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Woorloog

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-I thought you can still watch movies and play single player games without online?

-They have not even confirmed what the pricing for live is yet?

I was being sarcastic/pessimistic. EDIT also, referred to game dedis, not Live servers

Also, online connection every 24h. Not exactly "without online". And i don't watch films on Xbox usually, PC suits me just fine.

EDIT seriously, i wouldn't be surprised if Live sub would be raised a bit.
 
I was being sarcastic/pessimistic. EDIT also, referred to game dedis, not Live servers

Also, online connection every 24h. Not exactly "without online". And i don't watch films on Xbox usually, PC suits me just fine.

EDIT seriously, i wouldn't be surprised if Live sub would be raised a bit.

But could you imagine the E3 conference if they come out and show 6-8 AAA games that look absolutely phenomenal and then end their conference with something like "All of that and more. Oh, and...Xbox Live is going to come free with all Xbox Ones."

The pandemonium. :lol
 

gAg CruSh3r

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I was being sarcastic/pessimistic. EDIT also, referred to game dedis, not Live servers

Also, online connection every 24h. Not exactly "without online". And i don't watch films on Xbox usually, PC suits me just fine.

EDIT seriously, i wouldn't be surprised if Live sub would be raised a bit.

Oh okay, well I watch blu-ray movies and other things all the time. I honestly think they will lower the price for live and give a discount on Xbox live gold bundles for families on a single Xbox One.
 

Woorloog

Banned
But could you imagine the E3 conference if they come out and show 6-8 AAA games that look absolutely phenomenal and then end their conference with something like "All of that and more. Oh, and...Xbox Live is going to come free with all Xbox Ones."

The pandemonium. :lol

Free multiplayer would be about the only thing to make me consider Xbox One, assuming Sony keeps their multiplayer free.
Then games would decide (ie, the one with epic scifi RPG (akin to Mass Effect) or space combat sim. Not expecting either one to happen).

Oh okay, well I watch blu-ray movies and other things all the time. I honestly think they will lower the price for live and give a discount on Xbox live gold bundles for families on a single Xbox One.

Bundle discounts? Sure. Lower price? No way. If they can get away with current one, they won't lower them. If they can get away with rising the price...
 
People keep saying either Halo 2 Anniversary can't come out because of the 9th year anniversary thing, or 2014 belongs to Halo 5 and they won't release two in one year.

But what about launching Halo 2 Anniversary in early January of 2014? Get in on that Christmas cash, while also being out during the 10th anniversary year.

They could just call it Halo 2 HD and release it whenever they want.
 

Tashi

343i Lead Esports Producer
Well what MS should do to avoid another CE/No XBL MP fiasco is to call it Halo 2 Xbox Live or something like that. Or Halo 2 Anniversary: Xbox Live. Something that let's people know right off the bat that there will be online multiplayer.

edit: Yea that Kinect night vision shit was definitely cool. I'm actually sorta pleased it's coming with Kinect. I always wanted to try one but wasn't going to drop the money on one. I'll probably be using the Skype chat all the fucking time too.
 

Conor 419

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Major Nelson's blog on used games:
"We know there is some confusion around used games on Xbox One and wanted to provide a bit of clarification on exactly what we’ve confirmed today. While there have been many potential scenarios discussed, today we have only confirmed that we designed Xbox One to enable our customers to trade in and resell games at retail.

Beyond that, we have not confirmed any specific scenarios."

Oh, you named the backpedal quote, cool.

To suggest I shouldn't name any Team Ico projects is absurd, they are the staple of Sony's repertoire.
 

Computer

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One big thing that came from the reveal that most everyone over looks is dedicated severs for all MP games. I dont recall Sony saying anything about this. So if Sony goes with p2p xbl will have a big advantage and finally be worth the fee.
 

willow ve

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Blah blah blah. XB1 could be great if they just come up with real answers. Major Nelson says one thing, Phil says something else, Wired mag reports confirmations from other Microsoft sources. And they all contradict.

They need a singular source of information. They also need to clearly state when something isn't decided yet. Maybe Bravo should take over. He greatly improved the clarity of the bulletin.
 
One big thing that came from the reveal that most everyone over looks is dedicated severs for all MP games. I dont recall Sony saying anything about this. So if Sony goes with p2p xbl will have a big advantage and finally be worth the fee.
Didn't get overlooked, but it's common practice to berate what you hate far more than to give praise for things like that. Should be cool if it does what they claim.
 

Shadders

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What about Littlebigplanet, The Last Guardian and countless other Sony IP?

Also really? So even as a UK citizen (apparently) you're going to be more than pleased to put up with the sheer devesation this system is going to deliver? No used games, mandatory online and Kinect etc?

