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Halo |OT15| Beta-tested, GAF approved

Moa

Moa

Member
Does anybody here regularly play Big Team Battle in Halo 4?

If so, need your help/input quickly.
 
F

Fracas

#fuckonami
Certain Affinity's name is on the box for Halo 4, right? If not, it better be. They made a huge amount of the game.
 
D

Deadly Cyclone

Pride of Iowa State
reggie said:
What do you want me to say? Any the potential the maps had disappeared once Certain Affinity attached their name to it.
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Seriously? The maps look solid. Smaller spaces as requested, nice aesthetic, etc. Just funny that you'd throw them away based on a developer name.
 
D

Deadly Cyclone

Pride of Iowa State
reggie said:
Do you blame me? They've yet to make anything good.
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Yeah, I do, because they have. The base game has a handful of solid maps. Maybe you're just not into that style of map, and are looking for more Halo 2 style, but that doesn't make every CA map bad.
 
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Karl2177

Member
TheOddOne said:
Did you watch the video or the read the article? Pretty much explains it all.
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"With this map pack in particular, [Certain Infinity] did the level layouts. We would playtest together, we'd give feedback and ask for certain refinements ... and they did the majority of the layouts and figuring out the concept work for what the visual language of the levels was going to be and what their themes are."

It says what CA did. It doesn't say what 343 did aside from request changes. It really sounds like 343 didn't do much.
 
F

Fracas

#fuckonami
Honest question: Why doesn't MS just try to buy Certain Affinity instead of outsourcing? Or do they already own them?

Just incorporate them into 343.
 
A

Akai__

Member
kylej said:
Certain Affinity again? Does anyone at 343 actually... make stuff?
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C

Caja 117

Member
Karl2177 said:
When you drop the ball, is your time reverted back to 0 since you last picked up the ball? When you step out of the hill your time isn't reverted back to what it was before you entered the hill, is it? And yes. There are some bad hill placements in the game. That's why we should get rid of those hill placements. I don't know what Lookout is, but I'm assuming you mean Lockout.

Go through my posts again. Tell me where I mention that I want a "cute kd" for objective players. Then tell me where I want the ability for the objective player to at least be able to defend themselves without losing all progress on the objective.

Here are my points from one of my previous posts on the matter, reorganized for a bit of clarity:
-Extraction would be leagues better if it had sticky arming, but it doesn't.
-It would be better if it had a visible zone, but it doesn't.
-It would be so much better if the player didn't have to hold a button for an eternity(one reason why Dominion is bad).
-It would be better if the player could move their model while extracting.
-It would be better if the plant points were in better positions.

The first 4 are of the gametype itself. The last one is about the maps it's placed on. If it doesn't work very well on any map, it probably shouldn't be in matchmaking(I say shouldn't because I know that they are going to put it in regardless).
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In KotH and Oddball it doesnt because is time based objective, but it doesnt take away the fact that in one of them you cant shoot back, the other you are exposed to incoming nades, just like extraction, and as the objective player is your choice of either drop the objective to fight back, or complete those last 2 second left to arm.

Btw I wasnt impliying that you wanted a cute KD, i was saying tha as the player with the objective you are the one that going to die the most.

We are going to be repliying on the same thing back and forth, you just dont see extraction as I do, which for me is the best objective type in Halo 4, Haven extraction has been in gamebattles for months now and I can tell you are the first person i have come across that doesnt like it.

I still insist you really havent give a good chance to the gametype, because those negative you see on it doesnt let you appreciate it, ohhh well to each its own.

Whenever you like to.play with me, sent me an invite, maybe i can convince you with actions and not words.
 
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Risen

Member
Striker said:
You enjoy getting killed by being shot once in the foot?
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The problem isn't getting killed by being shot once in the foot... it's that it's offered up in an ordnance drop by percent chance. Win the lottery, get kills.

Put it on the map in a static location, with limited ammo, on a timer... BAM... Halo.
 
