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Halo |OT 21| Battle is the Great Redeemer | LIVE. DIE. RESPAWN.
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Der Flatulator
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I dont think 343 is going to have a pleasant thanksgiving weekend. the uneven team problem is really anoying, and from an end user perspective looks like something easy to fix. hopefully 343 release a statement today with what is going on and when will should expect another patch.
Prinz Eugn
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So, MCC related, thinking about who might be cruisin' for a (legal/financial) bruisin'
A reminder:
Their news page has really died down in the past couple months, too, presumably due to crunch.
A reminder:
Their news page has really died down in the past couple months, too, presumably due to crunch.
NobleGundam
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If something seems almost too good to be true than the master chief collection probably is.
ElzarTheBam
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Yeah, a couple of my friend that gave up on Halo before, where saying this was too good to be true. I think only giving Halo 2 remastered should had been better.
Prinz Eugn
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Here's a try, re: MCC UI and United Front Games:
https://twitter.com/PrinzEugn/status/535803486202781697
https://twitter.com/PrinzEugn/status/535803486202781697
Instant classic! Bravo good sir!
# All maps we did include are vanilla launch variants and not updated matchmaking versions.
~ SMG and AR starts are default.
This is very sad, I hope they can get their shit together.
By the way, I found a way to find matches quicker with a party. You wont stick together(not like you could before) but what you do is search for a game by yourself. Then invite everyone into your search. For some reason this finds matches a lot faster. It does have some odd issues tho.
We ended up having 13 players on elongation in team slayer. that map is meant for 8 or less.
It worked pretty slick last night until matchmaking data couldn't update.
By the way, I found a way to find matches quicker with a party. You wont stick together(not like you could before) but what you do is search for a game by yourself. Then invite everyone into your search. For some reason this finds matches a lot faster. It does have some odd issues tho.
We ended up having 13 players on elongation in team slayer. that map is meant for 8 or less.
It worked pretty slick last night until matchmaking data couldn't update.
The Henery
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I imagine at this point that the Halo 5 beta is resolutely more stable than the dismantled, smoking wreckage that is Halo CE, Halo 2, Halo 2 Anniversary, Halo 3 and Halo 4 all sitting in one house without a roof while fire rains from the sky. I'd advocate them releasing the H5 beta right this second if it was functioning matchmaking wise. Then they fix MCC in time for Crimbo. I'm not even that bothered about h5 but I'd like some form of halo to play on the Xbox one that doesn't turn its nose up at me when I try to get a game going with three friends.
An irl friend is giving me shit for badgering him to buy an Xbox one and MCC. I've been telling him it's going to be fixed "soon", every other day for the last week and half. I'm starting to look like a right Cee You En Tee
An irl friend is giving me shit for badgering him to buy an Xbox one and MCC. I've been telling him it's going to be fixed "soon", every other day for the last week and half. I'm starting to look like a right Cee You En Tee
Skullface
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Well I shall see you next Tuesday.
Gabotron ES
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Did 343i develope anything related to MCC, looks like they outsourced everything and then ductaped the parts hoping it would work.
hint: it doesn't.
hint: it doesn't.
ElzarTheBam
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This is the issue with the MCC front and center.
I'm fairly certain that if they launched the Halo 5 beta in whatever state is current in RIGHT NOW, it would run smoother and more consistently than MCC. I think that's the worst issue with the MCC is that 343i's reputation is basically permanently tarnished despite the fact that they're more than capable of launching game they personally developed just fine.
Dat H5 Beta can't come soon enough now it seems...
I say gotdamn son!
Man, imagine if I could search matchmaking and get balanced, ranked, lag-free games of Halo CE against skilled players. It would almost make this disaster worth it.
This is something I've noticed as well. I'm just as annoyed at 343 for not producing a working product as most people. However a bunch of people have claimed this just proves that 343 can't make a working product at all. Halo 4 may not have been the Halo people wanted but on the whole it worked very well.
So since the patch I have played 1 game. In the same amount of time searching before I would have got about 5 - 10 matches. How did they manage to break it even more?
Edit: found a second game! Halo 2 on dedis is so, so good.
I'll do it for you: "poor" and "eventually." Seriously though, who cares what they post. Until they show something that indicates and degree of competence in regard to the management, communication, and repair of this product, there's no reason to listen to what they have to say.
Much of it was outsourced, though supposedly they were directly involved in the porting of Halo 3, the development of H2A, and then responsible for quality assurance, design, infrastructure, and mixing it all together.
ViewtifulJC
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welp
The Henery
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The patch improved matchmaking search times for some players, but we are aware there are still persistent issues for others. We are working around the clock to address these issues. We thank you for your continued patience and support.
Yeah they need to do something the get the heat off of them.
Umm I care?
They're clearly working hard to fix it and I doubt anyone at 343 is happy this happened. They have been communicating progress, they gave us progress, but apparantley this game is buggier than was imagined. I doubt its something like "Yeah johnny just needs to rewrite some code and We'll have it fixed by monday!"
It would be nice if there was slightly more transparency. Like what this one bug was that cascaded down and rekt the entire game.
I think the studio is stretched way too thin. Maybe its pressure from MS to pump out more Halo shit but they REALLY need to tone it down. Everyone was fine with a Halo game every few years and a book here and there.