There is no way the combination of second rate iterations of Microsoft's IP with their terrible consumer relationships is going to have me choose their system over the PS4 and certainly not the Wii U.

I'm a UK citizen. I'll be getting the Xbox One.

What do you think that Fifa exclusivity deal was for?

One big thing that came from the reveal that most everyone over looks is dedicated severs for all MP games. I dont recall Sony saying anything about this. So if Sony goes with p2p xbl will have a big advantage and finally be worth the fee.

First party PS3 games have dedicated servers. I imagine PS4 will too.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
One big thing that came from the reveal that most everyone over looks is dedicated severs for all MP games. I dont recall Sony saying anything about this. So if Sony goes with p2p xbl will have a big advantage and finally be worth the fee.

Uh, wat? I don't remember them saying anything about dedicated servers for XBL games. What they said was they were expanding the amount of Xbox live servers. That isn't the same as dedis for games.
 
Yeah, on the whole I had low expectations for yesterday. But making a list of everything we know so far, I'm very disappointed with their direction (and shocked at their lack of message control).
Still plenty of time for things to change, or not.
Uh, wat? I don't remember them saying anything about dedicated servers for XBL games. What they said was they were expanding the amount of Xbox live servers. That isn't the same as dedis for games.
It was in the wired article.
 
Me and my Bro share games but have seperate consoles. It's a reason for us both to not want it.



Pretty much waiting on this and the line up of games.



I agree on all of them but Forza. They've made great games and done very well at interacting with the community.

I have kids so I have 2 consoles so they can play Minecreaft or whatever and I can game in the other room. Maybe they address this in a new family plan?

I am also surprised there is not more outrage over XBL arcade games not being BC. That is one thing Apple does right. So all those arcade games that I have no physical media just go bye bye.
 

IHaveIce

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I have kids so I have 2 consoles so they can play Minecreaft or whatever and I can game in the other room. Maybe they address this in a new family plan?

I am also surprised there is not more outrage over XBL arcade games not being BC. That is one thing Apple does right. So all those arcade games that I have no physical media just go bye bye.

I'm pretty sure I read somewhere they will introduce some kind of family system so kids have the same games.

Also if full retail games have no BC, xbl also can't have it. They are both the same code
 
I am also surprised there is not more outrage over XBL arcade games not being BC. That is one thing Apple does right. So all those arcade games that I have no physical media just go bye bye.
People are more distracted by worse things. And if the system wasn't bc with 360 disk based games, it obviously couldn't be bc with Arcade games...
 

willow ve

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Off topic - finally got my official license as a registered architect today. Apparently they approved everything in April but forgot to email me (thanksobama).
 
I find the section but no mention of LASO =\

Waypoint doesnt mark your LASO plays as LASO just Legendary if you want to see the skulls you used on the recent mission, You can see it on the console waypoint app.

EDIT: you can see the skulls you used on the waypoint page, you have to select the mission you cleared and scroll down to see them because is invisible until you scroll down the page.

EDIT: which is kinda stupid, still
 

willow ve

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Waypoint doesnt mark your LASO plays as LASO just Legendary if you want to see the skulls you used on the recent mission, You can see it on the console waypoint app.

which is kinda stupid
Xbox snap Waypoint app (loading... loading... this app requires an update)
 

senador

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Today, I am depressed over the future of gaming. I currently do not feel that I fit into the target audience of any platform (PS4, Xbox One, Wii U, PC), and that fucking sucks. I've been a core gamer since I was 8. Now what? I'm sure this will change, I'm probably in one the 5 stages of grief or whatever right now. But yeah, fucking sucks.

Our GTs carry over though. So if I have over 100 friends on Xbox One, I would have over 100 on 360.

Been thinking this too based on what has been said. If they don't plan for 1000 on 360, then what happens?
 
Oh, you named the backpedal quote, cool.

To suggest I shouldn't name any Team Ico projects is absurd, they are the staple of Sony's repertoire.

Staple:
Noun
A piece of bent metal or wire pushed through something or clipped over it as a fastening, in particular.
A main or important element of something, esp. of a diet: "bread, milk, and other staples".

A single, unreleased game in the current generation doesn't even begin to meet that criteria today. Maybe back in the PS2 days when they released two acclaimed games.

A staple would be killzone, god of war, or ratchet and clank.
 

Woorloog

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Today, I am depressed over the future of gaming. I currently do not feel that I fit into the target audience of any platform (PS4, Xbox One, Wii U, PC), and that fucking sucks. I've been a core gamer since I was 8. Now what? I'm sure this will change, I'm probably in one the 5 stages of grief or whatever right now. But yeah, fucking sucks.

Why not? PC and PS4 (no comment on WiiU) seem to be suiting you, if you're core gamer.
Or what is it you're looking for?
 
