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Halo Reach Reveal Thread - Matchmaking/Multiplayer Details Revealed

Every new halo games has employed changes that I didn't appreciate, but I've always managed to find a way to still enjoy the game. You guys will get used to not being able to juggle the flag.
 
bobs99 ... said:
I didnt realize this at first but carrying the flag is now going to leave you pretty damn vulnerable, if you run into a enemy you wont even be able to drop the flag and escape or kill him if hes half decent.

Not sure if I like this. Bungie seem adamament to kill any potential awesome moments. We will never see someone dropping the flag, sniping the two attackers in the head at close range before casually taking the flag for the cap.
You know you're supposed to be a walking bullseye when holding the flag, right? Thats pretty much the whole point.

Leave the two snipes to your teammate who should be escorting you.

Dani said:
The AA/flag issues are great. Sprinting or jet-packing with the flag or oddball would have been game breaking I'd think.
game-breaking and retarded
 

Louis Wu

Member
Dani said:
Yeah, just noticed this, the video loads but I can't play it. Just checked older updates over the past few weeks. Same dealio there too.
HBO's Weekly Update Archive has all those videos in standard Flash format.
 

Not a Jellyfish

but I am a sheep
Self Induced said:
You know you're supposed to be a walking bullseye when holding the flag, right? Thats pretty much the whole point.

Leave the two snipes to your teammate who should be escorting you.


and retarded

This. I think without having juggling that CTF is going to rely on teamwork even more so and that is a godo thing.
 
And, as we’ve already noted, you won’t even have to fire up your web browser to tag your content and search for the sweet Beta stuff other players submit. It’s now all implemented right into the game’s menus.
:D
You’ll also run into a little somethin’ somethin’ we like to call Covie Slayer. Elite on Elite evasion action. Do yourself a favor and cast your vote in favor of this at least once. Trust me.
If playing as an Elite sounds as good as Bungie is making it out to be (and I"m sure it is) then I'll be spending a lot of time in Elite vs. Elite games.

On flag drop being taken out...I don't mind. It got pretty tiring to hear FLAG DROPPED FLAG TAKEN FLAG DROPPED FLAG TAKEN over and over again. I'm also glad to hear that you can't use armor abilities while carrying the flag: You're suppose to be a walking target, and I think being able to use the jet pack while carrying the flag would've been overdoing it.

Good update, Urk. Now I await GTTV.
 

Tashi

343i Lead Esports Producer
Deputy Moonman said:
Every new halo games has employed changes that I didn't appreciate, but I've always managed to find a way to still enjoy the game. You guys will get used to not being able to juggle the flag.

Of course but I think it's important to realize that flag juggling being removed is a pretty damn big gameplay change and I don't think it's for the better. However, I'll wait and play the game before I judge it.
 

Slightly Live

Dirty tag dodger
Louis Wu said:
HBO's Weekly Update Archive has all those videos in standard Flash format.

Pure win. Now to go back and check the past few weeks of sketch videos I've missed out on. Thanks for using the Flash format for your archives.

I think my Silverlight isn't happy with those embedded videos in the Bnet updates, but it plays rendered videos in other areas just fine.
 

Louis Wu

Member
Dani said:
Pure win. Now to go back and check the past few weeks of sketch videos I've missed out on. Thanks for using the Flash format for your archives.

I think my Silverlight isn't happy with those embedded videos in the Bnet updates, but it plays rendered videos in other areas just fine.
I have enough trouble with it myself to want a more universal format for local files. :lol

(Plus, Bungie doesn't allow remote linking to those vids anyway...)
 
Louis Wu said:
I have enough trouble with it myself to want a more universal format for local files. :lol

(Plus, Bungie doesn't allow remote linking to those vids anyway...)
Wu, did you see that 52 minute video that was on the Bungie Youtube Channel before it was taken off? Is that on HBO somewhere? I really want to see it.
 
So, a storm came by and killed my cable. Unless it fixes itself so much for watching the Invasion reveal live tonight on it.. :lol =/

Are there any live streams out there?

Anyways, I love the info in the update. I'm glad we wont have to listen to the whole flag dropped/taken thing, but its too bad thats gone entirely. What really makes me kinda sad is not carrying the flag when you engage armor abilities. I understand why though, but it will be cool if they can find a way to allow you to.

