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[Trey]

What? It's great for a fast-moving CTF game. If only the KILL marker could be removed from the flag carrier, playing defense would be something other than stupidly easy.

Doesn't the kill marker basically turn CTF into a game of slayer where one team has a handicap?

 

[Syphon Filter]

"I remember when HaloGaf was a different place, I remember when Halo was a different game." What are you guys, 60? You sound like old people stuck on the past.



I'm surprised Ellis and O'Connor even come here anymore; its just a Halo bashing thread at this point. They know what our problems are with the game, they probably agree with a good deal of it. Regardless of what you people think, however, they don't have ultimate power and can't make changes at the every little whim.

so basically we should accept any crap thrown to us?

 

[Tawpgun]

What part of that is ridiculous? They've said about CTF they want people to try it this way, and then they'll see if they can put the classic mode back in.

They didn't do this on accident, this shit is on purpose. Which I can totally understand and get for matchmaking, I don't go into multi-team and bitch about it.

I make custom gametypes and maps and play that shit like I like it.

Instant respawns and not being able to drop the flag are shit I don't like.

Again, I repeat, in custom games you can not turn off instant respawn. How is that ok?

Sure you can't? Instarespawn is not in objective modes. Is it baked into slayer modes?

 

[scar tissue]

Cauldron and Land Grab are pretty good, haven't played any of the other SpOps missions.
The main problem is, as has been said often enough, the infinite respawns. It's basically firefight, but with a set limit of enemies.

I also hate how there is no resolution to the missions, no short ingame cutscene or anything. Just fade to black.

I realize it's free, but I honestly would've preferred firefight (ODST style) so far, and I have a hard time imagining myself paying for season 2 or 3 unless new gameplay elements are introduced or the production value in general is amped up drastically.

Edit: To say something positive about MP, the short load times are fantastic. Mandatory install ftw.

 

[AllIsOneIsNone]

so basically we should accept any crap thrown to us?

No, but if you act like an infant, your opinion will be treated as such. It's really easy to say what you don't like and how you want it to change (without being an asshole). Make a list.

What I don't like:
x
y
z

How I think it should be changed:
p
d
q

It's not hard to see that the embarrassing shit-fest in here doesn't/shouldn't garner any respect from developers; in fact they're probably pissed back at us, or they just don't care. You can't love a developer when they're doing it right, then hate them when they're doing it wrong. Try to be objective, and if there's nothing they can do, its probably time to move on.

 

[op_ivy]

does the rail-gun increase in power the longer its charged?

 

[Bregmann Roche]

The last few pages of this thread have been Ignore-list Viagra.

 

[Woorloog]

does the rail-gun increase in power the longer its charged?

No.
You can release it after the meters are full, or it will auto-release after 1.5-2seconds from full charge. Won't fire undercharged.

 

[LAUGHTREY]

Sure you can't? Instarespawn is not in objective modes. Is it baked into slayer modes?

I fudged around with the respawn settings for like half an hour last night, couldn't do it. Googled the problem and no one else can either. The option in the menu makes me think it may be a bug, but I'm not holding my breath.

 

[op_ivy]

No.
You can release it after the meters are full, or it will auto-release after 1.5-2seconds from full charge. Won't fire undercharged.

ok. had a few instances when i swear i've hit guys with a short charge and they have survived. must be in my head, lag, or i missed (possibly all 3)

 

[Woorloog]

ok. had a few instances when i swear i've hit guys with a short charge and they have survived. must be in my head, lag, or i missed (possibly all 3)

Or Overshield. Direct hits on non-overshielded guys will kill them always. Hitting just next to them might not kill them.

 

[LAUGHTREY]

No, but if you act like an infant, your opinion will be treated as such. It's really easy to say what you don't like and how you want it to change (without being an asshole). Make a list.

