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Halo |OT12| Last One Out, Get the Lights
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Garrett 2U
Member
Lots of blanks in the story line.
The only remedy for that was the terminals which the majority of players will never see.
There was barely any exploration of Requiem.
There was the Jungle E3 demo level and the level you drive the Warthog through.
The rest of the areas were Forerunner/UNSC structures.
I was extremely disappointed by the lack of Requiem.
There was that one concept art landscape piece that showed the lone Spartan standing on a hillside looking out towards all these cliffs, but there was nothing like that in game.
Also, where was that long grass area from the campaign trailer?
I played through the campaign twice and don't remember seeing that at all.
There just were so many similar environments with different lighting.
Those are all the pieces that make me think the campaign was sliced and diced together, even though I think it was very enjoyable.
Digital Limit
Member
So there it is. DMR is the best. Light Rifle's flinch makes it unusable in a firefight while zoomed, so there's no contest. I'm surprised the Carbine is so slow, though. Maybe it's just disorienting to be shot by it.
thezerofire
Banned
It got nerfed if I recall correctly
Syphon Filter
Member
Halo 3 campaign is incredible.
The encounters were my favorite of any Halo game, but let's admit, it was thin on storyline. Get to Ark - Get Cortana - Blow up Ark - Roll credits
So depending on how you grade a campaign, people will disagree.
Where'd you get these numbers from? Not saying they're incorrect, I'm just curious
Syphon Filter
Member
yea but i think the story was "thin" because it was 1/3 of a trilogy.
NullPointer
Member
Not disagreeing there at all. But for me Firefight was a major addition. That and dual wielding just never felt right.
Would rather DMR and BR were reversed there. BR is supposed to win in medium range engagements because its possible for the last burst to pop the shield *and* get a headshot at the same time - at least according to the game guide. But I do pretty well with either right now, so that's not a big complaint.
bobs...onGaf
Member
Where are these stats from? The Halo 3 BR was apparently 1.6 seconds - shame they nerfed it, but at least the DMR is the same as that.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
What makes the LR's flinch worse than the DMR's?
.2 seconds isn't "badly."
Especially when you take into account the BR allows for sloppy shooting.
Bungie is dearly missed in sooooo many aspects.
Please be developing a Halo-killer FPS with all the complaints of your Halo games in mind.
It has one. It's called the DMR.
Zeouterlimits
Member
You know what's also actually disappointing about Halo 4?
The LE steelbook. The purchase art had me thinking it'd be this shiny grey case that looked cool.
The ugly white box with the grey stencils had me crestfallen when I opened it.
The LE steelbook. The purchase art had me thinking it'd be this shiny grey case that looked cool.
The ugly white box with the grey stencils had me crestfallen when I opened it.
Sure. But how do you feel about microtransactions?
Bungie is dearly missed in sooooo many aspects.
Please be developing a Halo-killer FPS with all the complaints of your Halo games in mind.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Bungie is dearly missed in sooooo many aspects.
Please be developing a Halo-killer FPS with all the complaints of your Halo games in mind.
The company that made Reach has a lot of faith they need to earn back.
Been using the Carbine the past few days and I'm about as competent with it as I am the DMR I think. It does feel more difficult to keep up the high rate of fire while aiming though, but my hope is that it disorients opponents enough to give me an edge. I only use it at close/medium range though. The DMR still clearly dominates at long range.
BR also has slight spread and recoil. DMR has no recoil, minimal bloom, and a 3x scope.
Orochinagis
Member
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
If BR was 4 shot no one would use the DMR OR the light rifle.
Rickenslacker
Banned
The KB+M implementation is complete ass, and no one plays it online.
I think the LR is boned either way not being hitscan, but making the BR 4 shot would make the DMR less definitive a choice. It would be the go-to for long range pingers, but the BRs would apt for the quicker kill despite having a shorter range to work with. Poor Carbine though.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
It plays like shit and servers are laggy pieces of shit.
FUNKNOWN iXi
Member
Are you being facetious or is that legitimately their market strategy with Destiny?
I'm too huge of a fan to dismiss them just after a single misstep that involved their C team and a gun pointed at their heads. If their A team with complete creative freedom and actual passion for the project release a turd like Reach, then they will have lost me forever, until then I still believe in them.
