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Halo |OT12| Last One Out, Get the Lights

Really love that Spartan Ops is continuing the story after Halo 4 didn't think it would be a lot but so far judging from the past 2 episodes I was completely wrong.

Since we have 10 episodes I am expecting a Didact reappearance.

I would flip. Spartan Ops is the shit so far, especially last episode. Just go nuts with it, 343. And I love that my cliffhanger desire was addressed in the bulletin. Season 2!
 

Shadders

Member
I just announced the winners of my Halo 4 Notebook comeptition. There's some cracking entries, well worth a look.

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Tashi

343i Lead Esports Producer
http://www.twitch.tv/jelyk

stream test. going to play lara croft and guardian of light. if you like to chill I'm gonna be gamin' for a while. working on audio levels so if its weird just say. no webcam setup because the card I have doesnt allow it. when I move into my own place I'll build a proper setup with webcam video but this works for now

Card you have doesn't allow it?

Get Xsplit son
 

Not a Jellyfish

but I am a sheep
I need that skill based ranking and I need it fast.

Specializations have been a bit of a deterrent for me, just leveling up for armor, visors, and a piece of shit tactical pack that I am probably not even going to use.

I pretty much play only a couple games a day now because these specialization rewards are just shitty.
 

Rev3rb

Member
Is there supposed to be game ending sitrecs? That's the only sitrec I want to see during a MP game and I haven't seen a single one. :/ hopefully in the TU...
 

Tashi

343i Lead Esports Producer
We need 2 more teams (4 players) for the league. If you havent messaged Ram and want in, find a partner and PM Ramirez. Thanks!
 
2. Because JIP is exactly what Halo needed IMO. Quitters and having to play games with lopsided teams was one of the biggest issues with Halo. Some of us don't care about joining a losing game. Some of us don't give a shit about K/D or W/L ratios. Some of us play a GAME to have FUN. I know it's shocking, but we do.
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So much this. And as someone who almost never plays online games in a full party, being wildly outnumbered affects my enjoyment far more than whatever the current score is.
 

orznge

Banned
Hello, HaloGAF. I know you may have some issues with Halo 4, but I happen to be a caricature of the Casual Gamer negative stereotype and I love it.
 

Shadders

Member
Aye, people are forgetting the cancer of quitting that plagued previous Halo games. JiP isn't without fault, but it is absolutely better than what we had before.

I've had a few games where me and friends have joined on the losing team and it's been like a case of "come on the lads, let's fix this shit" and we've gone on to win.

I concede it's much harder to do that when you're playing solo.
 

willow ve

Member
2. Because JIP is exactly what Halo needed IMO. Quitters and having to play games with lopsided teams was one of the biggest issues with Halo. Some of us don't care about joining a losing game. Some of us don't give a shit about K/D or W/L ratios. Some of us play a GAME to have FUN. I know it's shocking, but we do.

Now that isn't to say we don't play to win, that's not the case. However, we aren't so stuck up our own asses about or K/D W/L ratios that joining a game half way through is going to make us lose our shit because or E-peen got reduced by a notch.

You say things like "play a GAME to have FUN" as if you have some universal description as to what constitutes "fun." This is so obviously a misguided opinion and has been literally beaten to death here on HaloGAF. Fun is not some universal truth that applies to all players in all situations. Some players love AR starts, some love campaign scoring, some love competetive balanced matches, some just like trolling their own team by blowing up vehicles. None of these groups are necessarily exclusive of one another, but they're definitely all "fun" to certain groups of gamers.

For example; I personally don't give a shit about gametypes like race or grifball. I never really played them very much and I personally wouldn't care if they were in or out of the game. But I can't talk down to race or grifball players and tell them that their way of enjoying a game isn't the "fun" way to play it. That would be condescending and make me into more of an asshole than I already am.

If you're attempting to force the Join in Progress on everyone in the name of "fun" you need a better argument. Giving the option to players to toggle JIP on and off might possibly make it less "fun" for you, but would greatly increase the enjoyment of others. So who's version of "fun" is more important?

