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Halo 3 Multiplayer Official Thread
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Domino Theory
Crystal Dynamics
Here's something I've been meaning to ask:
How come firebomb grenades aren't in MM ?
How come firebomb grenades aren't in MM ?
There are all sorts of bullshit going on in Lone Wolves. Seriously lame. I uploaded the two games I was cheated on oddball. It's called cheaterball, and cheaterball 2.
http://www.bungie.net/stats/Halo3/FileShare.aspx?gamertag=TheFoxInTheSnow
I was playing oddball on snowbound, and these two guys teamed up they waited by the portal one had the skull the other watched his back. I was like WTF??? After scoring a certain time they switched it up and finished one, and two. They had those thought bubbles so they were talking to each other the whole game. The game is called cheater ball on my uploaded file.
The second time I was cheated on was just rediculous, the match was 3 vs 1, with me being the 1. They went out of there way to kill me, when I didn't even have the ball. When the match ended 50/30/30/8 I know something was fishy so I checked the film lo and behold, when the time turned 30 they each dropped the ball. Ensuring they all finish 1, and 2. With me a distant 4 with a loss of a rank. Such bullshit I uploaded it, it's called cheaterball 2. They were definetly a team I checked one of their social slayer games and they were two of them in it.
This is seriously rediculous after the first time I was cheated on it opened my eyes. I played a lot of lone wolves games where I am constantly being killed away from the ball, or crazy king square I'm sure a lot of those were legit kills, but now I wonder if some of those were cheaters protecting their partners in the hill, or ball. I dont have the inclination to sift through my past 25 games to see. *sigh*
I also uploaded 2 films of a de-leveler from team slayer gamertag badtiming heero, I guess the new tactics is rather than suicide, they follow you around the whole game and consatantly shoot you until you're shields drop so the other team gets an easy kill afterwards he just stands there and lets them kill him. It's a lot more annoying and obnoxious than suiciders ever were in Halo 2. The games are called tk1 badtiming, and tk2 badtiming.
http://www.bungie.net/stats/Halo3/FileShare.aspx?gamertag=TheFoxInTheSnow
I was playing oddball on snowbound, and these two guys teamed up they waited by the portal one had the skull the other watched his back. I was like WTF??? After scoring a certain time they switched it up and finished one, and two. They had those thought bubbles so they were talking to each other the whole game. The game is called cheater ball on my uploaded file.
The second time I was cheated on was just rediculous, the match was 3 vs 1, with me being the 1. They went out of there way to kill me, when I didn't even have the ball. When the match ended 50/30/30/8 I know something was fishy so I checked the film lo and behold, when the time turned 30 they each dropped the ball. Ensuring they all finish 1, and 2. With me a distant 4 with a loss of a rank. Such bullshit I uploaded it, it's called cheaterball 2. They were definetly a team I checked one of their social slayer games and they were two of them in it.
This is seriously rediculous after the first time I was cheated on it opened my eyes. I played a lot of lone wolves games where I am constantly being killed away from the ball, or crazy king square I'm sure a lot of those were legit kills, but now I wonder if some of those were cheaters protecting their partners in the hill, or ball. I dont have the inclination to sift through my past 25 games to see. *sigh*
I also uploaded 2 films of a de-leveler from team slayer gamertag badtiming heero, I guess the new tactics is rather than suicide, they follow you around the whole game and consatantly shoot you until you're shields drop so the other team gets an easy kill afterwards he just stands there and lets them kill him. It's a lot more annoying and obnoxious than suiciders ever were in Halo 2. The games are called tk1 badtiming, and tk2 badtiming.
Ramirez said:
I hope they can patch the Maulers, by far the most overpowered "normal" weapon in the game. If I'm not mistaken it has one of the fastest melees which just completely brakes the balance of the weapon. All that needs to be done is the speed of the melee needs to be about the same as an AR, since Maulers are so common on a lot of maps.
One more thing regarding the needler; i've heard people online saying it's overpowered but the tracking is not that good on it at all. If you keep strafing to one side in a long motion they will just miss you, however if you try to take one on head to head with an AR or even BR (depending on distance) then you will die pretty quickly.
Man, I've been trying to view game assets from my perfection game forever, it says there's over 800 screens/clips, I'd really like to see them, but every time I try to load it, I get an error. Any chance that this will change Frankie, or is it purged information at this point? It doesn't actually say it's been purged, it does for the game viewer, but not the assets viewer, just get an error.
McBradders
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sp0rsk said:
Lone Wolves?
McBradders
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sp0rsk said:
Did you bag your MVP acheivement?
