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Halo |OT12| Last One Out, Get the Lights

sp3000

Member
No it didn't.

Halo 4 sold almost the exact same as any other Halo game since the dawn of time.

It's just HaloGAF is full of dummies right now. When all these filthy casuals clear out it should return to normal.

Selling the exact same in terms of sales does not mean it is selling to the same audience. Your lying to yourself if you think 343 was not desperately wanting to attract new players from the COD series

No-one complained when Firefight used Halo Reach campaign locations, but as soon as they borrow some campaign geometry for Spartan Ops that's "lazy" and "re-used"? I don't get that mentality. Spartan Ops surely had a smaller budget than the main Campaign, so it makes sense for it to share some locations.

People did complain. There was tons of uproar about reused spaces in singleplayer that just had the maps from multiplayer pasted in. Please stop pretending that 343 is being unfairly victimized when Bungie was also criticized.
 

LAUGHTREY

Modesty becomes a woman
There is clearly no real drive in 343 for customization like there was at Bungie.

It just seems pretty evident. Half the gametypes (race, vip, assault, stockpile, headhunter, invasion, that's not including those that were sort of but not exactly replaced) were removed. Those that remain have invariably been ravaged (flood, ctf) or unimproved (the rest).

While the attack (and this isn't just neglect, it's an active attack) on custom options may not make the game less fun right now, it could really hurt the multiplayer in the long run, what with the lack of variety and change. We'll see how things play out...

I can already tell how things are going to play out.

Starcraft has a huge following and Blizzard helps support that, specifically MLG.

Let's kill the competitive part of your game that helps DLC and popularity by removing custom options that in no way affect the matchmaking portion of the game.

If that stuff isn't in within the month then they've lost it forever.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
If you go 15 kills and 10 deaths your kill difference will be +5, and if you go 5 and 9 would be -4.

Ahh, ok yeah, dunno.

I think what Tunavi is looking for and what I was talking about was something like this, where on bnet on your recent games it showed at a glance what your spread was that match:



Waypoint only shows this:



No spread or death count. They seem oddly afraid to ever show you your K/D or deaths anywhere. In-game the scoreboard doesn't reflect your deaths (only in post-game), and your in-game Service Record lists your Kills and Deaths, but doesn't give you a ratio. Then Waypoint only shows that above without going in further.

It shows more including deaths if you click on the match, but it still doesn't show +/- that I can see
 

Jedeye Sniv

Banned
There is clearly no real drive in 343 for customization like there was at Bungie.

It just seems pretty evident. Half the gametypes (race, vip, assault, stockpile, headhunter, invasion, that's not including those that were sort of but not exactly replaced) were removed. Those that remain have invariably been ravaged (flood, ctf) or unimproved (the rest).

While the attack (and this isn't just neglect, it's an active attack) on custom options may not make the game less fun right now, it could really hurt the multiplayer in the long run, what with the lack of variety and change. We'll see how things play out...

I can see your point but IMO, 343 has just trimmed off the unpopular modes. I don't think I ever played a game of VIP in my life, Stockpile was an experiment in frustration, Headhunter was an unfun clusterfuck, Invasion was a nice try but never caught on. I like that 343 have rather trimmed the fat of modes and hoppers. I like how pure it is now, and there's space to expand later if there's call for it.
 

sp3000

Member
And you want to troll for nothing, like in every Halo thread so far you have been in. You don't care for the game, Bungie or 343 and stop trying to pepper it like you give a crap.

Yes "I don't care for the game", which must be why I own every single Halo game since release date from 1 to 4.

Kindly shut up.
 

Blinding

Member
Complex needs to be removed from the Oddball playlist, especially since that wall glitch was found out. Now people are instantly voting for it when it comes up and it turns into a game of who can get sword and into that spot first.
 

Abdozer

Member
I still don't get Vortex, does it even have layout. All I see is rock on rock on rocks.

I found this:

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LAUGHTREY

Modesty becomes a woman
I can see your point but IMO, 343 has just trimmed off the unpopular modes. I don't think I ever played a game of VIP in my life, Stockpile was an experiment in frustration, Headhunter was an unfun clusterfuck, Invasion was a nice try but never caught on. I like that 343 have rather trimmed the fat of modes and hoppers. I like how pure it is now, and there's space to expand later if there's call for it.

That's not even the real issue here, getting rid of the playlists of those gametypes is fine.

Getting rid of the chance to even play those gametypes and customize them for no apparent reason is what nobody likes.
 

TheOddOne

Member
Yes "I don't care for the game", which must be why I own every single Halo game since release date from 1 to 4.

Kindly shut up.
Yeah, right. You are a case of trying to stir fire for nothing, ohh look everybody is bashing the game let me regurgitate everything everybody says! I've heard more poignant remarks for the most harshest critics on these pages, from them I can atleast see where they are coming from. You are just here to stoke fire for nothing, you don't care for Bungie, your just hiding behind them to sound like you give a damn. Heck, even if this was the best game ever you would still be doing this stick.

I'll take Overdoziz or Kyle's opinion above you anyday, atleast they don't hide behind shit.
 

kylej

Banned
when EZB (rip) posted his list it was an actual community of only 20 or 30 people. everyone knew each other's ticks and preferences and whatever. now HaloGAF isn't a community it's just a big random collection of nerds.
 
I seriously need to start playing with halogaf. While on my own, I do alright most of the time. But there are some horrid games where I feel like I should go back to playing pac man instead because of how badly I played.
 
I was going to ask when customs were going on, then I realized they were probably yesterday if they happened. I want to play on some custom maps
 

Calm Killer

In all media, only true fans who consume every book, film, game, or pog collection deserve to know what's going on.
when EZB (rip) posted his list it was an actual community of only 20 or 30 people. everyone knew each other's ticks and preferences and whatever. now HaloGAF isn't a community it's just a big random collection of nerds.

A flood form....
 

Tawpgun

Member
when EZB (rip) posted his list it was an actual community of only 20 or 30 people. everyone knew each other's ticks and preferences and whatever. now HaloGAF isn't a community it's just a big random collection of nerds.

Do one for the people you know. I want a laugh.
 
So they made all the maps so big you have to sprint to cover ground. The problem is, they added a delay between sprinting and shooting which to me discourages sprinting, or at the least gives the guy who see's me sprinting an advantage as I have to wait for the animation to go through.

I with they either made sprint fit smoother with the rest of the combat or just remove it and make the maps small enough that sprint isn't needed.
 

daedalius

Member
So they made all the maps so big you have to sprint to cover ground. The problem is, they added a delay between sprinting and shooting which to me discourages sprinting, or at the least gives the guy who see's me sprinting an advantage as I have to wait for the animation to go through.

I with they either made sprint fit smoother with the rest of the combat or just remove it and make the maps small enough that sprint isn't needed.

Its supposed to be a trade-off...
 
One thing I noticed last night is that assassinations still happen a lot when I'm only trying to tap the melee button for a quick kill. And every time it happens, I usually pay the price and end up getting assassinated immediately after. Grrrr.
Switch to Recon. It'll work well against those unwanted assassinations.
 

Tashi

343i Lead Esports Producer
So they made all the maps so big you have to sprint to cover ground. The problem is, they added a delay between sprinting and shooting which to me discourages sprinting, or at the least gives the guy who see's me sprinting an advantage as I have to wait for the animation to go through.

I with they either made sprint fit smoother with the rest of the combat or just remove it and make the maps small enough that sprint isn't needed.

I actually like that there's a delay. You can't just sprint everywhere all the time. It makes people think about their surroundings and when they can sprint safely. Also the slow down when being shot while sprinting is a gamechanger. I've been killed because of it many times. Gotta adjust to that. The thing that bugs me still is the reticle disappearing and reappearing when you're able to shoot. I think I'll get used to it but that's it.

Also, I don't look at the medals anymore to the left. If I get an overkill or something I look at the text in middle. That's a shame. I always loved the medals in Halo and they seem to be fading away.
 
Adrift is an awful map for CTF but I had a pretty great on it.

2-2 with a few minutes remaining, I rush to the enemy base and end up escorting someone with the flag towards the middle of the map. End up dying a bunch of times trying to refresh the timer but eventually clear enough people to walk back to the base and score. I look down and see that there is only 10 seconds left but I realize that the other team managed to grab our flag and make a run for it while we were attacking.

Time ran out with them two feet away from scoring.
What? It's great for a fast-moving CTF game. If only the KILL marker could be removed from the flag carrier, playing defense would be something other than stupidly easy.

There is clearly no real drive in 343 for customization like there was at Bungie.

It just seems pretty evident. Half the gametypes (race, vip, assault, stockpile, headhunter, invasion, that's not including those that were sort of but not exactly replaced) were removed. Those that remain have invariably been ravaged (flood, ctf) or unimproved (the rest).

While the attack (and this isn't just neglect, it's an active attack) on custom options may not make the game less fun right now, it could really hurt the multiplayer in the long run, what with the lack of variety and change. We'll see how things play out...
"Active attack", are you shitting me?
 
"I remember when HaloGaf was a different place, I remember when Halo was a different game." What are you guys, 60? You sound like old people stuck on the past.

If you whine about this game to get things to change, guess what, nobody will listen except other whiners. If you want to have a positive influence, bring some insight into the thread without having the attitude of "ha, I told you this would suck so I'm better" attitude.

I'm surprised Ellis and O'Connor even come here anymore; its just a Halo bashing thread at this point. They know what our problems are with the game, they probably agree with a good deal of it. Regardless of what you people think, however, they don't have ultimate power and can't make changes with every little whim.
 

LAUGHTREY

Modesty becomes a woman
What? It's great for a fast-moving CTF game. If only the KILL marker could be removed from the flag carrier, playing defense would be something other than stupidly easy.

"Active attack", are you shitting me?

What part of that is ridiculous? They've said about CTF they want people to try it this way, and then they'll see if they can put the classic mode back in.

They didn't do this on accident, this shit is on purpose. Which I can totally understand and get for matchmaking, I don't go into multi-team and bitch about it.

I make custom gametypes and maps and play that shit like I like it.

Instant respawns and not being able to drop the flag are shit I don't like.

Again, I repeat, in custom games you can not turn off instant respawn. How is that ok?
 
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