The more I read the more I wonder what MS expected. I can't imagine they thought the reaction would be this bad. I'm guessing they never planned to talk about the 2nd hand plan & daily verification yesterday?
Our GTs carry over though. So if I have over 100 friends on Xbox One, I would have over 100 on 360.
True, but the reason they said they haven't done this previously is some 360 games break if the friends list is over 100.*

*according to yesterday's Giant Bombcast

There are a few solutions that involve you only seeing 100. e.g. You can only have friends who started on 360s and only 100 of these
 

Conor 419

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Staple:
Noun
A piece of bent metal or wire pushed through something or clipped over it as a fastening, in particular.
A main or important element of something, esp. of a diet: "bread, milk, and other staples".

A single, unreleased game in the current generation doesn't even begin to meet that criteria today. Maybe back in the PS2 days when they released two acclaimed games.

A staple would be killzone, god of war, or ratchet and clank.

Of course they're a staple, they've released two of Sony's most treasured and beloved titles across their history. They are actively developing a game which we have no reason to believe will not release.

I know as a Microsoft fan you'll find this a rather alien concept which is hard to believe, but some studios actually do care about their IP and the projects they're creating, and will actually hold them back until they're ready (Team Ico; TLG, Nintendo; Zelda/Pikmin) as opposed to rushing out a shitty title which butchers the identity of a series and makes absolutely zero sense in the grand scheme of things regarding the internal story and extended universe (343i; Halo 4).
 

senador

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Why not? PC and PS4 (no comment on WiiU) seem to be suiting you, if you're core gamer.
Or what is it you're looking for?

I've never like Sony, hate the PS controllers, and really hate the PS UI. They could win me over, but I can't see myself playing competitive games on the platform.

PC sounds like a good fit, but the expense, maintenance, using Windows, setting it up in my office and living room, etc, doesn't sound appealing at all. I've been an Xbox lover since 2001, but I currently feel betrayed.

We need way more information and I really need to see what Halo is doing. Halo will probably get me to buy a Xbox One even if its just for campaigns.
 
The more I read the more I wonder what MS expected. I can't imagine they thought the reaction would be this bad. I'm guessing they never planned to talk about the 2nd hand plan & daily verification yesterday?

True, but the reason they said they haven't done this previously is some 360 games break if the friends list is over 100.*

*according to yesterday's Giant Bombcast

There are a few solutions that involve you only seeing 100. e.g. You can only have friends who started on 360s and only 100 of these

I thought of that solution too when we couldn't have more than 100 on Xbox 360 because the limit was integral to Xbox 1 (lol Xbox 1) Xbox live support but it it was never implemented.
 

heckfu

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I imagine that Xbox One will be a separate Live subscription tied to your gamertag. I bet the premium is higher, too, since we're getting more friend slots and dedis.

I mean with everything else we've seen, can't you see that happening?
 

neoism

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I met Mr. Spielberg very briefly several years ago at E3. You have to know this about me, in my previous political career I worked with some incredibly powerful people, so I don't intimidate easily. However, he was the first person I ever encountered where I was actually afraid to make eye contact. I knew if for some bizarre reason he didn't like the way I looked, he could say the words and I would be looking for another job.

Fortunately he was very nice (I basically just said hello and he went on to his next meeting) and I am entirely too paranoid. :)

I'm sure Frank has better stories. Naturally, I am very excited that we announced the TV series, and looking forward to hearing what everyone thinks about the rest of the Xbox One goodies from the rest of Microsoft at E3. True story, I didn't actually know the final name of the system until it was announced publicly.

lol damn MS doesn't even trust its #1 first party developer... that's a little sad..

Can you tell us how much the budget is for each episode... :( I still wish MS would just grow some balls and just my a damn movie already... You already have a guide for a script... its called The Fall of Reach.
 

senador

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I imagine that Xbox One will be a separate Live subscription tied to your gamertag. I bet the premium is higher, too, since we're getting more friend slots and dedis.

I mean with everything else we've seen, can't you see that happening?

Maybe, but currently they said it will be the same gamertag and subscription.
 

Woorloog

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I've never like Sony, hate the PS controllers, and really hate the PS UI. They could win me over, but I can't see myself playing competitive games on the platform.

PC sounds like a good fit, but the expense, maintenance, using Windows, setting it up in my office and living room, etc, doesn't sound appealing at all. I've been an Xbox lover since 2001, but I currently feel betrayed.

We need way more information and I really need to see what Halo is doing. Halo will probably get me to buy a Xbox One even if its just for campaigns.

