Hell will probably freeze over before anyone praises the quick time events in 4.
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Halo |OT 23| Thruster is Love, Thruster is Life
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You mean like instrumental music? Yes, I do and it's pretty cool.
As for QTE, yes I hate them aswell. It was something that made Halo 4 really bad gameplay wise.
Prinz Eugn
Member
I'm still scared of the Warsphinx being a "press X to kill" enemy in Halo 5. :/
Sikamikanico
#1 Dad
Sony Vegas.
I'm just picturing Vapor playing an Album and a track that isn't explicitly a song comes on, Skip track, NEXT.
Playing a game and a cutscene starts, Press Start, NEXT.
A character in the game starts talking, Mash A to skip Dialogue, NEXT.
If he can't skip the cutscene? "Fuck this I'm getting a Beer and refreshing GAF/Beyond."
Playing a game and a cutscene starts, Press Start, NEXT.
A character in the game starts talking, Mash A to skip Dialogue, NEXT.
If he can't skip the cutscene? "Fuck this I'm getting a Beer and refreshing GAF/Beyond."
^ and if you look for the year (or two) old version on Amazon, you can get it for pretty cheap
I can just see it all the build up to fighting it and it just ends up being a QTE where you chuck a grenade at it. Did they ever state why they even did QTE's anyway?
User 73706
Banned
"There are only a handful of vignettes, all of which are unobtrusive"
*mandatory elevator segment in Dawn you can't skip, but can't actually die in, either*
*kills the final boss with a QTE and no actual combat*
*completely breaks campaign theater*
Vapor stopped taking elevators because all you're doing is pushing arbitrary buttons in a linear space and waiting for the next area to load
Vapor swore off treadmills once he realized all you do is hit buttons to run in place and couldn't outrun other people on them
*mandatory elevator segment in Dawn you can't skip, but can't actually die in, either*
*kills the final boss with a QTE and no actual combat*
*completely breaks campaign theater*
Vapor stopped taking elevators because all you're doing is pushing arbitrary buttons in a linear space and waiting for the next area to load
Vapor swore off treadmills once he realized all you do is hit buttons to run in place and couldn't outrun other people on them
Toxikk BTB map / mode came out today....i think if you like Halo BTB you will LOVE this.
Making up for all of Team Red's losses in the H5 Beta.
GringoSuave89
Banned
If you've never done video editing, Windows Movie Maker is relatively simple. It's also crap, but my video came out alright.
Well, thanks for making everyone's opinions up for them, really don't know what we'd do without you here.
Reading between the lines, they were probably mandated, but the vast majority of the QTEs never actually made it into the final game, though remnants of them still exist (the missile into the gravity well, etc.)
Also: To me a single-player game can absolutely be worth $60. I think the Bioshock series is one of them, despite not really enjoying the gameplay all that much (Bioshock games make me appreciate Halo more.) On the other hand, while I could appreciate Spec Ops: The Line's storytelling, the gameplay was so frustrating for me that I gave up on the game entirely. Everyone's got different tolerances. Looking forward to picking up Wolfenstein, but I've still got all these Games with Gold titles to burn through I can't justify actually spending any money on new titles.
SaganIsGOAT
Junior Member
That looks pretty cool
CloudyTuba
Member
Damn that sucked. It really popped my balloon. The whole game I was looking forward to that "fight." At least it was better than the Halo 2 ending. If H4 popped my balloon, H2 slashed my tires.
Better not pull that shit in 5! I want a rematch!
The best name I ever saw for a map was that one where the Heavies Boneyard was going to be called Bonecrusher. Shame it couldn't be used
strim no work
It wasn't for me either, refreshed and now it is up. Dropping some frames because I think bitrate is too low, but looks good enough. Stream looks good enough though.
Yup. QTE are fine for opening doors, but other than that... It's just so cheap. I'd prefer a fight similiar to the 343GS fight, even if it was kinda boring.
That always happened in H3.
No it didn't. It was always tied in the winning screen.
All true statements.
