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Halo 4 |OT| Spartans Never Die

Karl2177

Member
I have a survey in this post so that way lurkers aren't filling it out immediately. I'd like to gain a broader idea of what people think of Halo 4 as a whole.


If you'd fill it out, it would be appreciated. Your usernames are optional, but I placed it in there if you wanted me to know your specific feedback.
 
It gives you double xp if you play Spartan Ops matchmaking.

Just in case one isnt enough I too can confirm double xp most definately gets applied to Spartan Ops as long as you go through matchmaking.

On a seperate note is the second season of Spartan Ops included in the pass that came with the Limited Edition?
 

exYle

Member
Sorry for the DP, but I found a (thus far, the only) source for the trailer:
http://kotaku.com/halo-4/

So we've got Thorne fighting off Elites, Palmer referencing Mass Effect (hold the line!), Halsey's interrogation, the aforementioned new area with a possible Scarab, a big-ass space battle, and Gek with some sort of detonator.
 
I don't feel that the AR is overpowered at all. I was working on the master commendation for it and let me tell you, it is painful using the AR against DMRs and BRs. It's difficult enough to flank teams and dodge fire but then they ALSO have motion sensors that allow them to become aware of when you're close anyway.

It sucks.

See, I feel exactly the same way. The DMRs have such a significant advantage at med to long distances that I don't mind the AR's strength at closer ranges.
 

Louis Wu

Member

HokieJoe

Member
Out of every game in the Halo series, this is my favorite thus far. The upgrade in graphics really surprised me. I also think they nailed down the best parts of what Bungie did with the series. I still prefer the sound and feel of the original assault rifle, but other than that I'm very pleased.
 

Tomat

Wanna hear a good joke? Waste your time helping me! LOL!
The Binary Rifle is so damn cool. Hell, I like most of the new race's weapons (their name escapes me right now).

The Supressor seems like garbage though. Anyone know how the Light Rifle stacks up compared to the DMR?
 
You would think by now they can have people leave the matches without bringing everyone to the black new host screen. It happens way more than any other Halo that matches are interrupted.
 

Grisby

Member
So the rest of season 1 is still gonna be free right? It looked pretty good in the VGA trailer.

Thanks for the answers btw guys.
 

i-Lo

Member
So, I have never played a single Halo game online. However, after the recent purchase of Halo 4, I have become rather interested in Spartan OPs. I was hoping to play with some members from GAF who would be volunteering to take a n00b under their collective wings.

Kindly post your XBL ID if you wish to aid me. Thank you. Your acquaintance would be very appreciated.

Please note that the my time zone is GMT -5.

Are there others who are willing to share their XBL tags for Spartan Ops play as mentioned in my own quoted post.

GT:NinjaJesus add me whenever.

Thanks. I'll add you later in the morning today (heading off to bed).
 
The Supressor seems like garbage though. Anyone know how the Light Rifle stacks up compared to the DMR?
The suppressor seems better at even closer ranges than the AR. I've been toasted by jetpack wielders, but not entirely sure why. The light rifle is a four shots to kill zoomed, compared to five shots with the DMR.
 

op_ivy

Fallen Xbot (cannot continue gaining levels in this class)
why is this so much more laggy then reach? i finally get to play tonight after a long week and i'm having the worst games. i actually turned it off after my second dropped match in a row.

:(
 
Oh my bad I was thinking the new stuff in the trailer was Season 2. I get it now and this new content is why they originally said you needed something like 8.4 gb of total HDD space for Halo 4. Part of that 8.4gb is the new stuff after the break.
 

GamerSoul

Member
I don't feel that the AR is overpowered at all. I was working on the master commendation for it and let me tell you, it is painful using the AR against DMRs and BRs. It's difficult enough to flank teams and dodge fire but then they ALSO have motion sensors that allow them to become aware of when you're close anyway.

It sucks.

Heh, same here. While I was working on helping my brother finish the AR commendation I can say my experience is the same. It's very painful against dmr and br users that are pretty decent. All they have to do is keep at a distance and land their headshots and you won't stand a chance unless you can strafe like a boss.

Yup. All of Season 1 is free.

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my new favorite fuck around thing to do on solace is do a running jump booster pack into the light tunnel from either side and get rocketed into the air. rain nades and gun fire down on the enemy.

i love this game :3
 

Gr1mLock

Passing metallic gas
I don't feel that the AR is overpowered at all. I was working on the master commendation for it and let me tell you, it is painful using the AR against DMRs and BRs. It's difficult enough to flank teams and dodge fire but then they ALSO have motion sensors that allow them to become aware of when you're close anyway.

