Frank Serpico
Banned
worst campaign for sure in the series
Halo MCC Playlist Popularity, Ordered by Population
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worst campaign for sure in the series
After the mass exodus from halo 4, 343i made a ton of changes that made it more like what people expect from halo MP. Many People who left (myself included) didn't know these changes happened until MCC. Other People who hadn't experienced it at all until MCC are getting a better first impression.
Except Reach launched alongside Black Ops and Battlefield 3, and held a steady 100K the next year and a half against MW3 and every other game released in that period, where Halo 4 dropped below 100k in months.
nekkid
It doesn't matter who we are, what matters is our plan.
DUFFMCWALIN
Member
Yup swat is awesome.
That's not really true, it's in the top ten most played games on the X1. Whilst that might not be massive by Halo's standards, it's certainly not dead.
Welfare
Member
Halo 3 went up against 3 Call of Duty's (4, WaW, MW2) and a whole bunch of other games, and never dropped from the top 3 most played 360 titles until Halo Reach came out.
Halo Reach fared a bit worse, dropping out of the top 3 after about a year and never came back, but did not drop out of the top 10 until Halo 4 came out.
Halo 4 did so fucking bad that it dropped out of the top 3 after 3 months and the top 10 in under 1 year, and was competing with Black Ops 1, the game that Reach launched next to.
That "different times" excuse is bullshit. Once Halo started leaning more towards CoD, people left to go play what Halo was now trying to ape.
That's why I put quotes around dead.
I remember a few months ago, people found out the population of bf4 was around 15-20k and Halo was lower than that. Really wish we had a population counter.
nekkid
It doesn't matter who we are, what matters is our plan.
Why?
Let people play games based on what they like, rather than what other people are playing. In fact, I'd argue that counters do a lot of harm to the populations of all but the top two or three games.
Oh, okay.
The MCC is typically above BF4 nowadays actually, the game being mostly fixed and bundling with the X1 seems to have done a fairly good job bolstering the community.
Naked Lunch
Member
Just goes to show you these internet Halo 4 haters who make a billion threads and flood every Halo thread with their thoughts are the tinniest of factions.
Good to see BTB at the top - its always been my favorite thing about Halo. I do agree the MCC community votes on 4 a bit too much in BTB though. It would be nice to see some forge maps make it to BTB. Halo 3 and 4 had some essential BTB ones.
Good to see BTB at the top - its always been my favorite thing about Halo. I do agree the MCC community votes on 4 a bit too much in BTB though. It would be nice to see some forge maps make it to BTB. Halo 3 and 4 had some essential BTB ones.
Jessie.Bristol
Member
Halo 2 Classic still has those issues from the Halo 2 Vista port where BR and Sniper shots have trouble connecting at range. I recently had a match in H2C where I shot a guy twice in the head with a sniper and did not do any damage to him/her.
JumPeRJumPzZ
Banned
It would be cool if they could change the H4 playlist to 4v4. 5v5 on some maps is just a clusterfuck.
Head.spawn
Junior Member
Halo 4 sucks, everyone hates Halo 4, fuck 343 for running Halo into the ground with Halo 4, look at these charts of how fast Halo 4 fell off the map, look at this Halo 3 chart (best Halo)...
Halo MCC Popularity List:... fucking Halo 4.
I'll be honest, I'm shocked to see it so high and Halo 2 down so low. Scoreboard doesn't lie though.
I remember that pointless thread, it was also pointed out that the games fluctuated constantly and about 5 minutes into that thread Halo was above BF4 in the active player popularity list. The majority of the time, Halo was above BF4 when I checked.
Halo MCC Popularity List:... fucking Halo 4.
I'll be honest, I'm shocked to see it so high and Halo 2 down so low. Scoreboard doesn't lie though.
I remember that pointless thread, it was also pointed out that the games fluctuated constantly and about 5 minutes into that thread Halo was above BF4 in the active player popularity list. The majority of the time, Halo was above BF4 when I checked.
JayhawkerStL
Banned
I like all of the Halo games. I'm glad they aren't just carbon copies of each other.
I don't want to search in a playlist that has a really low pop. The game already has long search times in some of the most popular playlists.
not really it just proves that 343 slaughtered the old school Halo fanbase lol. doesnt mean Halo 4 is good at all.
I can't tell you how many of my friends bought MCC and an X1 just to play Halo 2 and just about every single one of the got fed up and quit altogether after a decades worth of failure and disappointment, this game was the last straw.
I get on 2 nights a week still every week and can tell you H3 and H4 are still as piss poor as they always were. Go into any playlist that votes H2 H3 H4 and H4 will never win a single vote and H2 wins a majority of the time.
If they did a population counter the first month I can guarantee you H1 and H2 would have been top half of the list along with H3 and H4 would be near rock bottom.
Dont let them fool you. Theres a reason theyre just putting out these numbers now haha. its basically a desperate "Hey look at H4, we told you it was good!"
nah try again 343
wesleyshark
Banned
Yes, yes. And in addition, each one has been a refinement on the previous. All in all, Halo 4 is the best mp, easily, so far.
FunkyMunkey
Banned
absolutely, the game is trash
bobs...onGaf
Member
Yep going to agree with this.