What I don't like:
x
y
z

How I think it should be changed:
p
d
q

It's not hard to see that the embarrassing shit-fest in here doesn't/shouldn't garner any respect from developers; in fact they're probably pissed back at us, or they just don't care. You can't love a developer when they're doing it right, then hate them when they're doing it wrong. Try to be objective, and if there's nothing they can do, its probably time to move on.

...You're the only one I've seen being uncivil. I don't see anyone legitimately railing the game without merit. But apparently you're seeing a lot of people making ridiculous demands while foaming at the mouth, all I see is you complaining about complaining.

 

[Digital Limit]

Aww, I really liked CTF to begin with. It's getting boring. Firstly, because there is no 1 flag or Assault or even Stockpile to alternate. Secondly, because it has become clear to me that the waypoints remove much of the fun -- capping the flag just means running and praying, getting the flag carrier just means shooting and praying. Thirdly, because every game is on Ragnarok and that map, much like Reach BTB, is borken by the DMR, whichn is just too accurate and powerful for its own good.

The game would be vastly more fun minus the DMR. It's unnecessary given the BR and it ruins open maps.

Of course, the loadouts mean that these sorts of issues are permanent. At least when 343 realize that there are way too many power weapons and vehicles everywhere they'll remove them (I hope).

I completely disagree with you. I love Capture the Flag on Ragnarok.

The loadouts allow vehicles to be fun instead of overwhelming (see: plasma pistol and plasma grenades). The DMR and other long-range weapons feel right at home in that map. Laying down team shots on flag carriers or picking up Flagnum kills feels great. Why is it running and praying, as the flag carrier? Get a team. You have a great gun with your flag. Your melee is instant-kill. You practically have a power weapon, and only at the sacrifice of your sprint, armor abilities and 'nades.

 

[squidhands]

What part of that is ridiculous? They've said about CTF they want people to try it this way, and then they'll see if they can put the classic mode back in.

They didn't do this on accident, this shit is on purpose. Which I can totally understand and get for matchmaking, I don't go into multi-team and bitch about it.

I make custom gametypes and maps and play that shit like I like it.

Instant respawns and not being able to drop the flag are shit I don't like.

Again, I repeat, in custom games you can not turn off instant respawn. How is that ok?

The instant respawn thing might actually be a bug that's in need of fixing.

Saying that a developer is actively attacking a faction of the community is the definition of hyperbole and an ignorant way to make a critique against the game. I don't like a lot of the changes that this game has brought forth, forging and gametype options chief among them. However, I don't believe for a second that there is a "out to get me" mentality from this developer to hamper anyone's enjoyment of the game.

Doesn't the kill marker basically turn CTF into a game of slayer where one team has a handicap?

Eh, more or less. I can kill people a lot easier than I thought would be the case when I have the flag, though.

 

[Tha Robbertster]

I feel really inconsistent, skill wise, when I play this game. On game, I completely dominate and go +15 and the next, I can't get any kills. I always considered myself a fairly good Halo player but in Halo 4, I don't know what to think. It feels like during the bad games, every opponent can 5-shot me with ease.

 

[Poker Face]

I feel really inconsistent, skill wise, when I play this game. On game, I completely dominate and go +15 and the next, I can't get any kills. I always considered myself a fairly good Halo player but in Halo 4, I don't know what to think. It feels like during the bad games, every opponent can 5-shot me with ease.

this happens for me too, it's weird.

 

[FUBAR McDangles]

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuck my TV. Turn on my xbox and my television and go to sit at my desk and let everything load up, only too late to I hear not the booting up stuff coming through my speakers, but an episode of "The Doctors" on NBC, talking about the many ways men can break their penis.

On to Halo, I suppose.

 

[Ryaaan14]

I feel really inconsistent, skill wise, when I play this game. On game, I completely dominate and go +15 and the next, I can't get any kills. I always considered myself a fairly good Halo player but in Halo 4, I don't know what to think. It feels like during the bad games, every opponent can 5-shot me with ease.