JIP absolutely screws me over 99% of the time playing solo. But what makes me rage harder than JIP is starting matches 5v2, 4v1, 5v3 etc... Really 343i

But but but JIP will totally solve that and even out the teams almost, like, instantaneously. There's no way you'll get spawn trapped or lose two flag caps before anyone else matches into the game. Right?
 

Pop

Member
Aye, people are forgetting the cancer of quitting that plagued previous Halo games. JiP isn't without fault, but it is absolutely better than what we had before.

I've had a few games where me and friends have joined on the losing team and it's been like a case of "come on the lads, let's fix this shit" and we've gone on to win.

I concede it's much harder to do that when you're playing solo.

JIP absolutely screws me over 99% of the time playing solo. But what makes me rage harder than JIP is starting matches 5v2, 4v1, 5v3 etc... Really 343i
 

orznge

Banned
You say things like "play a GAME to have FUN" as if you have some universal description as to what constitutes "fun." This is so obviously a misguided opinion and has been literally beaten to death here on HaloGAF. Fun is not some universal truth that applies to all players in all situations. Some players love AR starts, some love campaign scoring, some love competetive balanced matches, some just like trolling their own team by blowing up vehicles. None of these groups are necessarily exclusive of one another, but they're definitely all "fun" to certain groups of gamers.

For example; I personally don't give a shit about gametypes like race or grifball. I never really played them very much and I personally wouldn't care if they were in or out of the game. But I can't talk down to race or grifball players and tell them that their way of enjoying a game isn't the "fun" way to play it. That would be condescending and make me into more of an asshole than I already am.

If you're attempting to force the Join in Progress on everyone in the name of "fun" you need a better argument. Giving the option to players to toggle JIP on and off might possibly make it less "fun" for you, but would greatly increase the enjoyment of others. So who's version of "fun" is more important?



But but but JIP will totally solve that and even out the teams almost, like, instantaneously. There's no way you'll get spawn trapped or lose two flag caps before anyone else matches into the game. Right?

his version of fun is more important because he's the game's primary demographic taken to it's logical limit
 

zlatko

Banned
JIP absolutely screws me over 99% of the time playing solo. But what makes me rage harder than JIP is starting matches 5v2, 4v1, 5v3 etc... Really 343i

Maybe when they create that no perks no ordanance no quick spawn game type they can also add in no JIP for it.

For me I have limited time when I get the time to play, so I need to get into games fast and I want to be spawning fast alongside it.

The only way I see 343i winning here with the various fans and trying to appease them all is to just add more variety for playlists. A 4v4 slayer and a 4v4 objective play list that cuts all the H4 stuff out of it seems the best way to go about it. No run, no DMR, BR starts, no ordnance, no quick spawn, and no JIP. Anything else?
 

Pop

Member
Maybe when they create that no perks no ordanance no quick spawn game type they can also add in no JIP for it.

For me I have limited time when I get the time to play, so I need to get into games fast and I want to be spawning fast alongside it.

The only way I see 343i winning here with the various fans and trying to appease them all is to just add more variety for playlists. A 4v4 slayer and a 4v4 objective play list that cuts all the H4 stuff out of it seems the best way to go about it. No run, no DMR, BR starts, no ordnance, no quick spawn, and no JIP. Anything else?

Yeah called Classic playlist/gametypes. We were promised a playlist or did Frankie mean we would be able to do that in customs?

At this point in time idk if I even want one cause it would probably just be obj based and have no slayer, start matches 4v1 and we would still be auto picking up flags. :/
 
Hey guys what's going on in this threa-
YES I INVENTED THIRD PLACE

So happy to have placed. I had fun working on my journal entry thing. Thanks for having the contest, Shadders!

To the BTB discussion: DMRs are completely fucking up my idea of fun in BTB. Make it the same kill time as the DMR, give it an identical (shorter) range and be done with it. I want open BTB maps again, not this Meltdown/Vortex-styled clusterfuck stuff. I think Ordnance would actually work better if people weren't being forced into encounters every 0 seconds thanks to enclosed maps and instant respawn.
 