It sucks.

For once its actually useful and people are already calling for it to get nerfed. I really dislike the nerf this nerf that talk. There's no gun in the game that is too good. Period. In fact there are some that could use a decent buff.
 

Woorloog

Banned
For once its actually useful and people are already calling for it to get nerfed. I really dislike the nerf this nerf that talk. There's no gun in the game that is too good. Period. In fact there are some that could use a decent buff.

Binary Rifle, Incinerator Cannon, DMR.
The first two are power-power weapons. Annoying, if i can pick them up, there is no reason not to (other power weapon choise are just so much worse compared to those).
The DMR... well, it is just too useful everywhere. I can shoot snipers before they can even hit me, i beat Lightrifle easily. I beat BRs easily, if they miss a burst partially i win. CQB weapons are no problem if i can shoot them before they get in range.
Reducing the DMR's rate of fire very, very slightly should balance it out compared to others. The Carbine would suck still though, needs a buff.
 
I have a survey in this post so that way lurkers aren't filling it out immediately. I'd like to gain a broader idea of what people think of Halo 4 as a whole.


If you'd fill it out, it would be appreciated. Your usernames are optional, but I placed it in there if you wanted me to know your specific feedback.

Done. What are you planning to dowith it?
 

Gr1mLock

Passing metallic gas
Binary Rifle, Incinerator Cannon, DMR.
The first two are power-power weapons. Annoying, if i can pick them up, there is no reason not to (other power weapon choise are just so much worse compared to those).
The DMR... well, it is just too useful everywhere. I can shoot snipers before they can even hit me, i beat Lightrifle easily. I beat BRs easily, if they miss a burst partially i win. CQB weapons are no problem if i can shoot them before they get in range.
Reducing the DMR's rate of fire very, very slightly should balance it out compared to others. The Carbine would suck still though, needs a buff.

DMR doesnt have a glaring advantage compared to other rifles. It can be outplayed with other rifles. Carbine needs a buff. LR im honestly not sure. Sometimes it feels great and sometimes it doesnt. Power weapons I also feel are beatable. Incinerator is pretty close to being 'free kills' but missing that first shot is a death sentence if they close the distance. There's nothing in this game that has made me honestly feel like the 74u or the m16 or the FAMAS. Nothing has made me go 'Fuck that gun this is bullshit'.
 

Petrichor

Member
I don't feel that the AR is overpowered at all. I was working on the master commendation for it and let me tell you, it is painful using the AR against DMRs and BRs. It's difficult enough to flank teams and dodge fire but then they ALSO have motion sensors that allow them to become aware of when you're close anyway.

It sucks.

Agreed. The AR/precision weapon balance is perfect for the first time in the series, its the intra-precision weapon balance that needs addressing, namely there's no reason to use anything other than the DMR.

AR shouldn't be used as a primary though - its useful as a secondary for CQC. A DMR/AR loadout is pretty unbeatable unless you're up against boltshot spammers.
 
Agreed. The AR/precision weapon balance is perfect for the first time in the series, its the intra-precision weapon balance that needs addressing, namely there's no reason to use anything other than the DMR.

AR shouldn't be used as a primary though - its useful as a secondary for CQC. A DMR/AR loadout is pretty unbeatable unless you're up against boltshot spammers.

I have a specific Loadout that uses AR or Suppressor as primary. As long as I'm not playing a longer range map like complex, I can just pick up whatever primary weapon people drop upon death. Sure, I have to wait for someone to die, but that takes a few seconds. People die so fast that I'm always picking up ammo. If I get caught before I get a precision weapon, I always have my magnum.

That way I get my automatic weapon, which people generally cannot deal with as well at close range because they insist upon using a mid to long range weapon (lightrifle, BR, DMR) up close. It takes "more skill" because it wasn't meant for that range. I use an automatic weapon up close and I almost always win.

Now, if those people start catching on and either a) start rolling my loadout and not bringing precision weapons into the mix, or b) keep spamming dat boltshot, then maybe 'll change my strategy. But I don't see "a" happening any time ever.
 
So many fond memories of objective based BTB games in the Halo series. Why does 343 want us to go around and just shoot at each other for 10 minutes on these big maps? What a waste.
I realize there is some objective based 6v6. I want my 8v8 like every other Halo.
 

Louis Wu

Member
why is this so much more laggy then reach? i finally get to play tonight after a long week and i'm having the worst games. i actually turned it off after my second dropped match in a row.

