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Halo 2 expansion pack coming ? *GAF explodes*

I think there is a misunderstanding of whats happening. MS recognizes the fact that only a portion of Xbox gamers are online not the whole userbase. So they're releasing a disc version in the stores that will cost 30 bucks. The Xbox live suscribers would be getting theirs through "DLC". There is no cost to suscribers, now if don't want to wait for the download, you can go out to your local (EB,GS,GCrazy) and pick up a copy.

Its obvious why MS is spacing out the release of each MP level, its gonna require alot of bandwidth for when the levels are released.
 
OG_Original Gamer said:
Its obvious why MS is spacing out the release of each MP level, its gonna require alot of bandwidth for when the levels are released.
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i doubt it.
 
Hilarious!

1. They worked on it 'till it was a good as possible and they are sure it will be a good experience, they get killed for it.

2. They will make the maps available to everyone, also non-live players through a retail disc, they get killed for it.

3. According to this (quite possible faulty or inaccurate) information, no one HAS to buy anything, nor is it a fact yet that the disc will even cost money. Still, they get killed for it. (this all outside of the fact that it being free for Xbox Live subscribers who already pay money, and not free for non-live users who buy the (alleged) retail disc sounds as fair as it comes.)

Of course it's not their fault that most people are whiny bitches that aren't ever statisfied with anything and are so spoiled... :lol
 
Kobold said:
Hilarious!

1. They worked on it 'till it was a good as possible and they are sure it will be a good experience, they get killed for it.

2. They will make the maps available to everyone, also non-live players through a retail disc, they get killed for it.

3. According to this (quite possible faulty or inaccurate) information, no one HAS to buy anything, nor is it a fact yet that the disc will even cost money. Still, they get killed for it. (this all outside of the fact that it being free for Xbox Live subscribers who already pay money, and not free for non-live users who buy the (alleged) retail disc sounds as fair as it comes.)

Of course it's not their fault that most people are whiny bitches that aren't ever statisfied with anything and are so spoiled... :lol
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No, it's their fault that everything, including downloadable content, HAS TO BE A SECRET. Communication works wonderfully, and vague statements like those Frankie made today, certainly don't help squash rumors.

I loved Halo and Halo 2. They are two of my favorite games this generation. But enough is enough with all the secrecy even after the game is released.
 
I don't understand that. It's what WE make of it. We interpret what they say and don't say. Why it doesn't work, is because it's not their choice to keep it a secret, thusly it's not in fact a very well kept secret from which bits of information WILL leak creating I don't know what kind of hype and misunderstandings.

They should'nt have said anything at all, then just bring it out. But in a world where people don't interpret and speculate around like crazy it wouldnt matter. But this is a world where they do interpret and speculate around like crazy, then spontaniously believe all that speculations and interpretations! So yeah, their way to deal with it was not the best, but it's out of good will, (they don't want to keep a secret and want to get the knowledge and excitement out there) not because they want to asshump everyone into tomorrow, holding their dollars laughing. :)

But hey, it's not wrong to be mad, it's just useless because the false expectations are in our heads, not their. Their part in this was being the subject of scrutiny and interpretation, idolized and all that. Who ever knows how to handle that mindless illogical scrutiny... :)
 
belgurdo said:
*Bungie releases map expansion packs for Halo*

MAN WTF???? M$ IS SCREWING US UP THE ASS NO ONE WILL BUY THIS

*Nintendo releases versions of Wario Ware or Nintendogs where you have to buy add-on packs or additional animals or something to get the full game or unlock bonus content*

OMG BEST GAME EVER THEY KNOW WHAT GAMERS WANT GOTY WE LOVE YOU NIN10DO
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GAF summed up nicely here.

IJoel said:
No, it's their fault that everything, including downloadable content, HAS TO BE A SECRET. Communication works wonderfully, and vague statements like those Frankie made today, certainly don't help squash rumors.

I loved Halo and Halo 2. They are two of my favorite games this generation. But enough is enough with all the secrecy even after the game is released.
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Reminds me of PGR2. There were ridiculous levels of secrecy over the bonus content there, and it was way too late. I understand some things need to be finalised before they can be talked about but we've got Blimblim here telling us all manner of details about Xbox2 and we can't even get something concrete on these maps.
 
I will pay whatever they charge for the maps, even if they charge just to download them. $30? Fine.

I enjoy playing Halo 2 online. I will enjoy it 10X more when the cheats are removed. And I will enjoy it more still with a few new maps thrown into the rotation.

I've already more than squeezed my $50 worth out of the game, and justified my yearly Xbox Live payment too, just from how much I've played it online.

If you don't want to pay for it, don't. I'll quite happily do so and play against all the people who will. And sometimes, just sometimes, I will yell "Teabag!" just for the hell of it.
 
