Halo 2 Online isnt that fun.

your opinion does not equal fact

in fact, i would say that the majority differs with you

but hey! MAF post count +1, Trakball sucked into trolling +1
 
Well, opinion is not fact. This is true.

However, more than MAF can share MAF's opinion. I don't think Halo 2 online is fun either. It's been UT'd up, it's way more arcadey than Halo 1. Everything is too fast.

I don't care for the control, either. It's too floaty. Of course, this comes from the controlls being muddied by building the controller -- the muddiness gets transfered to the Smartjoy when I use it, so it really doesn't help me out much. I can't play with the controller itself at all, so I'm kind of stuck not liking the control scheme.

Another point of unease is the maps -- they suck, for the most part. Halo 1 has some stinkers to be sure, but the only H2 maps I really like are Coagulation and Ivory Tower.

I probably won't be playing this game much now. It's frustrating, I don't like dealing with it. I know I'm in the minority though, I can live with that.
 
This is what I think of when I start considering firing up Live! and playing Halo 2:

First off: Dont like the people.

Second: Everyone apparently plays more than me, and rank matchmaking is useless in CTF games. I can be sure to be ranked with people who are a lot better than me, and will provide a match with few returns, yet there is the chance of a 'good game' right?

Third: Wrong. The game moves in instants. The multiplayer gameplay, even the 'strategic' game modes have been cultured for the quake 3 WWE football player surfer jock screaming punk redneck urban goths all of which I am not.

Fourth: Ill end up feeling bad about the 20 minutes I wasted watching my respawn count tick by between unsatisfying encounters.

Fifth: I could be playing something else.
 
Even though they weakened the melee and grenades, I like Halo 2's multiplayer better than the pistol fest that was the multiplayer of Halo 1.
 
I have never played a better game.

I love the sword, not that that's relevant here. But it's like cheating, except you're ALLOWED.
 
MrAngryFace said:
First off: Dont like the people.


There's always GAFers online. Also, if you've been playing XBL for a while, you're sure to have some of your friends on there. If you haven't made friends, maybe that's your fault? No no wait, it's other people.

MrAngryFace said:
Second: Everyone apparently plays more than me, and rank matchmaking is useless in CTF games. I can be sure to be ranked with people who are a lot better than me, and will provide a match with few returns, yet there is the chance of a 'good game' right?


How much are you playing? I've played maybe 10 games and I'm at level 3. The highest I've ever played against is a five. Methinks you protest too much.


MrAngryFace said:
Third: Wrong. The game moves in instants. The multiplayer gameplay, even the 'strategic' game modes have been cultured for the quake 3 WWE football player surfer jock screaming punk redneck urban goths all of which I am not.

elitism > playing together


MrAngryFace said:
Fourth: Ill end up feeling bad about the 20 minutes I wasted watching my respawn count tick by between unsatisfying encounters.


so what you're saying is; if you suck, then the game must suck? way to go for the gusto, MAF!


MrAngryFace said:
Fifth: I could be playing something else.


you're absolutely right. there's more Kohan to be played!
 
Cerrius said:
You forgot to mention no public custom games.

Biggest flaw IMO

Halo 2 is a lot of fun and anyone who says otherwise just sucks at it, but that point is indeed valid and Bungie needs to fix it.
 
I played Rockets in Halo. So far, I prefer Halo to Halo 2's multiplayer. Mostly because my favorite level (Hang Em High) isn't in the game.
 
Trackball:

youve hit every nail on the head. You're very observant to be able to pick apart my perfectly plain post.

Yes, I think I am better than most people playing on live. Most of these people are stupid cocks.
 
Seth C said:
I played Rockets in Halo.

UGH!

If I ever am playing custom and it gets switched to that, I drop always.

*step, step, boom! spawn, step, step boom!*
 
not on Live! but I would say playing Halo 2 split screen isn't as fun as halo 1 split screen.

it feels like the same, with irritating texture swapping making for worse graphics imo, taking out the overused but incredibly fun pistol, and replacing it with a stupid sword.

the pistol was over used in Halo 1 but it was also the main thing making the game fun. It fired fast and was accurate and felt like it had a good 'weight' to it. In all previous FPS I've never liked the accuracy and damage of the weapons. I can shoot and feel like I was pretty on and then I look at the person's life and it never moved. And I have no answer other then, "well, obviously you weren't shooting where you thought you were shooting."

Its like going back to the old days of gradeschool dodgeball. "I hit you. You're out." "No you didn't."

