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Halo 3 Beta Video
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Flesh Into Gear
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Halo uses the honor system I guess
AltogetherAndrews
Member
I just don't get why you'd even be interested in playing competitive game types if you don't intend on playing fair. I mean, what's the point? Is there even a sense of accomplishment in winning a game if you had to use exploits to win it in the first place?
gollumsluvslave
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i know Halo is popular but do we really need a 27 page thread for that clip?
:lol :lol
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AltogetherAndrews said:
well MLG, the world largest competitive gaming organization, i believe, thinks all the glitches mentioned here are acceptable for competitive Halo 2 play; and Bungie actually uses MLGs gametypes for Team Hardcore.
MLG does not allow glitches like superbouncing, etc., but BXBs, BXRs, Double Shots, etc. are allowed.
Heck, do you guys think spawn glitching is cheating too? Some of MLGs 1v1 pros know exactly how to spawn trap people on Warlock and pre-nade that position as the person is spawning. Is that cheating or is that just a complete understanding of the game Halo 2?
AdmiralViscen
Banned
urk said:
:lol
BTW I tried popping in Halo 2 and now it's ****ed, yay!
Hiro_Kunimi_80
Member
This is Haloooooooogollumsluvslave said:
**and this november we'll finish the fight
godhandiscen
There are millions of whiny 5-year olds on Earth, and I AM THEIR KING.
I dont use it because tbh I cant pull it, and when I play H2 I try to have fun and hardly ever try to figure out the best spots in a map or tricks like those. However, I have noticed that using them doesnt give you an unfair advantage, but only levels things up. Almost 90% of people use it. It is almost a neccessary skill. I really cant do it, but I wish I could. I am a 24 in TS and sometimes I feel like I could have reached 30 if I was to use such tricks and the noob combo. Still, I feel proud of the fact that I manage to keep my level without employing any of these things.Stinkles said:
bggrthnjsus
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urk said:
:lol:lolurk said:
two best posts in this thread
PedroLumpy
Member
bishoptl said:
I believe Stinkles once posted an 'interview' he did with a Halo cheater. The logic used by the hacker was mind blowing. One gem if I recall correctly was that "Everyone can download <whatever> hack to their Xbox! It's their fault for not using it!"
As the saying goes, Logic to a fool sounds foolish.
EDIT Found the thread
Here
So it's actually done by someone else, Stinkles was the one who posted it.
Here's what I was thinking about. Aeropause is our interviewee, and Schmuck5000 is the cheater
Yup, it's not in the instruction manual, anywhere on the official site, or noted in the game in any context. The developer never intended you to skip reload animations, double up attacks, or jump twenty times as high as everyone else. You use these exploits because you aren't skilled enough otherwise, or because all the "pros" are using them, or because you don't feel they give you an unfair advantage, but the reality is you suck and you make the game less fun for legitimate players who just want to have fun or have a fair match without having to comb the net looking for magic button combinations or secret exploits.
How anyone can spin that into the realm of fair gameplay is beyond me. If winning a video game is that important to you, it's time to put the controller down and back away from your television. It's therapy time, Croyt.
How anyone can spin that into the realm of fair gameplay is beyond me. If winning a video game is that important to you, it's time to put the controller down and back away from your television. It's therapy time, Croyt.
got2bekidding
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urk said:
Love your new tag :lol :lol :lol
urk
butthole fishhooking yes
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MaX_PL said:
Durp!
Dude, MLG has to allow them. How in the hell could they stop people from using them?
And trying to equate Bungie's adoption of a popular, player requested gametype as a tacit approval of glitch use? Good show. Don't worry that Frankie is in here telling you otherwise, or that you can read a dissenting view on Bungie's official site. Those are details you need not concern yourself with, especially if the d00ds over at MLG say it's cool.
got2bekidding
Member
urk said:
:lol :lol
GhaleonEB said:
bungie said there will be an official faq posted before the beta hits, so i'd imagine there will TONS of speculation/discussion/hating when that occurs. i think the beginning of may should be a good time. hopefully you or modus will start it, as you guys do a good job keeping the first post up to date and writing coherently
Mr Vociferous
Member
I might attend/support a beta thread, if it were created.
They do call me masterbeta afterall.
They do call me masterbeta afterall.
To be fair, I ripped on you because of your posting history in other threads, after that post.Borys said:
However, you've edited out. I didn't notice the edit in time, just the original and so I retract my comments - I've certainly made my fair share of poorly thought-out posts that I didn't edit in time.
And Voc - I don't even want to know who "they" are. :lol
i_am_tiberius
Banned
I really like the concave. I think it looks kind of like Half-Life 2 +. I'm sure some of the textures that don't look so good now will look much much better once *real* screenshots come out. I am a little dissapointed that the graphics either way you cut it aren't going to be earth-shattering, but it's not like they're bad and Halo's gameplay is what I'm going to be buying it for. There was a reason Halo 2 was twice the game Doom 3 was despite it coming out around the same time and not looking as good.
i've heard about bxb, didn't realize it was classified as a cheat. i've never tried it because i'm too apathetic to worry about such things, which might further explain my k/d ratio being less than 1. i've never heard of bxr, though.
anyway, three lingering things from this thread
1) graphics whores suck.
2) i have an urge to play some halo 2 again.