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VivaciousJazzy

Member
TheOddOne said:
Did you watch the video or the read the article? Pretty much explains it all.
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So I watched it again and re-read and what? What did 343 do besides play test? Any competent person that has play tested community maps and settings before could do this. What does 343 do? We're almost 5 months into this game with an extremely long list of things wrong with it and have only been getting tiny small improvements in matchmaking in the past few weeks, and will be receiving a meager title update. They've managed to alienate every community, the population is failing with each passing day and cant seem to manage to lift a finger.

What does 343 do?

Karl2177 said:
"With this map pack in particular, [Certain Infinity] did the level layouts. We would playtest together, we'd give feedback and ask for certain refinements ... and they did the majority of the layouts and figuring out the concept work for what the visual language of the levels was going to be and what their themes are."

It says what CA did. It doesn't say what 343 did aside from request changes. It really sounds like 343 didn't do much.
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dragonelite

Member
Risen said:
The problem isn't getting killed by being shot once in the foot... it's that it's offered up in an ordnance drop by percent chance. Win the lottery, get kills.

Put it on the map in a static location, with limited ammo, on a timer... BAM... Halo.
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This will make people fight for that winning ticket :p
 
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Havok

Member
Throwdown CTF variants need an update to the flag capture radius.

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I had to run over it two more times before it would register the cap.
Risen said:
The problem isn't getting killed by being shot once in the foot... it's that it's offered up in an ordnance drop by percent chance. Win the lottery, get kills.

Put it on the map in a static location, with limited ammo, on a timer... BAM... Halo.
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That weapon is obnoxious no matter how it spawns. No descope, laser sight disappears with camo, but especially because it gives incredibly easy one hit kills. You could put a weapon in a static location and limited ammo that blew up half the map and killed everyone on that side when you used it, that doesn't make it fun to fight against.
 
MrGreencastle

MrGreencastle

Member
Crosspost from DBO:

Inspired by a Reddit user, I decided to take a couple interesting frames from the trailer and annotate them with things I've noticed, as well as some speculation. I've tried to connect things together as best as I can. Remember, a lot of this stuff is subject to change, so take it all with a grain of salt. Apologies if it is difficult to read.






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Thanks for reading!
 
D

Dirtbag

Member
Maps looks pretty good from what I can see of those hype vids....

Pretty aesthetics in the skyboxes, kind of bland on the ground level, but they looked pretty cool layout wise. Nice it not a bunch of rocks again though.

Monolith has my attention. Can't wait for the next try and play promo!
 
M

Merguson

Banned
I sure hope the story isn't going to be delivered over a period of time. That's just crap. Which means it probably will be delivered over a period of time.
 
H

Havok

Member
Moa said:
Fix is incoming on Monday
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Excellent. Throwdown is the only thing I can play now that I've seen a no-JIP, no-guest world, so seeing the little things getting fixed is great. Going back to the other playlists and getting all of the normal nonsense immediately was a nightmare.
 
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Poker Face

Member
Merguson said:
I sure hope the story isn't going to be delivered over a period of time. That's just crap. Which means it probably will be delivered over a period of time.
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eh I see it more of a way to name the chapters of the story. like "Mission One: Rally Point Bravo"

the reticule looks like the AR's from reach. Probably just a placeholder but maybe no ADS....?
 
T

TCKaos

Member
Hooray for asymmetrical maps with symmetrical gametypes.

Again.

I'm hoping they'll be slightly more balanced than anything we got at launch, more akin to Condemned than to Abandon, y'know? It was forgettable and kinda large, but it played well with symmetrical gametypes despite being asymmetrical from my experiences with it.

Monolith likes like absolute bliss, though. That should be fun.

There also looked like some Jetpack heavy maps in there and I'm not liking that at all.
 
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IHaveIce

Banned
Havok said:
Throwdown CTF variants need an update to the flag capture radius.