The Halo 1 pistol was the first gun to remove that and make it so that if I thought I hit someone, I did. And thats what made Halo fun. It removed the annoyances that make other fps games unplayable for me.

That and I hate shields, and turning off shields in halo 2 makes for this weird no health/invisible health thing where, in my limited time playing, I certainly saw no health bar on my screen to know how well I had done in a particular gun fight.
 
I've played a total of 2 games on Halo2 Live. The first was fun, 'cause although the other team were better overall, there was still enough of a balanace of skills that we could pull stuff back. The second game sucked 'cause there were two guys on the other team who were miles better than everyone else. Maybe it's just me but quickmatching should never be unranked. Unranked should be something a person undertakes voluntarily with prior warning. Of course this was back when the matching was crazily slow. I really should try make time for some more.

Plus I need to try get in on the GAF action.
 
MrAngryFace said:
Halo 2 Online isn't that fun
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MrAngryFace said:
Third: Wrong. The game moves in instants. The multiplayer gameplay, even the 'strategic' game modes have been cultured for the quake 3 WWE football player surfer jock screaming punk redneck urban goths all of which I am not.

The kinda people you mention like "realistic" fps like Desert Combat (mostly counter strike). Anything even remotely sci-fi or non realistic is "gay" to them. These are the people complaining about the Arbiter in Halo 2.
 
MrAngryFace said:
Third: Wrong. The game moves in instants. The multiplayer gameplay, even the 'strategic' game modes have been cultured for the quake 3 WWE football player surfer jock screaming punk redneck urban goths all of which I am not.
Huh?
 
MrAngryFace said:
Third: Wrong. The game moves in instants. The multiplayer gameplay, even the 'strategic' game modes have been cultured for the quake 3 WWE football player surfer jock screaming punk redneck urban goths all of which I am not.

Yep. The first 30 seconds of Rapid Assault or really any objective game on Burial Mounds are just a race for then sniper rifles and then who can snipe who to position their team to acquire both the rockets and the sword and then the UT/Quake jumping and praying and lucking begins. :lol

MAF, I do love the withering criticism and you are entitled to your opinion, but here I think you might be a little off base. People do suck though. Send me a Friend Request and you can play with us -- TJ Scoot :)
 
Lhadatt said:
I don't think Halo 2 online is fun either. It's been UT'd up, it's way more arcadey than Halo 1. Everything is too fast.

As opposed to Halo 1, which the reflex-impaired like to tout as 'strategically paced' because it gave them an (over-)abundance of time to think (and aim). :p 'Halo, the FPS slow enough for everyone to play!' And now Halo 2 actually forces players to think and shoot quickly, so suddenly it's a step backward. Give me a break.

I hate it when people try to equate the fast pace of a title like UT with an inherent lack of depth. Just because the game is too fast for you to strategize on your feet while dodging and shooting at fast-moving targets doesn't mean that everyone else is running around mindlessly. If you're looking for a game where the player who has the better reflexes doesn't have a significant advantage, forget FPS's and go play Risk or something. :p

MrAngryFace said:
Third: Wrong. The game moves in instants. The multiplayer gameplay, even the 'strategic' game modes have been cultured for the quake 3 WWE football player surfer jock screaming punk redneck urban goths all of which I am not.

Actually, they're called 'people with decent reflexes', but if you're having trouble with the game speed in Halo 2, I have to agree that you're not among them. :p
 
Pimpbaa said:
The kinda people you mention like "realistic" fps like Desert Combat (mostly counter strike). Anything even remotely sci-fi or non realistic is "gay" to them. These are the people complaining about the Arbiter in Halo 2.

Yep. One of my good friends has now moved on to Ghost Recon 2. Halo is too "sci-fi" for him with the "crazy" weapons. I played online with him once. He did think the vehicles were cool, though.
 
MAF maybe just sucks too bad. I know when I first went on Xbox live to play Halo 2 I wasn't having a lot of fun the first 3 games. Because I was dying a lot and hardly getting any kills. Then I started to really get used to the controls (been only playing a short time at that point) and you know what? The game is a blast to play. MAF is just a noob maybe :(. It's easy to not enjoy a game when you completely suck at it. Dont feel bad :(.

It's an amazing experience and too fast? whatever. The gameplay is fierce and very intense at times. I rather they didn't slow it down. This isn't Mario Space Gun Shooter for Gamecube with magical watergun and throwing mushrooms instead of grenades. This is the real deal...

Most people can agree that online Halo 2 is incredible.
 