"Never liked Sony" is kinda weak reason. What does the history matter? (Unless it is about trustworthiness, of course, then i understand)

I have no history with Sony consoles, and i really dislike the PS controllers (DS4 seems to have fixed my complaints though, namely the ergonomics), and they've never had any exclusive games that would interest me (so far) but as a gamer, their console seems to be very appealing. And the extra features are very gamer-centric (screenshots, video, streaming). So, i can see myself jumping to that boat.
Assuming it gets interesting games.
EDIT PS UI, PS3 UI or the prototypical PS4 UI? Regardless, if you're gamer, you're spending time with games, no the UI.

PC... I see. I understand. I'll add tweaking settings etc. to the pile, along with driver updates and whatever issues that may occur.
Uncomparable flexibility though, if one is willing to get everything to work.
 

Tashi

343i Lead Esports Producer
I want the ability to have a keyboard and mouse peripheral and licensing from Riot for League of Legends: Xbox Edition.

Hell yea! They should definitely do it. Make their own gaming mice and mechanical keyboards. Would be sick.
 
I imagine that Xbox One will be a separate Live subscription tied to your gamertag. I bet the premium is higher, too, since we're getting more friend slots and dedis.
I mean with everything else we've seen, can't you see that happening?

Has this actually been confirmed? From what I've read (correct me if I'm wrong), it was just a possibility floated in the Wired article.

Wired.com said:
Perhaps most intriguing, however, is that Xbox One gives game developers the ability to access Microsoft’s Azure cloud computing platform. That leads to a few obvious and immediate applications: All your downloaded and installed games and achievements are synced to the cloud and can be accessed and played without interruption on any Xbox One you sign in to; stable, dedicated servers for every multiplayer game rather than the notoriously fragile practice of hosting matches on one participant’s console; even multiplayer matches that can grow to 64, even 128 participants, rather than the usual limit of 16 or 32.

But other possibilities also come to mind.

It reads to me like these are possible things that devs can do now with Azure support, but not necessarily guaranteed that they will. As has been noted before, 360 games can already do dedis, but the cost is leveled against the dev/publisher, whereas Azure is run by MS. Unless it's been confirmed guaranteed dedis (again, in which case, ignore me), that's the only conclusion I would draw from that writeup.
 
I know you got the answer re: DVI converter but you will need an audio source, DVI is just video. You can run Optical to your TV, Receiver or sound card if you have that.

Ah luckily I have external pc speakers which I use with my VGA setup at the moment so I hope it would work in the same sort of way. I guess when I'm at home I'll need to check I'f my monitor supports dvi but I imagine it would do.

Either way to really take advantage of screen in screen I'll need a bigger monitor/ tv anyway - kylej is already sorted here lol. Thanks for the advice guys!
 

senador

Banned
"Never liked Sony" is kinda bad reason. What does the history matter? (Unless it is about trustworthiness, of course, then i understand)

I have no history with Sony consoles, and i really dislike the PS controllers (DS4 seems to have fixed my complaints though, namely the ergonomics), and they've never had any exclusive games that would interest me (so far) but as a gamer, their console seems to be very appealing. And the extra features are very gamer-centric (screenshots, video, streaming). So, i can see myself jumping to that boat.
Assuming it gets interesting games.
EDIT PS UI, PS3 UI or the prototypical PS4 UI? Regardless, if you're gamer, you're spending time with games, no the UI.

PC... I see. I understand. I'll add tweaking settings etc. to the pile, along with driver updates and whatever issues that may occur.
Uncomparable flexibility though, if one is willing to get everything to work.

How is no liking Sony not an issue? It is for me, which is why I said it. I'm not cool with how they handled their security breach a few years back and that they allowed it to happen in the first place. There's a number of other thing, but yeah, i just don't like them. It'll make it hard for me to want a PS4. This isn't exactly the place for this though.

Really curious to know when will hear about more Halo games. I still feel we will at E3, or something is very wrong.
 

Woorloog

Banned
How is no liking Sony not an issue? It is for me, which is why I said it. I'm not cool with how they handled their security breach a few years back and that they allowed it to happen in the first place. There's a number of other thing, but yeah, i just don't like them. It'll make it hard for me to want a PS4. This isn't exactly the place for this though.

Really curious to know when will hear about more Halo games. I still feel we will at E3, or something is very wrong.

Not liking them for... why? Indifference, and not liking them for having bad experiences with their things i can understand. But without any experience?

That security breach.. ugh, they handled it really badly. Presumably they've learned from it. I hope.


As for Halo, as Steelyuhas said yesterday... well, morning (my time), Halo is pretty much annualized so somethng will be likely announced for this year.
And perhaps some teaser for the future.
I wonder about that Steam database, Halo CE and 2 appearing in it, perhaps we'll hear more at E3.
 

Mix

Member
I really think that the potential for the XONE is huge and I cannot wait to see what a halo game will look like running on this new gear. I will definitely pick up day one and be more than happy with my 1000 friends friend list and snapping YouTube and Netflix will waiting in the post/pre game lobbies.
 
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