Weird to see people saying this. I am a very poor Halo player but I find myself doing well the majority of the time in Halo 4. I am joining matches by myself a lot though so perhaps they're matching me with other bad players idk.

 

[LAUGHTREY]

The instant respawn thing might actually be a bug that's in need of fixing.
Saying that a developer is actively attacking a faction of the community is the definition of hyperbole and an ignorant way to make a critique against the game. I don't like a lot of the changes that this game has brought forth, forging and gametype options chief among them. However, I don't believe for a second that there is a "out to get me" mentality from this developer to hamper anyone's enjoyment of the game.
Eh, more or less. I can kill people a lot easier than I thought would be the case when I have the flag, though.

You're not getting that because you're obviously not a part of one. I can't imagine the game being the way it is now being viable for MLG, but if you want to go even deeper than that how about all the people who loved race and had communities built around that? That's pretty much gone because they took out the race gametype.

I don't get what they put in for the sake of taking these things out. Was race really taking up that much space on the disc or something?

 

[scar tissue]

Loadouts really add infinite possibilities for griefing.

I love my KOTH/Domination layout for storming the Hill/Base: BR, Boltshot, PromVision, Frag Grenade, Resupply, Explosive Power (or whatever the perk that makes grenades stronger is called).

Being able to spam extra strong grenades with pinpoint accuracy thanks to PV never gets old. For defending bases, there's also a good one: AR, Magnum, Camo, AA Efficiency, Sensor.

Not so much fun when you're on the receiving side tho.


The best thing is, basically every AA is either broken or worthless.

Broken: PV, Jetpack, Regen Field, Camo
Worthless: Thruster

Only Shield is neither, although I would say it's closer to being underpowered.


Edit: And fuck being matched up with full teams when going in alone. I can't count how often I've been among the best three players and still lost by a landslide due to the incompetent fuckwads on my team.

 

[J10]

So all SpOps episode 2 missions are just Episode 1 missions in reverse with different objectives... sigh.

It seemed like the first four missions of Episode 1 were reused campaign spaces played in reverse. Am I bugging or was that not the case? They seemed awfully familiar.

 

[xxjuicesxx]

Please post your most recent k/d along with your comment so I know whether to ignore it or not. Thanks in advance.

-Juices

 

[AllIsOneIsNone]

Please post your most recent k/d along with your comment so I know whether to ignore it or not. Thanks in advance.

-Juices

Will you ignore it if it's good or bad?

 

[orznge]

"I remember when HaloGaf was a different place, I remember when Halo was a different game." What are you guys, 60? You sound like old people stuck on the past.

If you whine about this game to get things to change, guess what, nobody will listen except other whiners. If you want to have a positive influence, bring some insight into the thread without having the attitude of "ha, I told you this would suck so I'm better" attitude.

I'm surprised Ellis and O'Connor even come here anymore; its just a Halo bashing thread at this point. They know what our problems are with the game, they probably agree with a good deal of it. Regardless of what you people think, however, they don't have ultimate power and can't make changes with every little whim.

you would think communicating to people how a game can be changed immensely for the better in simple ways would elicit positive change but alas people are very dumb and they think you are trying to ruin their favorite game if you think a thing could be made better about it

 

[ViewtifulJC]

Will you ignore it if it's good or bad?

post and find out

 

[LAUGHTREY]

Please post your most recent k/d along with your comment so I know whether to ignore it or not. Thanks in advance.

-Juices

1.8

 

[Tashi]

Just got the Monthly Challenge. THAT'S A LOT OF POINTS!!

-Tashi (K/D 1.5)

how that's juices?

 

[orznge]

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuck my TV. Turn on my xbox and my television and go to sit at my desk and let everything load up, only too late to I hear not the booting up stuff coming through my speakers, but an episode of "The Doctors" on NBC, talking about the many ways men can break their penis.

On to Halo, I suppose.