McBradders
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sp0rsk said:
Yah, if you get MVP in any ranked playlist it is worth... 5 gamerpoints :/
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
McBradders said:Did you bag your MVP acheivement?
That's only for Team Games ennit?
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urk said:
Ack, new "n00b" combo?
I have to say, the H2 "n00b combo" was the single most frustrating thing about online multiplayer. It made me cry. A lot :lol
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urk said:
It -is- a great combo for those maps, I agree, I assumed a group had figured out "teh ubar" with it and were going around tearing people new ones XD
So are we about ready for some kind of GAF tournament or other?
urk said:
I disagree with you double.
I like the Magnum because it acts like a , well a Magnum. A mid range weapon that can polish off a kill if the person is just about to die. If I have AR and no BR in site on a medium range map, I'll opt for the Magnum as my backup. If I kill someone, then turn and fight another person, my AR clip will run out before the second kill. Enter: Magnum. Don't get me wrong though BR > Magnum in any and every situation. I just wish there were more magnums. There should be a million just laying around for people to pick up before they find a better secondary weapon to the AR.
I laugh at people with Maulers. If I see them coming I jump backwards and BR their faces off, the range on the mauler sucks nuts. The only time I die by one of those is if they are hiding and I turn the corner.
sableholic
Member
Ramirez said:
I had my first perfection game last night in team doubles. 16-0. felt good
NJ x Falkor said:
I jump then melee Mauler users that are rushing me in the head and it works a lot of the time, unless i'm playing in a laggy game. However, more and more i'm seeing people in lone wolves just hide with the mauler to get "surprise" kills which really just slows down the pace of the game and makes it a mauler hide and seek feast. I don't find the Mauler annoying as the infamous n00b combo which I guess is one thing in its' favour. :lol
NJ x Falkor said:
lol
Get on. Rush Banshee. Boost over Warthog for Triple Kill. :lol
Edit: On the two other points.
You have over 4,000 kills total. 10 came by way of Magnum. It sucks.
I never dual wield the Mauler. Always in conjunction with BR. On both Narrows and Construct they are literally steps away from each other. You can work BR or snipe and retreat when you need to. If you're followed. Blam.
urk said:lol
You have over 4,000 kills total. 10 came by way of Magnum. It sucks.
I said I opt for it, I never said I kill people with it. Truth is I always have a good secondary weapon. But if I didn't have a secondary weapon. I'd chose the magnum over smg in most scenarios
NJ x Falkor said:
I pick it up in VIP or large vehicle maps if there's nothing else. But, yeah, it was downgraded hard for Halo 2 and in Halo 3, it's only useful as a tool, and even then, only for it's secondary fire. Even then, it's less effective against vehicles then the power drainer, unless you're trying to take a Banshee out with it. That's a tall order too. I think I've only done it twice. There are far better weapons lying around to take out vehicles.
But I've only picked up the Magnum by accident and I never see anyone using it in any combination outside of custom games, Infection, or VIP. Games where you are forced to have it.
I'm not a Halo pistol whore either. I mean, yeah, I loved it in the original, but I get why it was pulled for MP balance. The BR fills the roll nicely. I just question why it's in game at all at this point, beyond specific game types. Hell, it's on Guardian for Slayer matches. Good luck if you pick it up. Might as well jump off the map.
McBradders
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urk said:
:lol
Also, the stats system is somewhat messed up. My anecdotal evidence.
I was playing Team Slayer Saturday with a guy om my Friend's List who was a 17. I was something like 25. We won. I was last on the team in points. I went up to 27, he stayed pat at 17. I went through the stats to see if anything stood out. Did I have a super low amount of deaths? Scads of medals? A billion assists? Nope, he had me in every category.
I was playing Team Slayer Saturday with a guy om my Friend's List who was a 17. I was something like 25. We won. I was last on the team in points. I went up to 27, he stayed pat at 17. I went through the stats to see if anything stood out. Did I have a super low amount of deaths? Scads of medals? A billion assists? Nope, he had me in every category.
Super Johnson
Member
I got a legit Killtrocity while playing Big Team Battle on Sandtrap last night. I've only ever recieved a Killtacular in my whole Halo career, so it got me pretty excited.
If you want to see the film I have it on my file share:
http://www.bungie.net/stats/Halo3/FileShare.aspx?gamertag=Super%20Johnson
If you want to see the film I have it on my file share:
http://www.bungie.net/stats/Halo3/FileShare.aspx?gamertag=Super%20Johnson
urk said:
Well they don't explicitly explain it. Basically they are blocking boosting by giving marginal skill rank gain to lower level friends you are partied with. So you at lvl 25 and your friend at 17 could play 10 games and you win them all. He gets MVP every time while you are last in your team, hey maybe even afk the whole time. You could go up 3-5 levels in those 10 wins while he would go up none or maybe 1 if he is lucky or close to leveling already.
