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Devin Olsen said:
Can we not just pay the cheaper American price and not get the mini-art book? =/
Devin Olsen said:
I know, I mentioned that already. Read the thread!11.Syracuse022 said:Ghaleon, the footer image is currently 404'ing.
I think the main complaint is that bloom makes it easier for people with the best connections to do this. And no, you would have to aim over their head better to hit themHiredN00bs said:No, I mean random headshots. One of the complaints about bloom is that it is possible (albeit rare) for someone to ignore any kind of pacing and spam out a lucky headshot. If the bloom is reduced by 15%, then there is a greater chance that the spammer will get a lucky headshot, no?
senador said:I agree with you, but since we don't know the full details and logistics of them its hard to really get into it. We see it that way, but from the business side there is still money to be made. I mean just the past week we saw a few GAF members come in and say they just bought the maps and that is $$$.
Still, there has to be a better model. Perhaps lowering the prices incrementally over time just like retail would? I would think that would bring more people in than not and actually increases sales instead of MS holding out for the full price. More people would have them too. Again though, since we don't know the full logistics and details of it, this is all speculation.
Hmm, buy the cheaper one, get the actual art book and ignore the mini one.Dani said:Can we not just pay the cheaper American price and not get the mini-art book? =/
Mojo said:(moving my post over) I think a good solution would be, have paid DLC first, then 3-4 months later it's released for free but ad-supported, so whenever the free users loaded a map from that pack, they get a small picture advertisement while loading (and restrictions? no achs / customs). And still sell an ad-free pack alongside.
Then it's required by everyone, so instead of getting revenue from 15% (?) of the playerbase, you get it from 100% and money from people who weren't going to buy them ever.
And then it's win, win. DLC owners can play DLC regularly in every playlist without any ads, and free/casual players can still play in all playlists and contribute to the player population.
It's got some issues. The lift, as said before, isn't great, and it has some serious framerate issues. The Beaver Creek, Midship, and Warlock remakes are pretty spot on though. Avoid the Elongation, Rat Race, and Derelict remakes - they've got problems.BlueScrote said:There's a lockout remake in classic? I gotta try that out, as Lockout is by far my most favorite map of the series (with runner up being the pit).
Evade doesn't need a TU, but I'm baffled the Banshee wasn't touched.Mojo said:FIX BANSHEE AND EVADE
senador said:I would love everyone to have DLC, but picturing in game ads makes me want to hurl. I am sure MS and others are thinking/planning ads in some form though already.
Havok said:It's got some issues. The lift, as said before, isn't great, and it has some serious framerate issues. The Beaver Creek, Midship, and Warlock remakes are pretty spot on though. Avoid the Elongation, Rat Race, and Derelict remakes - they've got problems.
It's too bad overpowered automatic weapons and grenades ruin that playlist.
If you don't want ads, you can always buy the ad-free DLC anytime. Otherwise you get free maps, whats to complain about a small loading screen adsenador said:I would love everyone to have DLC, but picturing in game ads makes me want to hurl. I am sure MS and others are thinking/planning ads in some form though already.
They will be releasing that list of what all the TU does soon.Striker said:Evade doesn't need a TU, but I'm baffled the Banshee wasn't touched.
Co-incidently mentioned at the end of the last thread, so ditto on the baffled.Striker said:Evade doesn't need a TU, but I'm baffled the Banshee wasn't touched.
Devin Olsen said:Sean and I are online, anyone else care to join us for some Halo?
Havok said:It's got some issues. The lift, as said before, isn't great, and it has some serious framerate issues. The Beaver Creek, Midship, and Warlock remakes are pretty spot on though. Avoid the Elongation, Rat Race, and Derelict remakes - they've got problems.
It's too bad overpowered automatic weapons and grenades ruin that playlist.
The Midship remake is one of the worst remakes I've ever played. The bases are completely different, the geometry in general is different, and it doesn't play very well from my experience.StalkerUKCG said:Midship? Really its the worst map iv ever played and seems scaled so wrongly.
Devin Olsen said:Alright you guys all managed to post on the first page of the new thread, congrats. Now come and actually play Halo instead of talking about it. -_-
It seems to be scaled a little wider than it should, but it's pretty decent given how difficult curved surfaces would be to replicate. I think it plays fine if you can look past the awful spawns, which aren't far off from the quality of default Reach spawns.StalkerUKCG said:Midship? Really its the worst map iv ever played and seems scaled so wrongly.
This is understandable. Customers want free/cheap stuff, you have costs to pay and a business to run.OuterWorldVoice said:On the subject of free maps, DLC etc., please remember that at the time, this was a brand new model and Microsoft, its competitors and everyone else was still trying to figure out how to make that business model work. It costs a crapton of money to build, implement and run these maps, with dozens of programmers, artists and designers working long man-hours to build them.
The simple reason that they cost money is that it is a business. As that business evolved and matured, the models changed - and not just for Halo, but for everyone, especially in the console space.
There's no evil mastermind trying to bilk you, simply the realities of making and selling products.
Goods and services, mang.
Yup, this is day 1 material for me.Deadly Cyclone said:By the way, I can't wait to buy this art book.
Halo: The Art of Building Worlds
http://www.amazon.com/Halo-Building-Worlds-Titan-Books/dp/0857685627
:-/ I find it hard to believe it's for out benefit, or that's it's entirely fair that a lot of Halo 3 dlc is still not free.OuterWorldVoice said:On the subject of free maps, DLC etc., please remember that at the time, this was a brand new model and Microsoft, its competitors and everyone else was still trying to figure out how to make that business model work. It costs a crapton of money to build, implement and run these maps, with dozens of programmers, artists and designers working long man-hours to build them.