Pay to win can go fuck itself but I don't mind cosmetic stuff.
Edit- I keep forgetting to open my LE to
check it out.
Garrett 2U
Member
I really think the DMR is throwing off the primary rife balancing.
It needs to be a little more difficult to use at close/medium range.
Fix that, and all will fall into place.
Kill times aren't all that is important.
There is ease of use which is pretty important, and rate of fire, which is really important in Halo 4 with flinch.
It needs to be a little more difficult to use at close/medium range.
Fix that, and all will fall into place.
Kill times aren't all that is important.
There is ease of use which is pretty important, and rate of fire, which is really important in Halo 4 with flinch.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
more like RIP enemy team getting spawncamped as fuck
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
HigherLevel
Member
Four amazing Halo games and one really good one in Reach. No reason to doubt Bungie. Plus Jason Jones has been working on it since Halo 3. It's going to be good.
I think a decent amount of people were already started on Destiny stuff?
Depends on what you call their "A" team. You can compare the team leads from the games and see if you think they are the "A" team.
Personally, I don't think they were the "A" team.
Ozzy Onya A2Z
Member
I distinctly remember some official Bungie.net news when Reach began that they broke off a smaller team and took the best bits of engines to then build Reach out of. It's why we saw campaign missions reuse as multiplayer maps and different feature parity to other titles etc.
Personal speculation I've had over a B.net a number of times is Bungie had two more games to deliver and put their B/C teams on ODST & Reach then got their core team focused on Destiny. Of course they couldn't do that officially due to Microsoft but overall I still feel like Destiny has been worked on over at Bungie for many years already, before we even knew about it.
Check out some of my B.net threads if you like:
1. When did destiny development start? Some interesting research...
2. Destiny Game Build (employees taking home to play)
3. Bungie's new game
Syphon Filter
Member
There are games that aren't laggy. im on right now. trey or anyone just give me your tag and ill play with you right now.
HigherLevel
Member
Just talking about Bungie's next project has me hyped. An entirely new universe from them? I'm so ready for that. It is my most anticipated thing at next E3.
Bits of "A" but mostly lots of Sages and Lukes.
No Stathen, Jason Jones, etc. Even Marty phoned in his contribution.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
After Reach, I think I'll wait until I see some actual gameplay before I get hyped for whatever Destiny is.
Syphon Filter
Member
ya it needs wy mroe people. if MS was smart they would put it on Steam and get sales from it. mouse is iffy on campaign but seems good on mutiplayer for me.
yep same for me. Even if the A team is on it again, I'm very sceptical about Bungie right now
Syphon Filter
Member
Reach is great, don't get the hate. Also it was a spinoff so i don't see why people held it at the same standards of Halo 3. Also this doesn't erase what they did with halo 1,2 and 3.
This was my understanding as well. Once they split from Microsoft the main players had moved on to other projects. I had assumed that was why they were going on hiring sprees at one point because they didn't have enough people to work on the last couple of Halos and their next things.
ncsuDuncan
Member
I wouldn't call it an "A" team and a "B" team.
It was just their first mainline game that didn't seem to have all hands contributing. There were plenty of guys from the "A" team working on Reach, but perhaps some portion of the "A" team had already moved on. Kind of like how ODST was a small but dedicated team, but at a different scale.
Reach was an amazing game that had support issues from the divorce/handover to 343.
Destiny has had all-hands contributing since Reach launched (with the exception of the DLC and support teams for a few months). I am unbelievably hyped for Bungie's next game, if they've been content to keep working and stay quiet this long they must really have something special on their hands.
2013. Believe.
The P of Poland
Member
I wouldn't care a whit for Destiny if H4 was actually good.
Now I'm wondering what it will look like.
I've heard it might be an MMO or an RPG? That true?
Now I'm wondering what it will look like.
I've heard it might be an MMO or an RPG? That true?
For the last time.
Bungie didn't re-use campaign maps for multiplayer. Every multiplayer map was made for multiplayer FIRST and then slotted into campaign. The only map that was the reverse was Boneyard, because a multiplayer map had to be cut late in development.
The reason they did this was so they could have the multiplayer maps be budgeted into the campaign artists' workload so they'd be graphically on par with the campaign.
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