 

[daedalius]

Complaining about complaining about complaining

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[AllIsOneIsNone]

you would think communicating to people how a game can be changed immensely for the better in simple ways would elicit positive change but alas people are very dumb and they think you are trying to ruin their favorite game if you think a thing could be made better about it

I have no idea if you're agreeing or disagreeing with me here.

My k/d is about 1.4 but I can't get exact figures cause waypoint.

Complaining about complaining about complaining

this-is-neogaf.gif

It works though. If people stand up to the complainers, then people stand up to the complainer complainers, an infinite loop happens and nobody knows what the fuck is going on and people start to chill out again.

 

[Shake Appeal]

K/D: 1.68

I am better than Tashi.

(Because I don't play Slayer Pro.)

(Also K/D is irrelevant with invisible TrueSkill.)

 

[xxjuicesxx]

Just got the Monthly Challenge. THAT'S A LOT OF POINTS!!

-Tashi (K/D 1.5)

how that's juices?

Challenges? Just eat more doritoes and DEW!

-Juices

 

[Deputy Moonman]

I feel really inconsistent, skill wise, when I play this game. On game, I completely dominate and go +15 and the next, I can't get any kills. I always considered myself a fairly good Halo player but in Halo 4, I don't know what to think. It feels like during the bad games, every opponent can 5-shot me with ease.

Yep I know that feel. I play a lot of pro-slayer, so some of it is random chance when people get the drop on me from behind. But still, it is frustrating wondering if I'm playing horrible or if it's something else out of my control. Still having fun, though.

EDIT: K/D .001

Spoiler

teehee

 

[Steelyuhas]

Story
H3>H1>H2>H4>Reach

lolololololololololololololololololololololololololololol

Spoiler

lol

Im having an odd glitch with the sword in multiplayer, When I pullout the sword there isn't any ignite sound... just silence.

Yeah it never happens for me either.

Proof that Karen Traviss is on the Spartan Ops design team.

Haha, the dialogue in Spops is pretty awful.

Just played mission 3 of episode one, damn a Promethean mission without any Knights? Why? That was very challenging though.

I feel really inconsistent, skill wise, when I play this game. On game, I completely dominate and go +15 and the next, I can't get any kills. I always considered myself a fairly good Halo player but in Halo 4, I don't know what to think. It feels like during the bad games, every opponent can 5-shot me with ease.

Yeah same here, I've been extremely streaky. Very hot and then very cold, it's odd.

 

[Louis Wu]

Not sure if anyone needs/wants them, but we've begun a Spartan Ops Cutscene Library - downloads available.

http://halo.bungie.org/misc/cutscenes/halo4_spartanops.html

 

[MaximumFlipFlop]

Please post your most recent k/d along with your comment so I know whether to ignore it or not. Thanks in advance.

-Juices

Just returned Halo 4 and put the credit towards Black Ops 2.

RIP Halo.

 

[Risen]

Just got the Monthly Challenge. THAT'S A LOT OF POINTS!!

-Tashi (K/D 1.5)

how that's juices?

How many times have you bumped your head on your ceiling?

 

[DeadNames]

Just returned Halo 4 and put the credit towards Black Ops 2.

RIP Halo.

RIP Halo is a bit much. This game has the potential to be amazing. If they remove crap like instant respawns, perks, (some, if not all) AAs, and ordnance in any form, this game can be great.

Although removing ordnance is highly unlikely.

 

[willow ve]

I live in the wealthiest and most populated country directly adjacent to my state capital. Since the Double XP has started I have seen a total of 4 full size bags of Doritos. Only 4. This is between 2 Walmarts, a Meijer, 4 Krogers, and 2 Marsh groceries (all within 5 miles of my home).

How can the marketing have missed it this much? How can there literally be only 4 full size bags of Double XP Doritos in the entire area? It baffles me.

Oh - willow ve - K/D 2.15 (almost all my games are going into Big Team alone)...