Also:
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That looks awesome. Have I mentioned how much I hope generator defense ships with the game?
 
Dax01 said:
Wu, did you see that 52 minute video that was on the Bungie Youtube Channel before it was taken off? Is that on HBO somewhere? I really want to see it.
Is that the Making of Halo 2 Doc? I just saw that in my LCE Special Edition Disc. :D
 

kylej

Banned
bobs99 ... said:
A lot of the stuff that makes Halo fun for me seems to be stuff that Bungie didnt intend and which Bungie hates. A toned down Sniper, a 5 shot kill precision weapon, and now this - I really cant wait till the beta to see if its still the Halo I know and love.

We'll see if people who are bad at Halo (Bungie employees) have managed to make a game that is fun for people who play above the level of a Staff Captain. The beta is going to be interesting, that's for sure.
 

Louis Wu

Member
Dax01 said:
Wu, did you see that 52 minute video that was on the Bungie Youtube Channel before it was taken off? Is that on HBO somewhere? I really want to see it.
It's not on HBO (yet) - but might be soon.

It's just the bulk of the Halo 2 LE bonus disc documentary - if you've seen that, you've seen what they aren't showing on YouTube.

I'm trying to get versions I can put on HBO.
 
I'm all for BR > AR and junk like that, but the idea of throwing the flag down and picking it back up just so that you can get a quicker capture always caught me as a cheap thing to do. Glad it is gone, not too mention the announcer won't have to constantly say flag taken/flag dropped every second. Good riddance I say.
 
Louis Wu said:
It's not on HBO (yet) - but might be soon.

It's just the bulk of the Halo 2 LE bonus disc documentary - if you've seen that, you've seen what they aren't showing on YouTube.

I'm trying to get versions I can put on HBO.
I don't have the Halo 2 LE, so I've never seen that documentary before. I was really looking forward to watching it.

Thanks, Wu.
 

urk

butthole fishhooking yes
kylej said:
We'll see if people who are bad at Halo (Bungie employees) have managed to make yet another game that is fun for people who play above the level of a Staff Captain. The beta is going to be interesting, that's for sure.

Fixed for you, Staff Captain Hyperbole. :)
 

ManCannon

Member
How is not being able to use armor abilities while carrying the flag any different than not being able to drive a Ghost or Hog while carrying the flag?

In the final game, you can create customs that allow flag carries to use abilities or drive vehicles if you so desire. Who knows, maybe that kind of gametype would take off online as well. (oh wait, that assumes the masses would even pick objective gametypes to play)

Bummer I couldn't scoop Urk today. Busy day. I did sneak a few new screenshots to Urk for the BWU though - along with 1.1GB of assets for next week's media embargo lifting.

Next week should be pretty crazy... a multimedia blow-out.

Edit: OMG check out Nobleactual.com - Tung just dropped a lil Friday treat.
 

soldat7

Member
Tashi0106 said:
Of course but I think it's important to realize that flag juggling being removed is a pretty damn big gameplay change and I don't think it's for the better. However, I'll wait and play the game before I judge it.

Agreed.
 

Domino Theory

Crystal Dynamics
ManCannon said:
How is not being able to use armor abilities while carrying the flag any different than not being able to drive a Ghost or Hog while carrying the flag?

In the final game, you can create customs that allow flag carries to use abilities or drive vehicles if you so desire. Who knows, maybe that kind of gametype would take off online as well. (oh wait, that assumes the masses would even pick objective gametypes to play)

Bummer I couldn't scoop Urk today. Busy day. I did sneak a few new screenshots to Urk for the BWU though - along with 1.1GB of assets for next week's media embargo lifting.

Next week should be pretty crazy... a multimedia blow-out.

Edit: OMG check out Nobleactual.com - Tung just dropped a lil Friday treat.

Damn, that's quite the large amount of MP footage....






Right? :D

Also, :O @ Jetpacking Assassination. The graphics and lighting on Powerhouse are insane!
 

Oozer3993

Member
ManCannon said:
How is not being able to use armor abilities while carrying the flag any different than not being able to drive a Ghost or Hog while carrying the flag?

In the final game, you can create customs that allow flag carries to use abilities or drive vehicles if you so desire. Who knows, maybe that kind of gametype would take off online as well. (oh wait, that assumes the masses would even pick objective gametypes to play)

Bummer I couldn't scoop Urk today. Busy day. I did sneak a few new screenshots to Urk for the BWU though - along with 1.1GB of assets for next week's media embargo lifting.

Next week should be pretty crazy... a multimedia blow-out.

Edit: OMG check out Nobleactual.com - Tung just dropped a lil Friday treat.

My pulse, it quickens.
 

Kibbles

Member
ManCannon said:
How is not being able to use armor abilities while carrying the flag any different than not being able to drive a Ghost or Hog while carrying the flag?

In the final game, you can create customs that allow flag carries to use abilities or drive vehicles if you so desire. Who knows, maybe that kind of gametype would take off online as well. (oh wait, that assumes the masses would even pick objective gametypes to play)

Bummer I couldn't scoop Urk today. Busy day. I did sneak a few new screenshots to Urk for the BWU though - along with 1.1GB of assets for next week's media embargo lifting.

Next week should be pretty crazy... a multimedia blow-out.

Edit: OMG check out Nobleactual.com - Tung just dropped a lil Friday treat.
*bows* Can't wait.
 

Thermite

Member
ManCannon said:
How is not being able to use armor abilities while carrying the flag any different than not being able to drive a Ghost or Hog while carrying the flag?

In the final game, you can create customs that allow flag carries to use abilities or drive vehicles if you so desire. Who knows, maybe that kind of gametype would take off online as well. (oh wait, that assumes the masses would even pick objective gametypes to play)

Bummer I couldn't scoop Urk today. Busy day. I did sneak a few new screenshots to Urk for the BWU though - along with 1.1GB of assets for next week's media embargo lifting.

Next week should be pretty crazy... a multimedia blow-out.

Edit: OMG check out Nobleactual.com - Tung just dropped a lil Friday treat.

HOLY SHIT! If there's that level of customization options for custom games, what awaits us in Forge!? ;O

And that air assassination.....JESUS! SO BADASS! I <3 Noble Actual so much.
 
ManCannon said:
How is not being able to use armor abilities while carrying the flag any different than not being able to drive a Ghost or Hog while carrying the flag?

In the final game, you can create customs that allow flag carries to use abilities or drive vehicles if you so desire. Who knows, maybe that kind of gametype would take off online as well. (oh wait, that assumes the masses would even pick objective gametypes to play)

Bummer I couldn't scoop Urk today. Busy day. I did sneak a few new screenshots to Urk for the BWU though - along with 1.1GB of assets for next week's media embargo lifting.

Next week should be pretty crazy... a multimedia blow-out.

Edit: OMG check out Nobleactual.com - Tung just dropped a lil Friday treat.

I'm not upset about not being able to carry the flag while using an ability, I figured as much. On the flip side, with armor abilities replacing equipment, I was curious if it would be worked in that you can use the abilities, just with repercussions. (Slower sprint and jetpack, less invisible invis..armor lock would be the more difficult one) I thought there may be "capture the flag PRO" with armor abilities dropping the flag and then maybe an alternative where they could be used. Either way, I dont mind too much.

And OMG at the midair assassination.. That looks so freaking awesome. :D
 
ManCannon said:
How is not being able to use armor abilities while carrying the flag any different than not being able to drive a Ghost or Hog while carrying the flag?
You bring up a very good point here sir. But just for the sake of argument, you could still pick up power ups and use equipment when running with the flag, which is basically what the armor abilities are.
 

kylej

Banned
urk said:
Fixed for you, Staff Captain Hyperbole. :)

The Bungie studio has the highest concentration of BK per square foot in America. When you guys have journalists in the studio I'm surprised everything doesn't implode like some sort of black hole of anti-donging. Obviously the answer to this problem is to hire Tom Taylor and make him lead designer of Reach.
 

Roche

Member
kylej said:
Obviously the answer to this problem is to hire Tom Taylor and make him lead designer of Reach.

If you did that then any time anyone picks up Rockets, Sniper and Overshield they'd instantly die.
 

rac

Banned
kylej said:
The Bungie studio has the highest concentration of BK per square foot in America. When you guys have journalists in the studio I'm surprised everything doesn't implode like some sort of black hole of anti-donging. Obviously the answer to this problem is to hire Tom Taylor and make him lead designer of Reach.
They should have let halogaf play the alpha and change everything to our likings.
The definitive halo made for the people who post too much about halo.
 

feel

Member
Awesome update as usual! :D

I actually prefer no juggle speed boost, and no AA use while flag carrying. Good stuff Bungie.