But now they got the insane package that is Halo MCC, still working on Halo 5, and that Spartan Strike Mobile game. Still churning out comics, books, and toys. Making the Halo Channel and making time consuming videos of pointless shit like map walkthroughs... Making Halo Nightfall and that other Halo movie or series or whatever spielberg is doing.
And who knows what they're working on that isn't even announced yet.
We just wanna play a good, solid Halo game, mang. I ended up playing each Halo game pretty much consistently until the next title came out, and I think a lot of folks here on HaloGAF could probably say the same. If they absolutely NAILED the MCC, I would've been fine not seeing Halo 5 released until 2016... and at this point I would've gladly waited for MCC until early 2015 if it were to have a mostly working launch. It would've kept us busy for a long while, but now it's a waiting game--one where we don't know when it will end or how many people have the patience to deal with that process.
Really, Halo 5 should be delayed until 2016. I imagine right now 343 is probably split between Halo 5 work and fixing MCC. Put Halo 5 on the shelf for 6 months, let 343 focus on just fixing Master Chief Collection. Halo 5 will sell perfectly fine if it's not in the November launch window, Microsoft, hell it might sell better that way. Also putting Halo 5 on the shelf temporarily will probably give more people confidence about Halo 5's quality - because pooling one dev team between fixing one game and making another is only going to hurt both.
Prinz Eugn
Member
Exactly.
Who knew that if you subcontracted almost everything out that you might run into unforeseen problems with quality and schedules? Oh, only everybody with even the vaguest awareness of how businesses work? Huh.
It's really starting to bother me that they sunk so much time and effort into Nightfall when they should have very obviously put more attention into, you know, their videa game business. Iceland is pretty, but...
RowdyReverb
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It's a good idea, but I have a suspicion that the H5 beta shares a lot of the matchmaking code with MCC. Releasing it now could just add to the list of Halo games that are difficult to find matches for.
MCC will stay broken forever before this happens.
Oh, I agree. But right now delaying Halo 5 seems like the right thing to do. MCC's bad launch will do more damage to the Halo franchise and to the XB1 in general than Halo 5 will be able to repair.
Yeah. I understand that 343i has been putting more man-hours in towards Halo 5 than MCC, but I'm seriously concerned that they may be undervaluing how much a negative public perception of MCC will sour gamers' opinion of the company in general and be even MORE pessimistic towards Halo 5 or even flat out stay away from the Halo franchise in general.
It really should be "all hands on deck" for MCC right now for this very reason, otherwise Microsoft is going to have to step in real soon for a massive apology or something bold.
RowdyReverb
Member
It makes me a little sad that I never see Stinkles around here lately. He hasn't even tweeted since the 13th. It's really a shame that people treat him as if he were personally responsible for this mess. Would be nice to get updates from him now.
VisceralBowl
Member
No blop in HCE in combination with the garbage netcode and lack of dedicated servers is really killing the fun for HCE matches.
On the bright side, I've been getting more matches today.
On the bright side, I've been getting more matches today.
I think the main reason he isn't around and talking much lately is because he's helping with the MCC fixes.
Enter The 36 Chambers
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I doubt the same people who worked on nightfall have very much to do with the games.
Also Frank is the face of the company in a lot of ways. As cool a guy as frank is, id love to see him stop posting here only to watch all the waypoint folks dissappear as well. I have a sneaking suspicion a lot of Halo fans flock here because him and Ellis are kinda regulars (now and then).
I've posted my fair share of bullshit about this game. I just don't understand why people keel trying MM when they know it doesn't work. Why even bother anymore, just wait until it actually works. Can't even be mad anymore. We're in for a long journey to a working game here, better to just accept it at this stage and wait.
VisceralBowl
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He's probably mopping up the tears of the people that have to work overtime and/or fucked up.
But it does work (sometimes). I've been getting into a bunch of games today. Yesterday I had nearly zero luck. It's basically hit or miss.
I doubt this a lot.
RowdyReverb
Member
Not to be too stalkery, but he still posts in off-topic. I think there's just such a barrage of anger when he shows up that he's just avoiding Halo threads for the most part.
I get that there is an outrage, but it appears that the outrage has already served its purpose now that 343 has vowed to continue releasing patches and working non-stop. It's at the point where some forums have turned into heated, angry echo chambers. The negativity is exhausting.
I saw people the other day going through his post history and trying to insinuate that he and 343i aren't trying to fix this mess but instead were posting here? I don't know. Whatever they were trying to prove it was the most ridiculous thing I've seen on this forum in a long time
I'd steer clear of shit like that too.
Enter The 36 Chambers
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No it doesn't. I played Halo 2 with a team of 4. Those same people can't play together. Working? Fuck nah
Ay what the fuck. Leave the guys posting history out of it. He's not here in an official capacity. It's his personal account.
Jesus you guys are too much sometimes.
To be honest, if I was him I'd avoid gaming side right now as well
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I really like this idea.
ShyGuy0504
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I've noticed that the beep is still in CE.
It's not there when you shoot someone but if you hit someone with a grenade from a long very long distance you can hear the beep very faintly.
I wonder if it's intentional or a glitch.
It's not there when you shoot someone but if you hit someone with a grenade from a long very long distance you can hear the beep very faintly.
I wonder if it's intentional or a glitch.
Halo Wars 2 I can feel it. I will also take TPS ODST game( not a sequel to ODST just a game with them)
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