I have played more halo 2 and 3 customs than I have played matchmaking at all
sadly 343 will look at this as an excuse to further ruin halo
ProvenDeadly
Member
Well I guess the 15k that played Halo 4 on 360 a few weeks after launch came over to play Halo 4 on MCC. The millions of other fans probably ditched MCC at this point. It's pretty bad.
Welfare
Member
It's for convenience. Should I bother now, or wait until later when more people are on? Will more people be on? Will the game not even care and still take minutes to search?
MCC is too random to accurately gauge when it's a good time to search, and I don't want to check the top played games and compare the game to bfstats every time I want to play.
secretanchitman
Member
For me I'm probably the exception. I liked Halo 4 but I absolutely did not tolerate the bugs in MCC so much that I returned my Xbone and MCC.
ProvenDeadly
Member
And this will make 343 actually believe a majority of people like Halo 4, completing ignoring they scared away hardcore halo fans by releasing a shitty collection of games, and that Halo 4s population fell through the floor.
Fata1moose
Banned
They should patch Halo 4 so the thruster pack keeps you in first person and you can continue to shoot, couple that with legendary BRs and I'd actually play it quite a bit.
Really though I just want Halo 5.
Jessie.Bristol
Member
Yeah, Halo 4 is really good now. But honestly, I think the Halo 5 Beta bested it easily and that makes the wait for Halo 5 that much more difficult.
nekkid
It doesn't matter who we are, what matters is our plan.
BTB still has the longest search times, but is the most popular. I can't see that knowing the population would help you, to be honest.
SpartanN92
Banned
I do have to give 343i some credit regarding Halo 4... They really worked hard to fix that game. The title updates and changes to Halo 4 really helped... Most people had long since stopped playing by the time the changes were implemented.
They basically changed H4 the way Reach received a title update in 2011. They made enough tweaks and changes that it feels like an entirely new game.
They basically changed H4 the way Reach received a title update in 2011. They made enough tweaks and changes that it feels like an entirely new game.
RichiRamjag
Member
Yep going to agree with this.
I have played more halo 2 and 3 customs than I have played matchmaking at all
sadly 343 will look at this as an excuse to further ruin halo
Most of my Halo 2 loving pals hit the road for better pastures sadly.
ProvenDeadly
Member
Also the difference between the number one playlist and the 13th playlist is probably only a few hundred at this point.
Basically this post. VVV
I never would've guessed BtB being #1 mostly because of the really long search times. There's just not knowing because I cannot see how many people are in the playlist.
tiredheadcrab
Member
SWAT isnt dead which is good. I love SWAT.
Fata1moose
Banned
I mostly play BTB, because that's the playlist where having bad players is more manageable, you rely on them less as there's less of a chance their in your vicinity. I'd say my favorite games in the collection to play would be CE, 2, 4, 2 Anniversary and then 3 in that order. CE is sometimes pretty borked on peer to peer connections, but I still like it nothing beats the CE magnum and crazy physics. 2 and 4 seem to be the most reliable as they offer hit scan weapons. 3 is the worst to play with it's awful BR, but can be fun on dedicated servers. 2A seems to meet the most lag/latency for me and with little map variety I get sick of it (would really like to see Midship). To me, Swat cuts away some of my favorite mechanics in Halo. Weapon control on maps and longer TTK that requires actual thinking and not who sees who first.
You'd think the hardcore players would be the ones who would put up with some bugs to play, not the casual "H4 kids"...
Yea. It's like with this post:
What exactly are better pastures for a Halo 2 lover, than Halo 2? Are they all playing CoD today or something?
ProvenDeadly
Member
The hardcore Halo fans don't put up with 343s bullshit, and the people who barely understand how to grip a controller are the ones I constantly play in MCC. Most of my hardcore friends have quit because they don't have time for incompetence.
ProvenDeadly
Member
I know a lot of people who bought XB1 and came back to Halo for this game and when it turned out to be garbage they either quit gaming or went back to CSGO
AcePartyN7
Member
I still do not see why they keep team hardcore and don't put infection instead.
Doug Heffernan
Member
Y'all just need to accept that you are in the minority when it comes to your stance on Halo 4. It's a great game and I'm pleased that the playlist population reflects that.
RichiRamjag
Member
I think it's safe to say they're no longer Halo lovers. CS:Go is a big one they play.
I originally quit on it last year. Used to eat, sleep, and breathe halo, but I'm not that same 18 year old anymore and it was easy to walk away last year when it was bugged on released and go to other stuff. I just came back tbh.
ProvenDeadly
Member
Well I would argue that you are the minority considering both Halo 4 on 360 and MCC on xb1 on average had a population of about 15-20k while Halo 3 had 800k+ for 3 years.
TheSinkingKnight
Member
Wow, only 2v2. Jeeze.
Fata1moose
Banned
I really enjoyed CE as a 3v3 playlist, to me that was the sweet spot. Might encourage parties of 3 to go into the playlist as well, then they avoid the potential of a bad random.
Naked Lunch
Member
So where did they move on to? Some kinda "hardcore" fans they are. You would think the hardcore would stick it out not leave at the drop of a hat - especially considering H2 is not playable online anywhere else. The numbers are plain as day - and proves the internet H4 haters are the vast minority.