Oh no.Those of you discussing the latest Bulletin on the Halo Channel and the pause at 1:05 you can see the list of Spartan AAs:
- Smart Scope (oh god wtf is this)
- Thruster Pack
- Stabilizer (hover)
- Spartan charge (which if you look to the far left monitor you can see as hes sprinting his
< > reticule goes green over a friendly indicating a requirement for spartan charge to be sprinting
- Ground pound
- can't read last one
Halo |OT 20| It really does feel like Halo
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Gabotron ES
Member
Spartan models look straight from H4, the armor we saw in the IGN preview looked much better and "next gen".
To be fair these models look nothing like what we've seen from IGN and that was official, I highly assume like the baseball card menus in the latest bulletin on Halo channel that they're completely placeholder. I mean the difference in those models compared to what we saw from IGN is like PS2 to PS4 era difference.
This. I'm not sure why 343 is such a fan of these dull desaturated colors. A tad bit of an increase in the saturation makes a nice difference.
Just realized by looking closer...
Nice SMGs there! :-D
Does this mean we're gonna go back to the SMG/BR starts debate all over again?
K
kittens
Unconfirmed Member
His wording was: "Using the Smart Scope with the DMR meant headshots, and lots of them, though return fire now brings players back out of the scope as it did in previous Halo games."
Demoncarnotaur
Member
Perhaps 'smart scope' is the term used for weapons that do not use the ADS aesthetic?
Wait... waht?
The hell is smart scope? How does hover work? So many questions.
That really has to be it because this a major drop in quality compared to those renders.
Bregmann Roche
Member
Halo 4: preview leaked from a barn.
Halo 5: preview written by a barn.
Can you imagine if an article like that appeared in the Wall Street Journal?
"This stock is kind of whatever with all of its moving up and down and also jetpacks and earnings. I bought a lot of shares with the new Smart Buy--which I'm totally not going to describe in any useful way because to me words are just things that come out of my mouth that only sometimes match the pictures in my head. Also: I'm so fucking sick of capital markets."
Halo 5: preview written by a barn.
Can you imagine if an article like that appeared in the Wall Street Journal?
"This stock is kind of whatever with all of its moving up and down and also jetpacks and earnings. I bought a lot of shares with the new Smart Buy--which I'm totally not going to describe in any useful way because to me words are just things that come out of my mouth that only sometimes match the pictures in my head. Also: I'm so fucking sick of capital markets."
Poodlestrike
Banned
Those of you discussing the latest Bulletin on the Halo Channel and the pause at 1:05 you can see the list of Spartan AAs:
- Smart Scope (oh god wtf is this
- Thruster Pack
- Stabilizer (hover)
- Spartan charge (which if you look to the far left monitor you can see as hes sprinting his
< > reticule goes green over a friendly indicating a requirement for spartan charge to be sprinting
- Ground pound
- can't read last one
Hnnn... interesting. I like the thruster pack, for sure, but I'm not certain about the rest. We'll see how it looks in the reveal and the beta.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Seems like the best case scenario.
K
kittens
Unconfirmed Member
Yeah, I bet you're right. I don't see it being a Spartan Ability, though. That makes no sense.
lmao
Fata1moose
Banned
I like how they said they changed the color of Lockout due to a blue advantage and Halo 5 has a map that is almost entirely the same shade of blue as the players. Granted, it was CA who handled Lockout and 343 with 5. That map looks awesome though. The ground pound, vault and double jump seem dumb, like the sound of thruster pack though.
Garrett 2U
Member
I love how clean the maps look so far.
That's an excellent improvement.
That's an excellent improvement.
I no longer have interest in playing the beta.
This sounds like a B game designers masterpiece.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Easily alol9.
IMO, it needs to cover a distance greater than the Halo 4 thruster pack, but maybe not as far as Reach's Evade. I do like the idea of only one use before cooldown, but I always thought Halo 4's cooldown for thruster pack was still too long. Maybe a cooldown of about 4 seconds or so?
EDIT: Maybe the "Thruster Pack" is what's used to achieve all the movement options? In that way, once airborne, you then have to decide to either hover, double-jump or ground pound?
Bregmann Roche
Member
Didn't this guy say he was getting headshots with it? I don't trust him to get headshots with a traditional Halo scope.