GhaleonEB

Member
2. Because JIP is exactly what Halo needed IMO. Quitters and having to play games with lopsided teams was one of the biggest issues with Halo. Some of us don't care about joining a losing game. Some of us don't give a shit about K/D or W/L ratios. Some of us play a GAME to have FUN. I know it's shocking, but we do.
FWIW, JIP has a lot to do with why I've been googling how much I could fetch for a used copy of Halo 4. Every other day or so, I think I might want to try it again. Then I'm reminded that odds are I'll just get air dropped into some game in progress, on the losing end. And it just saps any desire I have to put the disc in.

It's not the only reason. But it's the one I think of first when I consider going back to Halo 4.
 

Fracas

#fuckonami
2 ways to fix JiP:

1)Party leader can select a feature that prevents your party from being matchmade into a game in progress

2)Make a match ineligible for JiP after a set time (~2 minutes maybe?) or if the score gap is huge
 
2 ways to fix JiP:

1)Party leader can select a feature that prevents your party from being matchmade into a game in progress

2)Make a match ineligible for JiP after a set time (~2 minutes maybe?) or if the score gap is huge
We were told before launch that #2 was the case. Apparently they just lied to our faces.
 

JB1981

Member
FWIW, JIP has a lot to do with why I've been googling how much I could fetch for a used copy of Halo 4. Every other day or so, I think I might want to try it again. Then I'm reminded that odds are I'll just get air dropped into some game in progress, on the losing end. And it just saps any desire I have to put the disc in.

It's not the only reason. But it's the one I think of first when I consider going back to Halo 4.

You traded in the game already ?
 

Pop

Member
So when do you think we will see the first major Title Update? I'm guessing it will be on the level of H2.

At this point were just running in circles with the problems in Halo 4. Hopefully when that day comes, I can come back to Halo.
 

u4iX

Member
Hey guys what's going on in this threa-
YES I INVENTED THIRD PLACE

So happy to have placed. I had fun working on my journal entry thing. Thanks for having the contest, Shadders!

To the BTB discussion: DMRs are completely fucking up my idea of fun in BTB. Make it the same kill time as the DMR, give it an identical (shorter) range and be done with it. I want open BTB maps again, not this Meltdown/Vortex-styled clusterfuck stuff. I think Ordnance would actually work better if people weren't being forced into encounters every 0 seconds thanks to enclosed maps and instant respawn.

Slow down the DMR RoF, increase the Carbine's accuracy or make it one less shot to kill.

Hire me.
 

Pop

Member
Camo should make you EASIER to see on the radar if it's gonna make one invisible.

Camo should just have been a power-up like overshield. Damn you Bungie for starting this, what were they thinking. Honestly 343i could have made it one but decided to make it even more of a nuisances.
 
2)Make a match ineligible for JiP after a set time (~2 minutes maybe?) or if the score gap is huge
This only makes sense if there's a mechanism for players to end a losing match or if matches just ended on their own at that point. You guys basically see it as pointless to keep playing a losing match right? This is made only worse by having a losing match with lopsided teams without the possibility of reinforcements, which is what you would subject players to by removing JIP.

You guys honestly don't see the point of playing a losing match? And this bugs some of you enough to avoid playing at all? I honestly don't understand.
 

broony

Member
FWIW, JIP has a lot to do with why I've been googling how much I could fetch for a used copy of Halo 4. Every other day or so, I think I might want to try it again. Then I'm reminded that odds are I'll just get air dropped into some game in progress, on the losing end. And it just saps any desire I have to put the disc in.

It's not the only reason. But it's the one I think of first when I consider going back to Halo 4.

I don't get this mentality. Would you not prefer to play 5 minutes of a game that you joined part way through, then play an infinite amount of games with full teams on both sides.

Or

not have JIP and have, based on my experience of prior halo's MP, 80% plus games lopsided after at least one player quits with the first minute of a game.

JIP has saved halo MP for me.
 

DeadNames

Banned
Camo should just have been a power-up like overshield. Damn you Bungie for starting this, what were they thinking. Honestly 343i could have made it one but decided to make it even more of a nuisances.

Word. PV too.

Oh and I've gotten for the most part close games and JIP has worked wonders for me.
 
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