Anyone know if this download will fix the glitches and stop the cheating? I loved playing Halo 2 online but only stopped because the cheating became ridiculous

Oh and I'm with the people who say this should be free. I paid for my Xbox, I pay my Xbox Live subscription and I was first in line to buy Halo 2 the day it was released here. $19 is too much for 8 maps especially as it will be converted to £20 for the UK! They should be free and they should have been staggered ie one a fortnight. Giving us 8 maps in one go is stupid
 
123rl said:
Anyone know if this download will fix the glitches and stop the cheating? I loved playing Halo 2 online but only stopped because the cheating became ridiculous

Oh and I'm with the people who say this should be free. I paid for my Xbox, I pay my Xbox Live subscription and I was first in line to buy Halo 2 the day it was released here. $19 is too much for 8 maps especially as it will be converted to £20 for the UK! They should be free and they should have been staggered ie one a fortnight. Giving us 8 maps in one go is stupid
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Again, this is no way yet official information. And as you might have noticed, only NON- LIVE users would have to buy the disc according to the speculative and in no way confirmed article. They would be free content downloads for Live users.

Also: doing a little research yourself (even since it's mentioned in this thread numerous times) can't hurt.

http://www.bungie.net/News/TopStory.aspx?story=weeklywhatsmar18&p=2645901
 
123rl said:
Oh and I'm with the people who say this should be free.
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It is free.

At least, it is according to the rumors everyone is misreading and being babies about. It only costs money if you don't have XBL and want to buy the discs. The discs which cost money to manufacture, package and distribute. I've never seen so many people either read the same thing wrong or willfully act like ignorant asses in one thread before in my life. Free on Xbox Live. Costs money in the stores. It's extra content, not the ending to the game you already bought. IT'S A BONUS! My God. This thread is a blight on the cognitive skills of human kind. :lol
 
Manufacture and distribute! You can get Microsoft to send you Microsoft XP Service Packs if you don't have the internet, and for free! I ordered one online and it came in a pretty slip and everything! Sure it's a CD, but blank DVDs are, like, 25c US now.
 
Rlan said:
Manufacture and distribute! You can get Microsoft to send you Microsoft XP Service Packs if you don't have the internet, and for free! I ordered one online and it came in a pretty slip and everything! Sure it's a CD, but blank DVDs are, like, 25c US now.
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You're hanging yourself with your own rope with that analogy. Service Packs are to improve the reliability of the product you already bought. A map pack for Halo 2 is purely extra content. For the life of me I don't understand why people think Bungie should be giving them extra shit for free. If the map packs are not going to be free online, I have a wild idea here: Don't buy them. The same way you don't buy other games you don't think are worth the money. Your Halo 2 will still work just as well without it, unlike Windows XP without service packs.
 
What would be funny is if they add an alternate ending to Halo 2 in those discs. I wonder how many people would buy that. :lol
 
VALIS said:
It is free.

At least, it is according to the rumors everyone is misreading and being babies about. It only costs money if you don't have XBL and want to buy the discs. The discs which cost money to manufacture, package and distribute. I've never seen so many people either read the same thing wrong or willfully act like ignorant asses in one thread before in my life. Free on Xbox Live. Costs money in the stores. It's extra content, not the ending to the game you already bought. IT'S A BONUS! My God. This thread is a blight on the cognitive skills of human kind. :lol
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No, I said it should be free because I don't know if it will be or not. AFAIK, this hasn't been confirmed 100% yet but I'm saying I think it should be free for Xbox Live subscribers.
 
It looks like alot of people who jumped to conclusions and prematurely bashed bungie/ms may be in for a crow eating session...
 
sol5377 said:
It looks like alot of people who jumped to conclusions and prematurely bashed bungie/ms may be in for a crow eating session...
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I guess if you can still get past the fact that Bungie has pretty much fucked over their entire community for months by not fixing the rampant cheating, then yes they might.

This is a perfect example of an company jumping into a mediun they know nothing about. Leave it for Epic or ID Software next time Bungie.
 
MS are doing this because they know that people will buy it. Everyone here will buy it and half of the Halo 2 owners will buy it too.
 
sol5377 said:
It looks like alot of people who jumped to conclusions and prematurely bashed bungie/ms may be in for a crow eating session...
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I'd love to see it happen. This thread is just chock-full of crazy shit. If there is crow to be had, I'm going to make a big bowl of popcorn and read through the next 10 pages of ranting and raving and/or next 10 threads on the subject...whatever happens. Even if there's no crow to be served, it's still going to spawn 10 pages or 10 threads of crazy shit. Point is, it's gonna happen and it's gonna be an interesting read. :lol
 
Sp3eD said:
I guess if you can still get past the fact that Bungie has pretty much fucked over their entire community for months by not fixing the rampant cheating, then yes they might.

