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Halo |OT12| Last One Out, Get the Lights

Karl2177

Member
Have you checked your PM's already? You might want to do that. :p

Done. I think it bugged, because it said I had 3 Unread Messages, all of them with the same time stamp.

Hmmh, weird. I was on mobile, maybe that's why. Anyway, sorry for the spam.
It's fine. I bet when you were sending it went from wifi to 3G back to wifi or something similar. Even so, the GAF servers usually catch that, so it's probably an error on that end.
 
Guys, post some of your loadouts pls. Especially ones with unsual combinations that work well.
All my loadouts boil down to BR/DMR, Boltshot (1 with Plasma Pistol), [insert AA], Mobility, AA Efficiency or Resupply, and Dexterity or Shielding.

I don't think Firefight wasn't popular, I think they just wanted to do something similar and in their view having both would be redundant. You make a good point with ME3. Wave-based survival modes are big and maintain a solid playerbase if you look at Horde, ME3, and Zombies. I'm sure there is still a solid number of people playing FF in Reach.

With Halo 5, 343 needs to scrap Spartan Ops, take Firefight from ODST, add all the customization, bring back all of it, and expand upon it. There are so many ways you can build upon FF. It has more variability than SO and has a higher replay value. Spartan Ops is a cool idea, but unless you can create and provide new locations on a weekly basis, it is going to get boring quickly.

Fixed.
 
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Ryaaan14

Banned
Guys, post some of your loadouts pls. Especially ones with unsual combinations that work well.
All my loadouts boil down to BR/DMR, Boltshot (1 with Plasma Pistol), [insert AA], Mobility, AA Efficiency or Resupply, and Dexterity or Shielding.



Fixed.

My main loadout:

DMR
Boltshot
Active Camo
Grenadier
Ordnance Priority
 

Pop

Member
Sad day for HaloGAF it seems.

I don't even get frustrated anymore with halo, Reach put a horrible taste in my mouth. With all the decisions 343i has made so far, my hopes are non-existent. I haven't played in 2 weeks and don't plan on to until the skill ranks are released. Still I think they will mess them up too and this is not even including the decision to only show ranks on waypoint. Which is a terrible idea btw.

Minor tweaks and we all would be praising how good h4 is.
 
My main loadout:

DMR
Boltshot
Active Camo
Grenadier
Ordnance Priority

Does camo even work, other than camping in objective games?
I'm constantly being killed because my shields flicker when recharging. Only times I survive multiple encounters is base camping in dominion, and that's kinda lame (although funny).
 
I don't think they should scrap Spartan Ops. They should just do it right next time. The current implementation is embarrassing. Reusing environments. No story integration. No moments. Just dump players in a gulch and have them shoot dudes. It's dry.
 

zap

Member
Does camo even work, other than camping in objective games?
I'm constantly being killed because my shields flicker when recharging. Only times I survive multiple encounters is base camping in dominion, and that's kinda lame (although funny).

I don't use it, but I feel that the shield flickering is a lot less pronounced and goes back to full camo faster than in Reach.

Just hit 50. Why are my extra specs not there? I entered my code a week or so ago

Try redownloading from download history
 

Ryaaan14

Banned
Does camo even work, other than camping in objective games?
I'm constantly being killed because my shields flicker when recharging. Only times I survive multiple encounters is base camping in dominion, and that's kinda lame (although funny).

Camo is incredible for Slayer. Quite often if I find myself in a pinch like becoming outnumbered, or caught in a bad reload, I'll just pop Camo and sit for a moment. And of course all the mindless trolling you can do with Camo like waiting for Global Ordnances to drop, and camping next to one to assassinate whoever picks it up.

In my opinion it's a lot more versatile than many of the other AA's.
 

Lazslo

Member
Finished Campaign today- it was really fun but it needed more open-space Earthy levels. I gotta say ffor the First Title from a brand new developer- 343 Nailed it. They rolled the dice and it payed out.
 

heckfu

Banned
This is the most frustrating thing. Halo 4 is shit in so many departments, yet it's only a few hours (at most) of tweaks away from being solid gold. FFS man :(

Lol, someone at 343 hire this guy, it'll only take him a couple hours to fix what you worked for years on!
 

Booties

Banned
I don't use it, but I feel that the shield flickering is a lot less pronounced and goes back to full camo faster than in Reach.



Try redownloading from download history
I did it online. I never downloaded them. Says code already used too.
 
Lol, someone at 343 hire this guy, it'll only take him a couple hours to fix what you worked for years on!
You funny guy. It's not like I'd only incorporate MY ideas. The whole community has come up with tons of ideas that are literally the work of a few hours to implement. As for playtesting, they threw a beta at our faces with the retail copy, might as well let the public playtest the patches as well. It's not like the last patches were flawless (ordnance in haven spawning in the floor lolol).

Modify the damage parameters of the starting weapons slightly, take out boltshot and PP as starting weapons, make global ordnance semi-random (think gears of war 3 style), lengthen despawn time of weapons, take out the more overpowered perks and amor abilities (looking at you PV and jetpack), remove flinch and bring back descope and red X, and so on.
 
I have faith in playlist management and Spartan Ops. Playlists are always a fluid thing. There will be changes throughout Halo 4's lifespan. And SpoOps has serious potential.

Flinch is never getting removed because the Rogue perk is built around it. Changing flinch would change one of the core aspects of the specialization system. This is also why I don't have faith that the red X's are ever coming back, because it's part of the Stalker perk. Which really, really sucks. I hate not knowing when my teammates die or where it happened. And no, the yellow X on the radar does not count at all.