 

[Woorloog]

RIP Halo is a bit much. This game has the potential to be amazing. If they remove crap like instant respawns, perks, (some, if not all) AAs, and ordnance in any form, this game can be great.

Although removing ordnance is highly unlikely.

Fuck, no.
Now, i wouldn't mind them being tweaked but removed, no, no, no.

 

[Tashi]

K/D: 1.68

I am better than Tashi.

(Because I don't play Slayer Pro.)

(Also K/D is irrelevant with invisible TrueSkill.)

What's your email? I need lessons!

Challenges? Just eat more doritoes and DEW!

-Juices

lol I had one mountain code and gave that away. I don't need that double XP shit son!

How many times have you bumped your head on your ceiling?

A good amount. I've broken through a good amount too though.

 

[Karl2177]

I live in the wealthiest and most populated country directly adjacent to my state capital. Since the Double XP has started I have seen a total of 4 full size bags of Doritos. Only 4. This is between 2 Walmarts, a Meijer, 4 Krogers, and 2 Marsh groceries (all within 5 miles of my home).

How can the marketing have missed it this much? How can there literally be only 4 full size bags of Double XP Doritos in the entire area? It baffles me.

Wealthy and populated? That won't cut it. Try most obese.

 

[Deputy Moonman]

Just returned Halo 4 and put the credit towards Black Ops 2.

RIP Halo.

Dang, mr. 2.4 K/D ratio dongblainer and you're still not having fun? Hard to please!

Spoiler

farewell halogaf brother <3

 

[MaximumFlipFlop]

Here are 2 double XP codes. Since I am not playing anymore, someone else can have them. Quote to reveal.

 

[willow ve]

Wealthy and populated? That won't cut it. Try most obese.

Yeah - that's probably true. All the Halo 4 branded Doritos are probably sitting in the back room waiting for shelf space.

 

[xxjuicesxx]

RIP Halo is a bit much. This game has the potential to be amazing. If they remove crap like instant respawns, perks, (some, if not all) AAs, and ordnance in any form, this game can be great.

Although removing ordnance is highly unlikely.

Do you really think they are going to fix a lot of the crap in this game? They take forever to fix shit historically and even when they do they are fixes that noone asked for or care about compared to bigger issues that go unanswered.

Just returned Halo 4 and put the credit towards Black Ops 2.
2.41IMAGE , RIP Halo.

I'll just keep H4 but so excited for Blops2. Going to play til I hit the top of the ladders. We'll have to dong together.

 

[DeadNames]

Fuck, no.
Now, i wouldn't mind them being tweaked but removed, no, no, no.

I have what I think could be a better solution to what global ordnance is now. I posted it in the last OT.

And PV needs to get nerfed or removed. It's just too overpowered.

Do you really think they are going to fix a lot of the crap in this game? They take forever to fix shit historically and even when they do they are fixes that noone asked for or care about compared to bigger issues that go unanswered.

I never said that I thought it would get removed. Keyword there was if.

343 nailed the core mechanics of this game... It's just drowned out by stupid things.

 

[RebornYeti]

Just played the worst match of BTB on Exile. Cross map DMRs are starting to get quite annoying...

Oh and I guess Tunavi was on the other team :lol

 

[Deputy Moonman]

lol I had one mountain code and gave that away. I don't need that double XP shit son!

I kind of appreciate the codes since I'm not able to play every day. When I do, getting that extra exp feels good. And also, MERICA!!

 

[AllIsOneIsNone]

Do you really think they are going to fix a lot of the crap in this game? They take forever to fix shit historically and even when they do they are fixes that noone asked for or care about compared to bigger issues that go unanswered.

Historically? 343 didn't care about Reach partly because they took over a long time after it had been out...but Halo 4 is their game. I don't think they'll get rid of new features like ordance and perks, but I should hope they'll work on a lot of balance issues.