StalkerUKCG
Banned
Tha Robbertster said:
Dpad is fine, if you really have a problem with taking you finger off the stick for less than a second then something is wrong. Do you people never press the back button or switch weapons?
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Halo: Reach |OT7| What are They to Say Now?
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Dpad is fine, if you really have a problem with taking you finger off the stick for less than a second then something is wrong. Do you people never press the back button or switch weapons?
Tha Robbertster
Member
Ken said:
Yeah, I was thinking about that, (though AA's are left bumper with standard control scheme if I recall correctly). I do think 343 won't completely remove AA's but rather alter them in a way to make them different from how we use them now and their purposes in the sandbox.
StalkerUKCG said:
I don't know how you hold your controller but I have my thumbs on the sticks and the rest of my hands at the triggers and bumpers. Since the D-pad is under the left stick, I have to take my thumb of my movement stick. That means I'm not moving and I think we both now that keep moving is pretty important in Halo.
I don't want to sacrifise my movement for that, even if it is for only 1 or 2 seconds.
StalkerUKCG said:Id be perfectly fine with a COD style radar aslong as once you spot someone they are on that radar for the duriation they are spotted for and also a little marker above the persons head.
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Ugh no way. That's the problem with radar. You just have a bunch of goons running around looking only at their radar. And me, the guy doing spectacular moves on the map, jumping on all different ledges to be sneaky, is spotted on radar by some noob who isn't even looking at the screen.
Also, I'll tell you a system that is absolutely necessary in Halo 4. If I'm forging my own map, (let's say for MLG because those seem to be the only really good ones in matchmaking) I need to be able to label a space or a jump or a ledge with a call out that shows up on screen when you're running on it. The stock Bungie callouts on the maps were for the most part awful and the real tragedy is that you couldn't change them. How many times do I go around new maps with a team and go through making up our own callouts. So janky.
Syracuse022
Member
Do you claw with your right hand? What's the distinction between pressing A-B-X-Y and pressing the D-pad?Tha Robbertster said:
Tha Robbertster said:
Oh yeah you're right.
Syracuse022 said:
Left thumb off left stick to press D-pad = momentary pause? Or maybe I'm not understanding your question.
StalkerUKCG said:
Can't really compare losing movement momentarily in Gears with Halo while trying to aim at someone.
thezerofire
Banned
the dpad is under the left stick...Tha Robbertster said:
Tha Robbertster
Member
Syracuse022 said:
While pressing these buttons, you're still able to move out of the way of enemy fire, which isn't possible when you use your left thumb.
One of the reasons I switched to Bumper Jumper was that I could jump/melee and aim at the same time. Switching weapons and grenades don't bother me that much since you can't shoot anyway while switching your weapon and I rarely switch my nade types while in combat.
thezerofire said:
Oops, will edit
K
kittens
Unconfirmed Member
HaloGAF doesn't know left from right, hah.
StalkerUKCG
Banned
Ken said:
I didnt. If it was the dpad you press you would still be able to aim, you move with the left stick.
The point is taking your finger off the left stick for less than a second to tap up isnt an impossible feat some people are acting like its going to make them loose. Its also optional. Ideally it could be mapped to a thumb stick press or LB but their already used.
What? That's not true at all.LAUGHTREY said:
While spotting is good in Battlefield and the like, it's not good in an arena game that would give such small teams such a huge advantage.
Best played with the only way of tracking a player be vocal relay of information between players that actually see/hear enemies.
thezerofire
Banned
Ok so just have it ping where the person was when you saw them. It doesn't have to follow them. Saying voice callouts being the only system is good and all but people don't use their mics the majority of the time so it's bad design.
So I had a friend over and somehow convinced him to play a couple rounds of H2 with me, whole time he complained about how the weapons in 2 were terrible, how he hated 2, melee was weak, etc etc. Crushed him in every BR duel >.<
He likes Reach 'because of all that new stuff' and claims its more like H1, not sure where he got that idea though. At least he doesn't like armor lock, I guess!
He likes Reach 'because of all that new stuff' and claims its more like H1, not sure where he got that idea though. At least he doesn't like armor lock, I guess!
Barrow Roll
Member
Works just fine in Gears 3 which is nothing like Battlefield with small maps and 5v5 games.MrBig said:
I'd like to at least try it in a beta for Halo 4.
K
kittens
Unconfirmed Member
Yeah, a Portal 2 style ping system would be cool.thezerofire said:
thezerofire
Banned
Radar provides too much information though. Most of the maps only have a couple routes though them, and it's easy to pinpoint where someone is based on their radar, with or without elevation tracking. It's too easy to camp routes when you know exactly where someone is going.MrBig said:
Man, played a game of H3 BTB.
If the population wasn't absolutely piss poor, I probably would have still been playing this since Reach came out instead. Hopefully CEA makes the magic happen again.
BTB maps in Reach just got... what's a good word for it, screwed? dongblained?