So wait, they appear if you have the perk?
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
They could just change it to a yellow X for teammate death locations like they are on te radar. Shit ain't hard to figure out. One does not prevent the other.
 

Noricart

Member
Nope, the guy who killed you is marked with an X.

I don't see why the X wouldn't come back because of that.
Although I think they're not coming back anyway. :(

I can imagine the X not being in if it just disappears from your teammate's screen as soon as you respawn, but how hard is it to just recolor the X and keep the old one in?
 

Schmitty

Member
Camo is incredible for Slayer. Quite often if I find myself in a pinch like becoming outnumbered, or caught in a bad reload, I'll just pop Camo and sit for a moment. And of course all the mindless trolling you can do with Camo like waiting for Global Ordnances to drop, and camping next to one to assassinate whoever picks it up.

In my opinion it's a lot more versatile than many of the other AA's.

I don't like you
 
Nope, the guy who killed you is marked with an X.

I don't see why the X wouldn't come back because of that.
Although I think they're not coming back anyway. :(

No, nothing about that perk has anything to do with red x's.

Well, other than that they designate the guy who killed you last with a marker over his head which just happens to have a red x on the icon.

Nothing to do with anything.

Ah ok. That sucks.

Honestly, to me, this game is a few fixes away from being really great. But some of the stuff they missed just seems so obvious. Like the Xs when people die. How is that not super useful to all players and second, how does no one at the studio even notice this? This little stuff really baffles me. Or the mic icon not appearing for you in game so if ur mic is foked, or youre making a lot of noise, youll never know. The little stuff is important. If anything, it helps everyone, even the noobs.

One thing i have to hand to bungie is that they did the little things right no matter how insignificant they seemed.
 

Caja 117

Member
I can imagine the X not being in if it just disappears from your teammate's screen as soon as you respawn, but how hard is it to just recolor the X and keep the old one in?

Actually it doesn't have to be that way, The x can stay a second or so after an instant respawn, just like BOPS 2.
 
Should only take about an hour or two.
Jeez, give me a break.
How is removing a weapon from loadouts going to take longer than a few hours?
Yeah, a couple of hours won't work for every proposed fix. But enough could be fixed in that time to consider Halo 4 a pretty good game. Especially since 343 isn't just one guy.
A few hours = dozens of man-hours.
 

Noricart

Member
I'm really wondering who thought the Boltshot should be more analogous to a Shotgun than the Mauler. I mean, hey, here is this weapon that you have to charge up,works a little further than close range, but kills people with more consistency than both Shotgun power weapons (wwwhat?) Human pistol needs a buff, either through less bloom, or at least two more rounds. Boltshot needs a debuff, either through longer charge time, or making it like the mauler (considering that melee magnetism is much weaker in this game.)
And while we're at it, buff the carbine plz.
 

willow ve

Member
So it feels like since the TU the vehicles respawn all the fucking time. Used the laser to destroy 3 Gauss Hogs in a row on Exile. Why is this still on the map anyway?

Ah ok. That sucks.

Honestly, to me, this game is a few fixes away from being really great. But some of the stuff they missed just seems so obvious. Like the Xs when people die. How is that not super useful to all players and second, how does no one at the studio even notice this? This little stuff really baffles me. Or the mic icon not appearing for you in game so if ur mic is foked, or youre making a lot of noise, youll never know. The little stuff is important. If anything, it helps everyone, even the noobs.

One thing i have to hand to bungie is that they did the little things right no matter how insignificant they seemed.

Or the pain in the ass it is to try to mute someone during a game. Good luck with that contortionist claw hand motion.
 
So it feels like since the TU the vehicles respawn all the fucking time. Used the laser to destroy 3 Gauss Hogs in a row on Exile. Why is this still on the map anyway?



Or the pain in the ass it is to try to mute someone during a game. Good luck with that contortionist claw hand motion.

Ya i did that today. wtf is that lol

Their playtest department is doing an awful job. I co-founded the Gameloft playtest department and man, this is stuff wed always catch and at worst, enter that stuff as recommendations. This is MS and they dont catch this? Plus, these are things that (for the most-part) the previous games had!!! I dont even know what to say.
 
So just got home and read that bulletin.. Complete nonsense that a unique playlist (KotH) is getting removed while trash like FFA Regicide gets to stay.

This playlist management is nuts. I feel horrible saying this but I don't know how much longer I can willingly support Halo 4 if this kinda shit keeps up.. I went through about 8 years of bullshit because of Bungie only for my love of this franchise, not about to go through another decade of the same poor decisions.

So if Kyle starts doing OT's, can we look forward to a bunch of satire?

So one of the few guys that Frankie genuinely hates (probably) is going to make the Halo OT? Sounds fitting.
 
I'm really wondering who thought the Boltshot should be more analogous to a Shotgun than the Mauler. I mean, hey, here is this weapon that you have to charge up,works a little further than close range, but kills people with more consistency than both Shotgun power weapons (wwwhat?) Human pistol needs a buff, either through less bloom, or at least two more rounds. Boltshot needs a debuff, either through longer charge time, or making it like the mauler (considering that melee magnetism is much weaker in this game.)
And while we're at it, buff the carbine plz.

Yeah, boltshot is bullshit.
The scattershot is weaker, WTF?
Not sure about the shotgun, because I've never seen it pop up except in Flood mode (which is crap)
 
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