Overall it is easier to level in Halo 3, as long as you aren't in a party with higher level guys, then you will not level anywhere near what your friends will. I know this first hand, played a session with 4 guys, 26, 25, 21, 13. I was 21, well we won 25 games and only lost 3, I went up 2 levels, my two friends at 26 and 25 went up to 28 and 27 respectively and our friend at 13 barely made it to 14.
I think there are other side effects of partying up with lower level guys, your opponents are usually matched up to even out the skill. So high and low on both sides. That means if there are more lower level guys than you on the competition, if you lose you will lose more skill, or if there are more higher level guys you should gain more skill (unless you are severely under your party mates as I described above). So it seems the system is double edged, where you don't gain skill as much as a lower level guy and your higher level friends will lose skill faster because you are in the group.
I think it needs fixed, or balanced more, as it stands it just feels broken in more ways than one. I wonder why they didn't include the experience bar showing how close you were to leveling on the site? Maybe because they have some dasterly deeds going on.
i'll just throw in my leveling story-
playing ts as a level 29, win 3 games in a row, 1st/2nd player on my team each time, and didn't play against anyone lower than a 27 i think. Stayed at 29, then we lost one game, and I drop to a 28.:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
playing ts as a level 29, win 3 games in a row, 1st/2nd player on my team each time, and didn't play against anyone lower than a 27 i think. Stayed at 29, then we lost one game, and I drop to a 28.:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
Stoney Mason
Banned
It's just anecdotal but leveling does feel more weird than it did in Halo 2.
For what its worth, my games from the "lost days" (Oct 5-6) finally did get added to my game history, but the medals earned in them aren't in my medals chest.
I played a bunch of infection those days and got a couple Zombie killing sprees and one Hell's Janitor medal, but they aren't showing up in my medal collection.
I played a bunch of infection those days and got a couple Zombie killing sprees and one Hell's Janitor medal, but they aren't showing up in my medal collection.
Also, re: leveling - I'll admit I've seen some hilarity in team games where one of our partners just WOULD NOT level up no matter how good he played, but I've actually found the OPPOSITE to be true in Lone Wolves. I'm leveling up in LW even when I play like shit.
I've found it to be extremely difficult to de-level in Lone Wolves. I gained FOUR ranks (27 to 31) with the following - in this order:
5th
3rd
3rd
2nd
2nd
1st
4th
2nd
Yeah there's a lot of second-place finishes in there, but still. Neither the 5th place nor the 4th place finish de-leveled me, and I leveled up on at least one of the 3rd place finishes, as well.
The point is, I gained four levels in eight games. And while the eight weren't bad, they weren't really strong, either. There's no reason every other one should have leveled me up.
And this has consistently been the case in Halo 3. I gained a level when I was in the mid-20s with a 4th place finish.
I've found it to be extremely difficult to de-level in Lone Wolves. I gained FOUR ranks (27 to 31) with the following - in this order:
5th
3rd
3rd
2nd
2nd
1st
4th
2nd
Yeah there's a lot of second-place finishes in there, but still. Neither the 5th place nor the 4th place finish de-leveled me, and I leveled up on at least one of the 3rd place finishes, as well.
The point is, I gained four levels in eight games. And while the eight weren't bad, they weren't really strong, either. There's no reason every other one should have leveled me up.
And this has consistently been the case in Halo 3. I gained a level when I was in the mid-20s with a 4th place finish.
Domino Theory
Crystal Dynamics
urk said:
About the Magnum: On the contrary. Because the SMG's rate of fire has increased, it's more deadly than it was, and throwing in a decent Magnum for a dual-wield sensation makes the SMG/Magnum combo deadly, I would say. I love using it on Guardian.
About the Mauler: Agreed. I don't ever see anyone dual-wielding two Maulers.
I think most of my stats are updated now, i may be missing some games, probably 10 at most i guess, but most of them seem to be there.
I'm trying to reach lvl 20 in TS at the moment so that i can rank up, although it's pretty tough since i'm not very good and often quite inconsistent
I'm doing ok though, i haven't gone below 1.0 k/d since near the start, whereas in the beta i struggled to even get to 1 :lol
I'm trying to reach lvl 20 in TS at the moment so that i can rank up, although it's pretty tough since i'm not very good and often quite inconsistent
I'm doing ok though, i haven't gone below 1.0 k/d since near the start, whereas in the beta i struggled to even get to 1 :lol