:(
It's been mentioned a couple of times, but it's easy to miss, so it's worth repeating:

When a TU drops, all stuff like network history gets reset - so the week or so after a TU has tons of rough connections, while the system is relearning who makes a good host and whose connection sucks. This has been true for every game back to Halo 2. (There have only been a few TUs, in total, for ALL Halo titles, so it's not something that sticks in most people's minds.)

Wait a few days - this problem will sort itself out.
 

Alo81

Low Poly Gynecologist
Alright I haven't played a competitive FPS since Perfect Dark Zero and Halo 2 before that, so did people just start getting like, REALLY bad at Halo?

I've come in first place in 10 of my 17 total matches, and am rank 15 now.

At first I thought it was just average newcomers sucking, but I noticed that I'm often getting matched up with people in the 40's and 50's.

Is this happening with anyone else here?
 

SpeedingUptoStop

will totally Facebook friend you! *giggle* *LOL*
Alright I haven't played a competitive FPS since Perfect Dark Zero and Halo 2 before that, so did people just start getting like, REALLY bad at Halo?

I've come in first place in 10 of my 17 total matches, and am rank 15 now.

At first I thought it was just average newcomers sucking, but I noticed that I'm often getting matched up with people in the 40's and 50's.

Is this happening with anyone else here?

People get points/leveled up just for playing. Bush's America, man.
 
did they buff the enemies in spartan ops or did they missions just get more grandiose? im just playing them on easy to get the EXP and see it through and ive died more in the 2nd and 3rd missions on episode 4 than i have in all of spartan ops so far.
 
Binary Rifle, Incinerator Cannon, DMR.
The first two are power-power weapons. Annoying, if i can pick them up, there is no reason not to (other power weapon choise are just so much worse compared to those).
The DMR... well, it is just too useful everywhere. I can shoot snipers before they can even hit me, i beat Lightrifle easily. I beat BRs easily, if they miss a burst partially i win. CQB weapons are no problem if i can shoot them before they get in range.
Reducing the DMR's rate of fire very, very slightly should balance it out compared to others. The Carbine would suck still though, needs a buff.

Especially in BTB with plasma loadouts. Try using a vehicle and see how long you last.
 
I realize there is some objective based 6v6 heavies.

fixed.

Domination is a clusterfuck in its current state.
Lots of potential, but having 10 power weapons and 4 vehicles on a map at any given time is just ridiculous.

Halo 4 is socialist: everyone can have a power weapon, no matter if he earned it or not. #obamashalo
 
fixed.

Domination is a clusterfuck in its current state.
Lots of potential, but having 10 power weapons and 4 vehicles on a map at any given time is just ridiculous.

This.

is exactly the problem. BTB gamtypes used to have 1 or 2 vehicle counter weapons. Now there everyone has a plasma pistol, plasma nades and ordinance.
 
Aright I am now in the camp that feels the AR is overpowered. Too my spray and pray with that thing these days. I understand it can be used a a primary but damn that gun pisses me off


Its not just the AR, its all the automatic weapons. Paired with Jetpack and it is just cheap. The level is just right for past Halo games if EVERYONE has an AR start an no Jetpack.
 

EvB

Member
I just realised the new maps are out on Monday and I'm away for work for 7 days . Darn It.

Why does it alwys happen like this?

Like inadvertently planning a 3 week holiday when Reach came out? I was caressing a display box of it in a gamestop in Munich.
 

wwm0nkey

Member
Saw this in the concept art

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I feel like this should have been used in-game rather than for the trailer. MASSIVE missed opportunity to see Johns past in-game and maybe hear the Didact explain his motives more.
 
Is anyone else experiencing uneven team a lot? I don't know if its the patch or the user base dwindling but I am getting sick of it. I am also getting sick of matches being interrupted with that black screen every time someone quits.
 

Karl2177

Member
Done. What are you planning to do with it?

I'm using it to gain a broader sample of people's opinions of the game. I'm generally negative about it, but what I say isn't law. There are other perspectives and I feel I might enjoy it more if I can understand those viewpoints. I might even pass the survey on the 343 or something so they can get strict data about what they can improve about the game. Stuff like this shows a trend about what people do and don't like that they can't quite show through voting options and such.

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And I'm opening a giant can of worms, but here you go lurkers. I want your opinion too.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dFlxSVJPbm11UWR4YUhkVGZuSTg5Y3c6MQ#gid=0
 
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