This is a perfect example of an company jumping into a mediun they know nothing about. Leave it for Epic or ID Software next time Bungie.
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They're working on releasing it soon. It's taken them months, sure, but at least they're doing something about it. Once the problems are fixed and the new maps are released, will everyone still hate Bungie?
 
VALIS said:
I don't understand why people think Bungie should be giving them extra shit for free.
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Because companies like Epic have been providing customers with richer free downloadable content than this for their FPS's for years now and it's hardly bankrupted them. When a huge corporation with far deeper pockets decides to charge for the same kind of content, it just comes off as unmitigated greed. Especially when the developer involved is by all appearances too busy working on the maps they intend to charge for to address other, more pressing problems, like rampant cheating. It seems almost like someone at MS told Bungie, 'Screw the existing customers, they already bought the game! Forget the cheat fixes for now and go work on some extra levels first--we can charge people for those.' :p

sol5377 said:
It looks like alot of people who jumped to conclusions and prematurely bashed bungie/ms may be in for a crow eating session...
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It's not like MS hasn't given people ample reason to jump to the conclusions they have, what with their bullishness on microtransactions and downloadable content as ways to generate more revenue per title.
 
Boy I'm glad we all got the opportunity to bash Microsoft, Bungie, and Halo 2 some more. And of couse this isn't trolling because your not doing it to Sony or Nintendo. I mean that's the only logical one to think about it right?

If they do this and you don't want to spend the money. Well just don't. Problem solved. I'm not going to get it. I played enough Halo 2 late last year and early this year that I'd rather spend my money on some new games.
 
My god this thread is insane. Who the hell knows what M$ ad BUngie are going to do. Remeber the DLC for Full Spectrum Warrior. I purchased it, then 2 months later when M$/Pandemic decided to give out the content for free, they refunded the amount to my Credit card. Thepoint I'm trying tomake is that we don't know what the heck is going ot happen, so until then I think all this rampant speculation should cease. Man, people are cheapskates when it comes to DLC! For heaven's sake if they do charge ad you don't want to pay THEN DON'T!! The biggest message you can send is with your wallet! But unfortunately this game has a rabid fanbase, and if the GAF speculation is true, there are many without XBL, and will purchase this content. But that's enough speculation on my part. I do agree about the secrecy bit though, but then again this info was leaked early. I'm outta this thread............later..........
 
I hate to make a joke out of this but its pretty damn apt. Remember the good ol days when it seemed like MS didn't think twice about taking a Billion dollar hit if it meant they get their Xbox console into hardcore gamers homes and keep those consumers happy?

MS spent Hundreds of millions on aquiring new first and second party development houses even if some of the Devs were not worth their Xbox Development Kits just to ensure that Xbox would have a strong supply of in-house support early on. They didn't think twice about being the only competitor to say Fuk mem cards and include a huge hardrive in Xbox which in affect lead to them having to sell the console at a great loss. The continued to lower the price of XBL subscriptions early on just to get the service into more gamers homes. They spent many millions on securing exclusive or timed-exclusive content from the high-profile developers they couldn't outright buy sometimes even paying for the development costs of those games (Never heard of Sony or Nintendo doing stuff like this unless it was an exclusive franchise) In fact I would go as far as to say that in the first 2 1/2-3yrs of Xbox's release MS was better for gamers than Sony, Nintendo or Sega have been in their entire history of Console development.

Now fast foward to the present after 3 Billion or so worth of losses from the Division responsible for the Xbox and you have a much more money conscience MGS and rightfully so. They could not continue to operate the way they were with those kinds of losses and we have already begun to see the backlash of such short-sighted decisions early on.

*The dropping of several second parties and exclusive publishing rights or the cancellation of whole projects or divisions. (Psychonauts to Oddworld to TFLO to Sports)

*The continuation and handling of problematic components inside of the Xbox console itself. (They continue to put faulty prone Thomson drives into new Xbox's and seem to randomly pick people to pay $100 for its repair.)

*Charging for various XBL content when it was touted to be free before the service launched. (This isn't so bad if the price is justified by its content)

*The most obvious being their handling of MS's 360 console to not include an in-built hardrive or BC two features that NO Xbox fan would of dreamed could be excluded from Xbox's Successor back in 2002. Now Xbox owners will be required to buy memory cards, hardrive for XBL dl's ect. The exclusion of HD-TV is far more understandable and doesn't have as much of a direct affect on 360's game-playing functions (besides the obvious more gigs of space)

Its a totally different Microsoft than the one who would of went to hell and back financially for Gamers a few years back when its competiton definitely wouldn't. People believed that MS would use whatever means possible to achieve the number 1 spot even if it meant loosing Billions to ensure that they would always have the most powerful and feature rich hardware and sell it at an affordable price in-line with its competition (Sony). Thats just not true anymore and that philosophy might of sailed when the Xbox's original creator and father left Microsoft Games Studios. I still think they are in a better position to secure a more solid number 2 spot against Sony unless Nintendo gets a clue and includes Revolution with everything 360 is leaving out this generation (HD-DVD, BC, HD, Free Wireless Online service ect.)
 
