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Halo |OT7| You may leave, Juices. And take Team Downer with you.

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Do watchers have any offensive capabilities?

I don't think it can be like a watcher that follows you around. Otherwise the only drawback to the AA is that you don't have another AA.

You deploy it. always. And it follows you. What's the downside here?

Even if it was more like a Modern Warfare sentry, what's the downside to it? You set it up near your base, near their spawn. And go about your merry way.

Jetpack makes you a target and is loud.
Camo scrambles your radar, you need to be slow.
Hard Light Shield makes you slow, you can't shoot.
Thruster is one big dive away or toward something, you can't shoot while thrusting.
Hologram.... well its a fun silly ability.


I really want to find out how it works. The name alone, along with regeneration field, worry me.

Autosentry dies when you do. MTW said kill times are fast but it's boring to use; I'm guessing it's offset by really stupid AI. Think Halo 3's campaign auto-turrets.
 

daedalius

Member
I was thinking of that. How's the population?

Any others?

H2PC has a pathetic population and horrible custom servers.

Custom games servers with sword secondaries, plasma guns that shoot rockets, tanks and banshees on a 10s respawn, etc. ITS SO GREAT!
 
I don't know 80% of current Halogaf.. wtf. Really wish Frankie and David hadn't gone overboard with the info dropping here. I miss the Halo 3 era crew..
Do you know me? I had about 20 posts in the Halo 3 OT.

Kind of funny story: I always thought OuterWorldVoice were Frankie imitator until the Halo: Reach topics. Good times lurking were back then.
 

Hitokage

Setec Astronomer
While what Plywood specifically did was obnoxious, people need to calm down if a thread gets crazy for a couple pages. It'll be ok.
 

kylej

Banned
Let's bash COD for not having any type of map editor 20 games in...nah.

I think that sucks balls too. I don't know why paying consumers settle for shit that could be way better. Activision has about 15 studios dedicated to Call of Duty and makes a billion dollars each time they release a game. The COD community should be demanding a map editor.
 

Ramirez

Member
H2PC has a pathetic population and horrible custom servers.

Custom games servers with sword secondaries, plasma guns that shoot rockets, tanks and banshees on a 10s respawn, etc. ITS SO GREAT!

Man, I wish 4 had a custom browser.

Kyle, I understand why you guys are mad about spectator mode. For me personally though, I have no interest in watching 99.9% of people. It would be cool for GAF matches, but on the whole I wouldn't really use it. I'm also not convinced dedis would cure everything either, L4D used dedis and its one of the worst experiences on Live half the time, heh.
 

nillapuddin

Member
I need a solid competitive PC shooter. Any recs?

FTP: Blacklight Retribution, tons of options and customization, really fun

Think Battlefield-esque Kill Times, etc

FTP: Tribes Ascend, obviously much different FPS than you might be used to but I like it

There are fun roles to play, so you can always find a niche and contribute

Full Games: BF3, Crysis 2, idk?
 

Tawpgun

Member
Not to get anyones hopes up.

But... we haven't heard anything about theater mode yet. While we know we're not getting a spectator mode... whose to say Theater isn't going to get some neat improvements? Ideally a basic clip editor and render to youtube option. No other CONSOLE game supports machinima like Halo does.

Autosentry dies when you do. MTW said kill times are fast but it's boring to use; I'm guessing it's offset by really stupid AI. Think Halo 3's campaign auto-turrets.
Then it still has literally no drawback.

Vidoc plsssss
 

JHall

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The inbuilt livestreaming could single handedly launch your porn career.

I don't think the world is ready for that.

Speaking of CoD, I need a solid competitive PC shooter. Any recs?

Holy shit, kylej is still getting to some of you? Straighten up and fly right, gentlepeople.

There is always Counter-Strike, along with all the other options people have mentioned.
 

Noricart

Member
Autosentry seems inspired from Killzone's sentry, which would float around and shoot other players, following you. Intrested as most of the AAs are inspired form Shadowrun and KZ.
 

Deadly Cyclone

Pride of Iowa State
Not to get anyones hopes up.

But... we haven't heard anything about theater mode yet. While we know we're not getting a spectator mode... whose to say Theater isn't going to get some neat improvements? Ideally a basic clip editor and render to youtube option. No other CONSOLE game supports machinima like Halo does.


Then it still has literally no drawback.

Vidoc plsssss

Would LOVE some kind of youtube option. I like seeing HaloGaf's clips, and sharing some of my own. Would be nice if Halo 4 could auto-upload clips to my personal channel.
 
The very last clip shows spectator mode.

Here's the thing about that spectator mode bit: it didn't really do anything for me that someone who put some money into a decent streaming rig and a microphone doesn't already do.

I'll say it again: just get the gameplay and playlist management right. If you do, you should end up with a positive community that will put in the extra effort to stream and cast.

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Plywood banned... dark times indeed.
 

Shadders

Member
Autosentry seems inspired from Killzone's sentry, which would float around and shoot other players, following you.

Pretty sure MTW said that it stays in one place and shoots targets in front of it.

The problem with things MTW says is that they are said by MTW.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
Autosentry dies when you do. MTW said kill times are fast but it's boring to use; I'm guessing it's offset by really stupid AI. Think Halo 3's campaign auto-turrets.

Probably just boring in the fact that it's fire and forget. Also, it seems kill times in general are fast.

Man, I wish 4 had a custom browser.