I don't think it's a big deal if you don't like Halo & prefer a more serious sim... that's cool - I guess I don't see why we need a whole thread on it. oh, it's MAF! the GAF arbiter of taste.
 
adam20 said:
MAF maybe just sucks too bad. I know when I first went on Xbox live to play Halo 2 I wasn't having a lot of fun the first 3 games. Because I was dying a lot and hardly getting any kills. Then I started to really get used to the controls (been only playing a short time at that point) and you know what? The game is a blast to play. MAF is just a noob maybe :(. It's easy to not enjoy a game when you completely suck at it. Dont feel bad :(.

It's an amazing experience and too fast? whatever. The gameplay is fierce and very intense at times. I rather they didn't slow it down. This isn't Mario Space Gun Shooter for Gamecube with magical watergun and throwing mushrooms instead of grenades. This is the real deal...

Most people can agree that online Halo 2 is incredible.

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I agree with MAF, the multiplayer is subpar compared to about every FPS released on the PC since the year 2000.

And god does the splitscreen suck or what? I couldn't even force my friends to play it and they were anticipating the game alot.
 
pfft. too many xbox haters in one thread. I suppose 90% of all reviews are wrong and the multiplayer just blows. whatever. It's just a pure fact that the multiplayer is great. And for some people spectastic. Spectacular, Fantastic, all put into one tasty package. yum
 
Out of all the fps's I've played online on PC,Xbox,PS2, it's the only one that pisses me off more and more every time I play it. However, under the many, many flaws, the game can be fun. It's just a shame you have to shovel all the shit out of the way to get to the good parts.
 
Why the fuck are we putting Halo 2 in the same catagory as UT? It has no dodging, no weapon balance, and most definitly no deck16.
 
MrAngryFace said:
This is what I think of when I start considering firing up Live! and playing Halo 2:

First off: Dont like the people.

Second: Everyone apparently plays more than me, and rank matchmaking is useless in CTF games. I can be sure to be ranked with people who are a lot better than me, and will provide a match with few returns, yet there is the chance of a 'good game' right?

Third: Wrong. The game moves in instants. The multiplayer gameplay, even the 'strategic' game modes have been cultured for the quake 3 WWE football player surfer jock screaming punk redneck urban goths all of which I am not.

Fourth: Ill end up feeling bad about the 20 minutes I wasted watching my respawn count tick by between unsatisfying encounters.

Fifth: I could be playing something else.

i hardly ever play matchmaking games...now, only time il play matchmaking is with others on my friends list so....i just play with my friends, gaffers, and ccers

thats about it. if they arent playing custom games or dont invite me to matchmaking, then i wont play multiplayer. cause the random people annoy me.

you should play with gaffers guy, we just had some great ctf matches just now.

<Edit>
oh and my opinion on halo 2 multiplayer. There are somethings that need to be fixed. Head to head for instance.

but regardless of the minor flaws in the game.........ive enjoyed halo 2 multiplayer more than any pc fps and im a PC gamer First. yes, i like it more than UT2004. yes i like it More than Raven shield (thought i wouldnt). yes i like it more than CS:Source. etc etc etc etc.
Date of Lies said:
the multiplayer is subpar compared to about every FPS released on the PC since the year 2000.

saying that its just "subpar" compared to all fps since 2000 is just retarded. thats the Fanboy in you talking.
But different strokes for different folks. Yes I was heavily annoyed playing multiplayer without a mouse and kb the first few weeks of playing halo 2 but i forced myself to get better with the controller and now i enjoy it alot more than PC fps multiplayer.
but again, thats just me, and i know for a fact im in the minority amongst other pc gamers.

peace
 
Mega Man's Electric Sheep said:
Ugh. I like Halo 2 multiplayer, but I can see how some might not think it was all that. How can you be so closed minded to think that a game's quality is a fact?

I got two words for you.... yum
 
Mega Man's Electric Sheep said:
How can you be so closed minded to think that a game's quality is a fact?


About as closeminded as the people dismissing the games' quality as 'fact'. We agree to disagree, s'all good!
 
I agree there are some issues with online matchmaking but give Bungie some time to tweak things. Isn't like Desert Combat was available out of the box for BF1942.
 
catfish said:
UGH!

If I ever am playing custom and it gets switched to that, I drop always.

*step, step, boom! spawn, step, step boom!*

Everyone has an equal chance. Better than being fragged by the guy with the sniper rifle from across the level the moment you spawn.
 
I'm feeling the same way. I kept killing my team cause we were yellow and the other team's color was green and when you have rockets on and it's rockets coming at you from every direction, it's hard to tell who's green and who's yellow.
 
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