That looks interesting but what kind of name is Toxikk? Is that really the name of the game? It's badder than bad.
Everytime I got a tie, it said "Red Team Wins" at the top of the scoreboard. It was probably just a text glitch and didn't count as a total win but that's what it said.
For a game like Halo, QTEs don't even work for doors. Takes too much out of the basic game.
Havoc2049
Member
Ending Halo 4 with a QTE was just soooo wrong. Ending any game with a QTE is cheap and lazy game design.
The only game that I can think of that implemented QTEs well was Shenmue, with a few low key non-important fights here and there and a few chase scenes that were set up fairly well and somewhat fun to get through.
The only game that I can think of that implemented QTEs well was Shenmue, with a few low key non-important fights here and there and a few chase scenes that were set up fairly well and somewhat fun to get through.
Glad there wasn't more of them then. The two that were there were bad enough.
Doors don't really need a QTE like Karl says you might as well have just a press X to unlock prompt or something of that nature.
Even with this, you only want to do this if you have to load something immediately afterwards, like ODST large city sections or a cutscene.
They don't need them, yeah. I meant more like, if QTE "have" to exist, limit them to non important things like doors.
I could see Chief trying to take down Dadact in stages. Take out his ability to wield things around while you're dodging the shit that he flings at you. Take down his ability to fly.
Shoot him up a bunch. I think after all that I might have been ok with a QTE beat-down in hand-to-hand that ends up with you Leonidas-kicking him off the platform.
SaganIsGOAT
Junior Member
Wow the frame rates of the campaigns in The MCC are so variable they should include a 30fps lock for all campaigns. Halo 3 is the only Campaign that even comes close to accomplishing a smooth 60fps
True this. If there's one thing I would gripe about the most on Halo 4's campaign design it's the fact that the "final climactic battle with the ancient genocidal maniac bent on Humanity's annihilation" comes down to two button presses on a QTE.
Had to be a better way of doing it no?
I think the problem with boss fights in general is if you want to make them feel exceptional, you usually have to change up the mechanics, which in turn makes them feel out of place. Bullet sponges don't really have much appeal.
What makes the Scarabs work is that they operate in wide-open areas with tons of sandbox options for how to tackle them. Want to pick off everyone on board before moving in? You can do that. Want to have a Hornet drop you off on board? You can do that. Want to shoot its legs? You can do that. Want to get behind it with the Hornet and blast it that way? You can do that. And you have four opportunities in the game to try out different options and find out what works.
Compare to the boss fights in Halo 2 and 3shoot them and/or bash them until they drop, with a bonus of being frustrated by holograms and teleportation and shields. Not saying that they're BioShock Lady Comstock levels of frustrating, but they're close.
The original title for Boneyard Heavies was "Boned". We tried to sneak it in but someone in sustain caught on and changed it.
User 73706
Banned
When I first got to the Composer rig thing at the end of Midnight I was totally expecting a Metroid Prime meets CE thing where the Didact was still invulnerable in his bubble, but sporadically fired stuff at you. In turn, you'd have to keep running to new platforms to damage the hardware and expose ports like in the Maw, with Knights occasionally dotting the arena rather than being thrown at you non-stop. It'd be more about dismantling the environment and using the tech against him rather than outright brawling him, and then from there you could possibly insert Cortana to compose him / damage him / collapse the rig on him / fling him into slipspace, etc.
EDIT: You could also damage stuff to temporarily disable the shielding / composer stuff around the Didact and suspend him in stasis to damage him every so often.
Dig it.
Sounds better than bullet sponge boss fights in Destiny at least...
RPGs are different, like Skyrim...I listen to the dialog, it's part of the questing thing...but sometimes I even skip those to get the shit going.
I do not like slow-downs in games, due to cut scenes or dialog. I watched some of the RYSE ones, but then I started skipping them...slows the game down too much.
What with the CTE Didact fight being universally panned, hopefully 343 came up with something for H5 like this in response.
Were CTE fights shit hot back in 2012, or did 343 just run out of time to implement something better?