The simple reason that they cost money is that it is a business. As that business evolved and matured, the models changed - and not just for Halo, but for everyone, especially in the console space.
There's no evil mastermind trying to bilk you, simply the realities of making and selling products.
Goods and services, mang.
A very good idea. And not just as a Deal of the Week.GhaleonEB said:I wanted to toss a suggestion in the mix: bundle the Noble and Defiant maps together and offer them at a discount (say, $10 for the pair) once CEA ships. That would both simplify the DLC situation and perhaps offer an incentive for those who didn't pick up the previous maps to do so.
Fixed.Havok said:It seems to be scaled a little wider than it should, but it's pretty decent given how difficult curved surfaces would be to replicate. I think it plays fine if you can look past the awful spawns, which aren't far off from the quality of defaultReachBungie spawns.
I have honestly never been able to get a match on a DLC map in BTB, and I've played that a ton. But I also don't want to have it become DLC only as the population would drop like in 3GhaleonEB said:With three DLC map packs soon in release, we'll have players owning different combinations of them (or none) in the mix, which can make findnig the new maps outside of the dedicated DLC hoppers difficult.
Don't whine - you're STILL on the front page. (Or you would be, if you were using a REAL ppp setting.)Devin Olsen said:Alright you guys all managed to post on the first page of the new thread, congrats. Now come and actually play Halo instead of talking about it. -_-
TU hasn't dropped.Devin Olsen said:Alright you guys all managed to post on the first page of the new thread, congrats. Now come and actually play Halo instead of talking about it. -_-
vhfive said:DLC maps are never going to be free ever again. That's just the way of things work now
Mojo said:If you don't want ads, you can always buy the ad-free DLC anytime. Otherwise you get free maps, whats to complain about a small loading screen ad
Deadly Cyclone said:By the way, I can't wait to buy this art book.
Halo: The Art of Building Worlds
http://www.amazon.com/Halo-Building-Worlds-Titan-Books/dp/0857685627
Frankie Save Us went mainstream.plus an introduction from "the face of Halo," Frank O'Connor.
Louis Wu said:I wanna play Reach, dammit.
Plywood said:TU hasn't dropped.
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my main complaint is still that the bases are completely the wrong shape and size, and the lifts and drops in them are just plain offHavok said:It seems to be scaled a little wider than it should, but it's pretty decent given how difficult curved surfaces would be to replicate. I think it plays fine if you can look past the awful spawns, which aren't far off from the quality of default Reach spawns.
Devin Olsen said:Alright you guys all managed to post on the first page of the new thread, congrats. Now come and actually play Halo instead of talking about it. -_-
Striker said:Evade doesn't need a TU, but I'm baffled the Banshee wasn't touched.
lybertyboy said:It was on the list, but didn't make it this time due to resources and scheduling. Believe me when I say that practically ANYTHING you could mention for a TU tweak was listed. Unfortunately we don't work in a vacuum so some tough decisions had to be made for the "shipping" TU change list.
They also haven't ruled out the possibility of giving things another pass. My fingers are crossed for plasma freeze ability to return, now that Shishka's admitted that it was among the features on that potential tweaks list.lybertyboy said:It was on the list, but didn't make it this time due to resources and scheduling. Believe me when I say that practically ANYTHING you could mention for a TU tweak was listed. Unfortunately we don't work in a vacuum so some tough decisions had to be made for the "shipping" TU change list.
In that case, is there a possibility that you guys could just remove it entirely (along with the Revenant) from the maps its currently on until a permanent fix is in the cards? It's a little drastic, but that vehicle really is an immediate fun-killer.lybertyboy said:It was on the list, but didn't make it this time due to resources and scheduling. Believe me when I say that practically ANYTHING you could mention for a TU tweak was listed. Unfortunately we don't work in a vacuum so some tough decisions had to be made for the "shipping" TU change list.
:-olybertyboy said:It was on the list, but didn't make it this time due to resources and scheduling. Believe me when I say that practically ANYTHING you could mention for a TU tweak was listed. Unfortunately we don't work in a vacuum so some tough decisions had to be made for the "shipping" TU change list.
Not watch, just a logo, like 'Brought to you by Mountain Dew' and it'd only affect the free players. If you pay, there's no difference, and you finally get to play DLC maps half the time, instead of maybe 5%. If you don't pay you still get the maps, how is that any worse than what H3 is now, where you can't even play 2/3 the MP without buying all mapssenador said:Ugh, I'm not ready for that in games yet. I know its coming eventually, but I already pay retail cost for the game and a subscription to MS to play the games online. I shouldn't have to watch ads, whether I bought DLC or not.
Y'know I'd be all for just deleting the Banshee. Nothing of value lost.lybertyboy said:It was on the list, but didn't make it this time due to resources and scheduling. Believe me when I say that practically ANYTHING you could mention for a TU tweak was listed. Unfortunately we don't work in a vacuum so some tough decisions had to be made for the "shipping" TU change list.
Deadly Cyclone said:By the way, I can't wait to buy this art book.
Halo: The Art of Building Worlds
http://www.amazon.com/Halo-Building-Worlds-Titan-Books/dp/0857685627
Me neither. I've got way too many books to buy, though. :lolDeadly Cyclone said:By the way, I can't wait to buy this art book.
Halo: The Art of Building Worlds
http://www.amazon.com/Halo-Building-Worlds-Titan-Books/dp/0857685627
Confession: when I do manage to get in a Banshee - I usually don't try - I tend to either intentionally get it destroyed or just toss it off the map. It's better for everyone.Rickenslacker said:Y'know I'd be all for just deleting the Banshee. Nothing of value lost.
StalkerUKCG said:Any possible chance at all of 343 TU2?
Rickenslacker said:Y'know I'd be all for just deleting the Banshee. Nothing of value lost.