I had to run over it two more times before it would register the cap.
That weapon is obnoxious no matter how it spawns. No descope, laser sight disappears with camo, but especially because it gives incredibly easy one hit kills. You could put a weapon in a static location and limited ammo that blew up half the map and killed everyone on that side when you used it, that doesn't make it fun to fight against.
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Yes I encountered the same problem with the flag, at first I thought my teammate were too dumb to capture it, but after I did it myself I had the same problem. Felt really weird.
 
R

Risen

Member
Havok said:
You could put a weapon in a static location and limited ammo that blew up half the map and killed everyone on that side when you used it, that doesn't make it fun to fight against.
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No, but it makes it fun as hell to use lol... and it makes it your fault when you don't get it... rather than it being decided by percent chance.
 
S

Steelyuhas

Member
TheOddOne said:
Really like that they actually made an behind the scenes video for map pack video while also promoting it. Also, Bravo is associate producer? He making moves!
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Associate Producer has probably always been his title. Large companies like MS have a lot of generic job titles that are associated with specific levels in the company and don't necessarily directly state what their actual job is.
GhaleonEB said:
Halo 5: The Search for Cortana, even though she is definitely dead, but we're going to assume she is not because we don't want her to be, and it will probably be a decision that pays off because apparently no one really dies in the Halo franchise, even when they are dead like the Librarian, they show up and interact with characters just like they are alive, but they are "dead". Something something scifi.

Halo 6: The Wrath of Halsey
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New maps looks nice, I have the season pass so obviously I'll check them out. If they are not regular in playlists though, they again become a waste of DLC.
 
Computer

Computer

Member
I was expecting skyline to have a much bigger view of the skyline. Most of the map appears to be indoors with a small view of the city on one side in the middle. The art and colors of the maps are starting to blend. The lighting or somthing makes every thing look bland and the color gamma needs to be cranked up this is not cod.
 
FUNKNOWN iXi

FUNKNOWN iXi

Member
Risen said:
No, but it makes it fun as hell to use lol... and it makes it your fault when you don't get it... rather than it being decided by percent chance.
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I wouldn't even agree with the "not fun to fight against" mentality. Personally, I find it fun to avoid that red laser lol.. makes it intense B]

How is fighting against a Rocket, Boltshot, etc. any more fun than someone using a Binary Rifle?


MrGreencastle said:
Beacon grenade: ProVis done right.
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I've been saying it for a long time now but Halo seriously needs to start getting some ideas from the Gears franchise.. Those Beacon grenades are LEGIT. This game is looking like the Unreal Tournament of cover-based shooters.
 
U

User 73706

Banned
Moa said:
Any idea how many Sticky grenades it takes to destroy a Mantis & Scorpion tank? I would check but little busy at the moment.
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Warthog is 4.

I would assume Mantis is 5. For reference, using Grenadier + Explosives + Plasma Pistol: if you EMP the Mantis, it only takes three plasmas unshielded - exactly the number you spawn with.
 
L

LosDaddie

Banned
Shit OT, but expected.

New maps look good. I can't wait to play on them. They come out real soon, right? I should be done with Mark of the Ninja by then.


Mindwipe said:
Which if anyone wants to pool together and play to get this week, hit me up. They're bad now, they'll be awful when there's no Crimson playlist.
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I'm game. Just a few cheevos left for me. Or did this party already happen?
 
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BlueScrote

Member
Havok said:
Throwdown CTF variants need an update to the flag capture radius.



I had to run over it two more times before it would register the cap.
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I had that issue multiple times last night as well. It's especially annoying on close games where your running to the stand with someone hot on your heels.
 
E

EagleBurnn

Banned
MrGreencastle said:
Crosspost from DBO:

Inspired by a Reddit user, I decided to take a couple interesting frames from the trailer and annotate them with things I've noticed, as well as some speculation. I've tried to connect things together as best as I can. Remember, a lot of this stuff is subject to change, so take it all with a grain of salt. Apologies if it is difficult to read.



Thanks for reading!
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That's awesome. The best things about huge games being hyped up is the evidence gather from trailers frame by frame when we know little about it. Great analysis.
 
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