Kyle, I understand why you guys are mad about spectator mode. For me personally though, I have no interest in watching 99.9% of people. It would be cool for GAF matches, but on the whole I wouldn't really use it. I'm also not convinced dedis would cure everything either, L4D used dedis and its one of the worst experiences on Live half the time, heh.

L4D was a combination of both. But when it was on Dedis it was much better experience.

GOW3 is also on dedis, and the only thing it really "solves" is host advantage, which is what most people want them for in Halo I would assume. Although Gears is a much bigger offender when it comes to that.
 

nillapuddin

Member
It sounds silly but Halo Reach really killed Theatre for me, I know the consequences of having party-viewing and they couldnt pull it off, but that really just was a delicious icing on the cake.

As much as someone people deny it, Halo is a socially competitive game.

Forge and Theater are as much of Halo as the AR / BR.


I maybe shared 4 clips with my friends over the past few years, in Halo 3 every weekend we would hop into theatre and reliive our shenanigans from the week that was, somehow by making file sharing options better, they almost made it suck more by not having party view
 

Tashi

343i Lead Esports Producer
Man, I wish 4 had a custom browser.

Kyle, I understand why you guys are mad about spectator mode. For me personally though, I have no interest in watching 99.9% of people. It would be cool for GAF matches, but on the whole I wouldn't really use it. I'm also not convinced dedis would cure everything either, L4D used dedis and its one of the worst experiences on Live half the time, heh.

Get more friends.

Also, Ram with post of the day? Could be.

Spectator mode would definitely be niche and go largely unused...but it would be nice. I'm going to be commentating the GAF tourney finals and I know it's going to be such a daunting task.
 
Not to get anyones hopes up.

But... we haven't heard anything about theater mode yet. While we know we're not getting a spectator mode... whose to say Theater isn't going to get some neat improvements? Ideally a basic clip editor and render to youtube option. No other CONSOLE game supports machinima like Halo does.

Uncharted 2 had a fairly robust theater mode. It had

-adjustable depth of field
-field of view
-shaky cam
-slow motion
-color grading
-color saturation
-ability to add fog and change its color
-green screen

There's more, here's a vid of it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gq02X8knYug&feature=youtube_gdata_player
 

Recarpo

Member
It sounds silly but Halo Reach really killed Theatre for me, I know the consequences of having party-viewing and they couldnt pull it off, but that really just was a delicious icing on the cake.

This pretty much did theater in for me, too. Another thing was that we couldn't look at fileshares before the games started so I never really got into many community maps or videos because I couldn't quickly download them while waiting in a lobby like halo 3.
 

Havok

Member
Would LOVE some kind of youtube option. I like seeing HaloGaf's clips, and sharing some of my own. Would be nice if Halo 4 could auto-upload clips to my personal channel.
This is vital to keep Theater relevant, as far as I'm concerned. Bungie Pro rendering was novel for the time, but that kind of dramatically limited paywall solution just doesn't cut it anymore.

My phone's browser crashed twice on the gif page, did I miss anything of value in between the image spam posts?
 

feel

Member
Do you know me? I had about 20 posts in the Halo 3 OT.

Kind of funny story: I always thought OuterWorldVoice were Frankie imitator until the Halo: Reach topics. Good times lurking were back then.
Yeah I think I remember you.

I didn't know OWV was Frankie on my first few days here (he wasn't posting dev like comments at that time), I had him as a completely different poster, and IIRC the moment I realized it was right after I made a sexual joke about him while he was online in the thread. Talk about awkward.




aawww Ply
 

Talents

Banned
This is vital to keep Theater relevant, as far as I'm concerned. Bungie Pro rendering was novel for the time, but that kind of dramatically limited paywall solution just doesn't cut it anymore.

My phone's browser crashed twice on the gif page, did I miss anything of value in between the image spam posts?


Well as you can see, Plywood got banned.
 

Trey

Member
This is vital to keep Theater relevant, as far as I'm concerned. Bungie Pro rendering was novel for the time, but that kind of dramatically limited paywall solution just doesn't cut it anymore.

My phone's browser crashed twice on the gif page, did I miss anything of value in between the image spam posts?

There's some good news for your browser. They got him, kid.
 

heckfu

Banned
I thought we had news drop in the 5 hours I was asleep, but no, just 7 pages of inane banter and reactions from people trying to boost their post count it looks. Awesome.
 
The GIF overload was a little overboard, and that board was made of Plywood. But a ban? Whats the shortest ban they have? I got banned for a month for making a thread about Too Human being better than Diablo 3.
 
Here's the thing about that spectator mode bit: it didn't really do anything for me that someone who put some money into a decent streaming rig and a microphone doesn't already do.

That's the thing though - Want to do multiple players' perspectives? If it's not at a LAN, then you're SOL. Even then, you'll need some pricey equipment to do proper switching/splitting/etc. Pretty sure u4iX gave a more detailed example earlier and that was just touching the surface on what's needed to provide a decent stream of a tournament.

Obviously, if it's just one player/screen that you'll never leave, then the feature isn't really needed. But that's not usually how tournaments/show matches work, is it?
 

Woorloog

Banned
The GIF overload was a little overboard, and that board was made of Plywood. But a ban? Whats the shortest ban they have? I got banned for a month for making a thread about Too Human being better than Diablo 3.

I've seen some people being banned just for a day or so, but i guess those are either mistakes or just warnings.
 
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