My hype level has weathered this storm and I am still anxiously awaiting MCC and the 1080p 60fps (mostly) that come with it.
Poodlestrike
Banned
So, so much better than spawning with just one of a selection of possible AAs it's not even funny.
Nope. It's many times worse
Please stop calling this game halo 5. It isn't a halo game.
Poodlestrike
Banned
It really is. Being able to tell exactly what your opponents options are is a huge step up from the roulette that was Reach and 4. Unless the abilities are well and truly broken, this is nothing but good news for the skill gap.
True dat. Take Destiny's Crucible for example. It's not bad, hell it's even downright FUN at times, but I'll tell you what it's God-damn frustrating when you round a corner never knowing if the enemy on the motion tracker is just gonna pull out a Super from their back pocket and OHKO you.
believe, man
C'mon don't make the same mistake everyone made last night.
Let's wait until we actually find out how everything works before getting all salty.
K
kittens
Unconfirmed Member
We don't know how they work, so it's too early to say, but I can imagine them being implemented in a way that just adds to the toolset. There's no reason this stuff has to conflict with the spirit of Halo. These are radical changes, yes, but if they are in line with what Halo has tried to achieve in the past, then I'm open minded.
Except for vaulting over walls. That sounds totally pointless, lol.
Perhaps. My concern is just being able to do exactly what you want, when you want it. Everyone knows how annoying it could be to unintentionally trigger assassination animations.
Ein Bear
Member
Not been tooooo bad, Halo CE shot up to 100% after about an hour, so have just fired that up.
Guys.
60fps Halo feels insane.
Fahzgoolin
Banned
Those of you discussing the latest Bulletin on the Halo Channel and the pause at 1:05 you can see the list of Spartan AAs:
- Smart Scope (oh god wtf is this
Latest info from BioGamer Girl:
Future PhaZe
Member
cant say I mind the changes--as long as its map control based then we should be okay
Hyperbole is nice
You seem to not understand what hyperbole is.
In relation to this: "this looks good!" Is hyperbole
"This isn't a halo game" is fact.
Yeah the ledge grabbing is eh imo but we'll see how it works.
Speaking of which, I wonder if those will be back.
Halo 5: Guardians aka Not DopeyFish's Halo
Poodlestrike
Banned
True. Still, I'm mostly thinking about how they compare to the AAs in Reach and 4. Even the better AAs were still effectively random from a player perspective; maybe that guy has thruster pack, or maybe he's got the hard light shield, or maybe... it meant that whatever potential they might have had as a tool to increase the skill gap was totally squandered, since nobody (NOBODY!) could be prepared for every eventuality. Making them a known quantity is much, much better.
Opinions, how do they work?
I'll agree, but I have to admit my inner 10-year-old was giddily awakened everytime I assassinated someone even if only to have my own death immediately follow. So it was satisfying to a point.
It's like trying to sell Halo:CE as the next quake.
This game is vastly different to Halo games in every respect.
I get your frustrations man. Halo has to evolve in some form to keep going though. How would you change things around but still keep it Halo?
This. I'm not sure why 343 is such a fan of these dull desaturated colors. A tad bit of an increase in the saturation makes a nice difference.
That's huge! I love it. Immediately makes it look a lot more Halo. Man that's sexy. 343 pls.
*shudders*
Bungie Roundtable: Hey guys, you know what would make Coagulation play even better than starting everyone with SMGs? How about ammo on the map for rockets and the sniper rifle!?!
K
kittens
Unconfirmed Member
Yup, agreed. We're already used to watching out for melees, possession of power weapons, grenades, etc. And in Halo 2 we had to watch out for the added variable of button glitches -- something many people praised. Now we have a whoooole lot else to watch out for. Some of it might be terrible, some of it might work really consistently with the classic Halo formula.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Speaking of SMG starts, I'm curious about starting weapons. The preview (ugh) mentioned that people had SMGs, the DMR rifle [sic], and the pistol? I doubt it's a 3 weapon start, so I'm thinking they might be doing one of SMG/pistol, DMR(or BR, god only knows what this guy thinks a DMR is)/pistol or DMR/SMG depending on map or gametype.
I will point out that all evidence we have thus far of "evolving Halo gameplay" has in fact led to lower and lower population numbers.