3) seriously, how fired is the leaker? "so fired"
anyway, three lingering things from this thread
1) graphics whores suck.
2) i have an urge to play some halo 2 again.
3) seriously, how fired is the leaker? "so fired"
Mr. Lemming
Member
I would support Mr. V doing the beta thread considering the sweet beta writeup/faq you have over at AJ. I'll be compiling a player list again but unlike for Halo 2 I'm not entering everyone's name to later send everyone a clan invite. I became very familiar with the xbox dashboard keyboard. Too familiar.
Even though I don't agree with all the BXR crap, I don't see how exploiting Bungie's own goof up is considered cheating. It's Bungie's fault if anything.
And in all honesty, H2's engine was just piss poor. I mean, look at the sword lunge and high jump exploits. Both arose from the same physics errors, directly tied to the engine, and were never patched.
I can only pray these problems aren't in H3. The physics engine appears to be entirely reworked though, so I don't expect them to be.
And in all honesty, H2's engine was just piss poor. I mean, look at the sword lunge and high jump exploits. Both arose from the same physics errors, directly tied to the engine, and were never patched.
I can only pray these problems aren't in H3. The physics engine appears to be entirely reworked though, so I don't expect them to be.
If you mean Voc's love of himself, then yes.SonnyBoy said:
A short manifesto on graphics.
I used to judge graphics before a game was done, even up until recently. I no longer do. I learned my lesson in the timeframe between E3 2005 and the 360 launch, when I was very critical of the graphics in a number of games, and then taken aback when they actually shipped. After all, only a few months had passed.
I now look at unfinished games with varying degrees of cautious optimism. I've learned a lot of lessons about game development lately. I've learned that framerate issues can plague a game until the last few months and still get ironed out to near perfection (Gears of War). I've learned that when a developer says they're still working on adding layers to the graphics, and that the final game will look better - I should take them at their word. They're probably right. Che, I'm looking at your baby (Forza 2). She's come a long ways.
I've also learned that off-camera video is a pretty terrible way to see games, especially next-gen, HD games. So many videos as last year's E3 left me thinking games looked just okay from that kind of footage, only to be blown away from the direct-feed stuff. I've also learned that when a developer has a pedigree of putting out stellar graphics, they usually live up to it.
In this Halo 3 leak we've got off-camera, low res video of an unfinished game from a developer that's been at the top of their class in graphics for years. I like what I see for the most part, but I do have criticisms. I'm not vocalizing them because I've learned the above lessons. I realize that focusing on the half-full portion of the proverbial glass makes me come across as some rabid fanboy (and in the case of Halo, that ain't far from the mark), but it's also because I judge this stuff for what it is, and what it is not.
brokenwatch
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Superbouncing is cheating obviously. But I thought BXR was put in intentionally as a skill you were supposed to master. Like a headshot. Or hammer-on/pull-off in GH2. If it is cheating I would like to see a link to a Bungie FAQ or something on it.
It's a button glitch not intended for the gameplay. Super-bouncing is also a glitch that wasn't meant to be included. It's in the physics engine.brokenwatch said:
I don't get it why some MLG fanboys or whoever uses the button combos think that it's okay to do that but find super-bouncing unfair. It really boggles my mind.
Many moderators on the B.net forums have said time and time again that button combos are considered cheating in Matchmaking.
AltogetherAndrews
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GhaleonEB said:
I generally agree with the idea of withholding judgment of WIP game footage, unless there's something there that seems largely unrealistic to be fixed, either due to time constraints or unfortunate design decisions. But in general, yeah, the WIP deal should be considered when looking at just about anything. But the off-screen footage, I have the opposite experience there. If anything, off-screen footage tends to be kind to games, allowing textureing and filtering flaws to be muddied and covered up nicely; HL2 for example looked damned near photorealistic in those early off-screen clips. The game still looked great in later, direct-feed clips, but certainly not as impressive as it had seemed in the off-screen clips.
Of course, this is both off-screen and ridiculously compressed, so I don't think my comments apply in this particular case.
AdmiralViscen
Banned
brokenwatch said:
Yea, negating reloads and getting automatic headshots is just like getting a headshot normally.
brokenwatch
Member
I'm not an MLG fanboy if that's what you're trying to imply. I am terrible at the game. I'm just looking for an official statement that this is cheating somewhere. To me it does not seem like cheating, but that's just my opinion. If there is a FAQ that states it is, hook me up.
I'm glad my attention span isn't long enough to be affected by cheaters. I played Halo 2 every day, for hours a day, for a month. Back when it was pure. I looked up a few months later and found the community was complaining about standbys and wall glitches and a million other problems. Cheaters ruin everything. Better enjoy the Beta and first few weeks after H3 comes out because everything will be different when cheaters figure out how to ruin everyone else's fun.
How many hours of Halo 2 were played before people figured out these glitches? No game is perfect. Given enough time, people will poke holes in even the strongest structures.
Zeal said:
How many hours of Halo 2 were played before people figured out these glitches? No game is perfect. Given enough time, people will poke holes in even the strongest structures.
got2bekidding
Member
brokenwatch said:
Not a FAQ but a ninja explaining in detail why it is cheating http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=8557363&postRepeater1-p=11
(bottom of the page)
Edit: http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=8557363&postRepeater1-p=5
Same thread, but explained by Achronos.