If the population wasn't absolutely piss poor, I probably would have still been playing this since Reach came out instead. Hopefully CEA makes the magic happen again.
BTB maps in Reach just got... what's a good word for it, screwed? dongblained?
thezerofire
Banned
I didn't see any confirmationHomeboyd said:
lybertyboy
Thinks the Evil Empire is just misunderstood.
Homeboyd said:
Sigh.
thezerofire
Banned
I should pay more attention to your avatarHomeboyd said:
A27_StarWolf
Banned
OuterWorldVoice said:
shut down
thezerofire
Banned
Yep pretty much exactly like Shadowrun. Which is what my friends and I thought was going to happen when the locations on the bottom left of the screen showed up.Booshka said:
I'm all in favor of more customization. I wouldn't even mind if we had more voting options in H4, like picking the map, gametype and weapon setups separately for each match.
As for radar, I'm perfectly happy going back to the Halo 1-3 version, but something like call-outs (even if they just designate a large area the enemy was in, like automated audio callouts) would be neat. I won't lose any sleep if we stick with the standard motion tracker though.
I also wouldn't mind a weapon-specific tracking method. For example, an otherwise normal or sub-par weapon could have a special tracker built into it, like an x-ray scanner that can see through walls (but not shoot through them, obviously). This assumes that Halo 4 expands on weapon utility, of course.
Out of curiosity, does anyone think that there will be Secondary Fire in Halo 4 given the mega-shot Pistol from the teaser trailer?
Fuck yeah, I just picked one up today.
As for radar, I'm perfectly happy going back to the Halo 1-3 version, but something like call-outs (even if they just designate a large area the enemy was in, like automated audio callouts) would be neat. I won't lose any sleep if we stick with the standard motion tracker though.
I also wouldn't mind a weapon-specific tracking method. For example, an otherwise normal or sub-par weapon could have a special tracker built into it, like an x-ray scanner that can see through walls (but not shoot through them, obviously). This assumes that Halo 4 expands on weapon utility, of course.
Out of curiosity, does anyone think that there will be Secondary Fire in Halo 4 given the mega-shot Pistol from the teaser trailer?
GhaleonEB said:
Fuck yeah, I just picked one up today.
StalkerUKCG said:
Aiming with just the left stick is fine if you're sniping someone far away, but you really need both sticks to properly aim at a moving enemy in a DMR fight with you.
In Gears, movement while aiming isn't as important since ADS reduces your movement to a turtle anyways, and people aren't jumping around and rolling while shooting like they do in Halo.
It's not an impossible feat but it's not optimal either.
Major Williams
Member
Lol. <3 Frankles. 1 word silences hours of thoughtOuterWorldVoice said:
Hypertrooper
Member
Maybe everyone got it, and they posted comment about the Bnet post?Homeboyd said:
Hydranockz
Member
You can't spell ONI without 'no'.GhaleonEB said:
This rabbit hole... how far does it go?
Current list for Halo 2 Vista on the 9th:
FyreWulff
wwm0nkey
Rickenslacker
Leviathan
Urban Reflex
Stephen L (Soundeffect)
Nikko B201
Total Sellout
anyone else interested? We about have enough do some 4v4 gametypes.
edit: hmm I'll look into maybe deploying a dedi so we can just have it auto rotate
FyreWulff
wwm0nkey
Rickenslacker
Leviathan
Urban Reflex
Stephen L (Soundeffect)
Nikko B201
Total Sellout
anyone else interested? We about have enough do some 4v4 gametypes.
edit: hmm I'll look into maybe deploying a dedi so we can just have it auto rotate
lybertyboy
Thinks the Evil Empire is just misunderstood.
FyreWulff said:
Please add Total Sellout to that list.
daedalius said:
I suppose you could be right, though it certainly looks like a Magnum, just with a big silencer-looking thing on the front and a stock-looking end.
I wasn't pointing to it as absolute proof, but rather just curious if people thought this was something 343 might experiment with.
Hypertrooper
Member
What are you going to do?FyreWulff said:
Hypertrooper said:
My current plan is to just rotate like we're playing matchmaking and depends on how many show up.
So stuff like 1 Flag, 1 Bomb, 2 Flag etc on appropriate maps. Maybe close out with some Zombies Foundation, but I don't want to spend the whole night playing a gametype that's already in Halo 3 and Reach...
Current short list if we end up with 4v4:
1 Flag on Zanzibar, Headlong, Relic, Terminal
1 Flag Fast on Ivory Tower and Lockout
KotH Tactics on Warlock
3 Plots on Turf
2 Flag Classic on Midship, Backwash and Beaver Creek
1 Bomb on Burial Mounds, Headlong, Terminal
2 Flag on Sanctuary
bigger maps like Waterworks and Coagulation if we have enough people
Hypertrooper
Member
It's okay. Still looking for *cough* achievement boosting group *cough*. I should go to a doctor very soon.FyreWulff said: