker system.

Just that for a huge majority of folks the Steam box would be good enough in non max setting, 1080p, and 60fps cause most people aren't the type that goes full max on all setting, 120fps, 200fps or 1 trillion fps whatever and 4KKKKK.
 
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Game Awards music and lights suddenly go off...

Gabe walks up on Stage...


Gabe: You know guys, we can count to three

-*Orange Box in a black background shows up*

-*Orange Box slowly turns and shows the number 3.*

-*Multiple Characters show up in the box like in the Marvel movies title logo*

Cuts to Black...


Portal 3 2026

Team Fortress 3 2026

Half Life 3 Q 2026

Left 4 Dead 3 2027

Dota 3 2027



Crowd goes bananas.
 
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I actually thought that Alyx lived up to the hype... it could have been called HL3 and it wouldn't bother me. It was a gigantic leap in the experience of that universe, and absolutely incredible in its polish and attention to detail.
But that was because they took advantage of the VR medium, they had plenty to work with to innovate with mechanics that are just not possible in a flatscreen game. Proof of that is how the non-VR mods butcher the experience.

By going backwards to flatscreen, I seriously doubt HL3 will have something seriously impressive, even if the stuff about the AI and advanced physics and thermodynamics is true.
 
Game Awards music and lights suddenly go off...

Gabe walks up on Stage...


Gabe: You know guys, we can count to three

-*Orange Box in a black background shows up*

-*Orange Box slowly turns and shows the number 3.*

-*Multiple Characters show up in the box life in the Marvel Movies Title Logo*

Cuts to Black...


Portal 3 2026

Team Fortress 3 2026

Half Life 3 Q2 2026

Left 4 Dead 3 2027

Dota 3 2027



Crowd goes bananas.
That would be a huge awesome surprise if during all this time they were working on multiple big games at the same time and decides to announce them all like that.

Maybe a Counter Strike 3 too to complete the full combo.
 
But that was because they took advantage of the VR medium, they had plenty to work with to innovate with mechanics that are just not possible in a flatscreen game. Proof of that is how the non-VR mods butcher the experience.

By going backwards to flatscreen, I seriously doubt HL3 will have something seriously impressive, even if the stuff about the AI and advanced physics and thermodynamics is true.
ALyx was a niche side game while Half Life 3 is a huge big mainline mainstream game that they'll want as many people getting into it as possible. So not making it on the flatscreen which is over 95% of the potential buyers is going to be a huge no.

They could still easily go the RE7 route where it'll be made for both VR and normal mode cause it'll definitely have a VR version but they can't ignore the normal version since most people don't care about VR.

Plus the graphic and style of Alyx is a huge step from Half Life 2 and would definitely still be impressive to the masses and would still be seem as a huge improvement and upgrade over Part 2.
 
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