Yeah, we'll see. But a rumored 8 multiplayer maps for $30 is a slap in the face to the fans. I hope it doesn't come to fruition because that would make Halo 2 expansion the most expensive and least content filled expansion to grace gamers.
 
sp0rsk said:
i doubt it.
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Agreed. I don't think the maps are as big as you think they may be. Could be wrong though. :D

Mrbob said:
Yeah, we'll see. But a rumored 8 multiplayer maps for $30 is a slap in the face to the fans. I hope it doesn't come to fruition because that would make Halo 2 expansion the most expensive and least content filled expansion to grace gamers.
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Agreed. I think Bungie/MS would be making a big mistake going this route. That's why I think it's unlikely.
 
Ok.....whats with all the Defensiveness from the Xbox Fans?

This isnt a Xbox Vs Ps2 Vs Nintendo thing here.
Its not about Bias.

listen. I Like my Xbox and LOVED halo 2.....yes "loved"....i use to love the game.

but after dealing with bullshit for a long time and waiting for a long time and getting little riddles from bungie about whats gonna happen then BAM this stupid information gets dropped from MS.....well...you just get fed up and say fuck it.....there are many other Online games to be played.....better ones at that.

peace
 
Just saw this...

http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/product/256424.asp

The Halo 2 Multiplayer Map Pack is a collection of nine multiplayer maps, as well as non-playable video content (a cinematic and a mini-documentary). Delivered on a standard Xbox DVD disc, the multiplayer content can be used by gamers on Xbox Live as well as those who play multiplayer via System Link or via Split-screen (on one Xbox).

Nine (9) all-new multiplayer maps
New cinematic video
New mini-documentary video from Bungie Studios

cost = $19.99
 
i really dont understand the problems with this.

there should be more of an uproar with the fact that the "limited" edition was FAR from limited and the fact that people can STILL and DO standby and bungie hasnt yet fixed it.

this expansion pack doesnt bother me one bit but the other two do.
 
The 9 maps better be available at once for Xbox Live owners.

The EBgames page has a date of May 24th, btw.
 
Joe said:
there should be more of an uproar with the fact that the "limited" edition was FAR from limited and the fact that people can STILL and DO standby and bungie hasnt yet fixed it.
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There should be an uproar over the fact that they manufactured enough copies of the LE version to meet demand? Why, because now you can't eBay it for twenty times the list price as a 'rare item'? Give me a break. They damn well better keep making enough of the LE's to meet demand, especially now that companies are starting to include exclusive playable content on them that isn't available in the regular version (like Jade Empire). The collectors and speculators are the only ones that would benefit from an artificial shortage of limited edition pressings, and they can go hang as far as I'm concerned. :p
 
I am patiently awaiting Bungie's big announcement/explanation of this, this referring to the part where the expansion disc will be in stores and apparently costs actual money. Did they not speak out against this sort of thing when discussing the prospects of Halo 1.5?
 
crawlingpeter said:
What about GTA:London for psx? Does that count?
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IIRC, GTA London was stand alone so I don't think that counts. Otherwise, GTA Vice City could be considered an expansion, ya?

When I mention expansions packs for Beatmania, I mean it is required that you own the core game disc of the original game on top of the expansion disc. Just owning the expansion pack disc for Beatmania won't run by itself
 
Wario64 said:
IIRC, GTA London was stand alone so I don't think that counts. Otherwise, GTA Vice City could be considered an expansion, ya?

When I mention expansions packs for Beatmania, I mean it is required that you own the core game disc of the original game on top of the expansion disc. Just owning the expansion pack disc for Beatmania won't run by itself
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You did have to have the original in order for GTA: London to work.
 
oooh i wonder if the cinematic is a Halo 3 teaser...

I guess its probably just trailers for other games or at best some shitty Sarge comedy moment.
 
I thought whole appeal of the Xbox HDD and to a lesser extent LIVE was that developers could release extra stuff for their games to extend replayability and the such. Like Ninja Gaiden's Hurricane Pack or whatever. Awesome.

To charge 20 bucks for 9 maps that should've been there in the first place is pretty low, considering that Halo 2 is one of the best selling games this generation.

The sad thing is that most people will pay for it, which essentially makes Halo 2 a 70 dollar game. And people whine about EA and company most likely charging 60 dollars for premium games, this is by far worse. No one is making you buy it, but holy hell, 20 bucks for 9 maps? That's more than 2 dollars per level. Considering they could just as easily put them on the OXM demo disc or the Exhibition discs, this is high way robbery.
 
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