Is there a thread on the MLG site about this yet?? Hilarious river of tears that place must be right about now. :lol

One question, what are the actual playlists? Is it just four major ones that contain every mode: FFA, TEAM GAMES, INVASION, NT1, or are there multiple ones separating for example slayer/slayer pro, from flag games. If you're allowed, could you clarify a bit on that urk/brian?


BTW, the nobleactual thing is not working for me, and I have the latest quicktime. HALP :(
 

rac

Banned
Letters said:
Awesome update as usual! :D

I actually prefer no juggle speed boost, and no AA use while flag carrying. Good stuff Bungie.

Is there a thread on the MLG site about this yet?? Hilarious river of tears that place must be right about now. :lol

One question, what are the actual playlists? Is it just four major ones that contain every mode: FFA, TEAM GAMES, INVASION, NT1, or are there multiple ones separating for example slayer?slayer pro, from flag games. If you're allowed, could you clarify a bit on that urk/brian?


BTW, the nobleactual thing is not working for me, and I have the latest quicktime. HALP :(
Right click save link as.
 

Tashi

343i Lead Esports Producer
kylej said:
The Bungie studio has the highest concentration of BK per square foot in America. When you guys have journalists in the studio I'm surprised everything doesn't implode like some sort of black hole of anti-donging. Obviously the answer to this problem is to hire Tom Taylor and make him lead designer of Reach.


:lol :lol :lol

Also, thanks for the update Brian.

InvincableAgent said:
There you go, Tashi. Have fun in customs!

He said flag holding while using AA's and Vehicles. I didn't see anything about player trait recovery time after dropping flag.
 

Slightly Live

Dirty tag dodger
rac said:
They should have let halogaf play the alpha and change everything to our likings.

"Bring back the BR"
"Nerf the BR"
"Take out the BR again"
"Nerf the Laser"
"Nerf the Laser more"
"Take out the Laser"
"Beef up the AR"
"Tone down the AR"
"Remove the AR"
"Where's my triple wielding Needlers?"
"Bring back equipment"
"Bring back only some equipment"
"Beef up the Sniper"
"Remove the Sniper"
"Bring back that damm Sniper and don't ever consider removing it ever again"
"Is Shishka fired yet?"
"Why did we fire Shishka, OMG!?"
"No, the mongoose won't have added jet thrusters"
"A teabag button, that's a great idea!"
"Give the shotgun some long range, skill based, secondary fire"
 

urk

butthole fishhooking yes
kylej said:
The Bungie studio has the highest concentration of BK per square foot in America. When you guys have journalists in the studio I'm surprised everything doesn't implode like some sort of black hole of anti-donging. Obviously the answer to this problem is to hire Tom Taylor and make him lead designer of Reach.
Is he as pro-dong as you are?
 
What an awesome WU... I literally laughed out loud at the HEADHUNTER PART:lol.

I am giddy like a school kid at this point, Reach cannot come soon enough.

Also that midair assassination looks amazing, there is so much new stuff jammed into this game... I cannot believe it.

I am hoping when I wake up tomorrow there is some HD videos of MP gameplay from GTtv...
 

GhaleonEB

Member
Awesome update is awesome. I still wish we had player counts for the playlists, though. I've got an OP to finish writing! :p

Theater, Screenshots and file sharing being in the Beta was a fuck-awesome bit of news. And that air-to-air assassination...good lord. :D

Sounds like next week is going to be supremely epic.

Invasion footage tonight! w00t!
 

feel

Member
rac said:
Right click save link as.
I did, downloaded it 3 times already, keeps giving me an error.

Devin Olsen said:
Also that midair assassination looks amazing..
GhaleonEB said:
And that air-to-air assassination...good lord. :D
electricpirate said:
Qtvr assaination on nom nom :D
I wanna see!! I wanna see!! :(


Wait, maybe I can make a gif out of the mov file.


edit- SUCCESS!!!! It's, it's, it's beauuuutiful. :D :D

10mb gif incoming
 
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