• Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.

HaloGAF |OT: Anniversary| So fades the great harvest of our betrayal.

blamite

Member
Sums up my thoughts. This is the shit that pisses me off with preorders. You should not lock out skulls to people based on where they fucking preorder the goddamn game. At least though it's only for a limited time. Still doesn't make it any less shitty though.

Yep, It sucks that these things keep getting spread out across multiple retailers. I can deal with a single bonus for all retailers, or even a bonus exclusive to one retailer (although I'd still be kind of pissed about it) but spreading a million things to a million different stores is just a shitty thing to do.

Sadly I'm betting Destiny is gonna do the same exact thing (only Gamestop's bonus is announced though):

PjzmeiU.jpg


At least it seems like the trend is shifting to timed exclusives, if MCC and Destiny are any indication, but the things had still better be free when they're eventually released to the public.
 
This might be the single most emblematic post of everything wrong with the modern consumer and the industry built around their ignorance.

I still can't believe the best helmet in Halo 4 was locked behind a fucking Pre-Order DLC and I was never able to receive it.

#NeverForget


Like... seriously this is the only helmet I had any interest in, and, in my opinion, the only helmet with a good sense of design.
 

ElRenoRaven

Member
Yep, It sucks that these things keep getting spread out across multiple retailers. I can deal with a single bonus for all retailers, or even a bonus exclusive to one retailer (although I'd still be kind of pissed about it) but spreading a million things to a million different stores is just a shitty thing to do.

Sadly I'm betting Destiny is gonna do the same exact thing (only Gamestop's bonus is announced though):

PjzmeiU.jpg


At least it seems like the trend is shifting to timed exclusives, if MCC and Destiny are any indication, but the things had still better be free when they're eventually released to the public.

Yup. I'd say Destiny is a bit worse though. It has console exclusive content that's got a chance to be exclusive for about a year. This whole exclusive shit to retailers and consoles stuff has to stop. It's going to do nothing but hurt the industry in the long run because eventually it's going to turn enough people off to buying or at least preordering these games that do it. Course even though they did it I still love Bungie. I still think it sucks though. Did when other publishers/developers have done it and still think it sucks now.
 

Dongs Macabre

aka Daedalos42
How are the skulls going to work? Will they be for H2A, 3 and 4 only? Bandanna was in CEA, so I wonder if they'll remove it just so it can be DLC.
 
I still can't believe the best helmet in Halo 4 was locked behind a fucking Pre-Order DLC and I was never able to receive it.

#NeverForget



Like... seriously this is the only helmet I had any interest in, and, in my opinion, the only helmet with a good sense of design.

There's no way the appeal of this helmet to you is somehow tied to your inability to get it, especially since you are so well known for rational thinking and clear-headedness when it comes to intangible products.
 
There's no way the appeal of this helmet to you is somehow tied to your inability to get it, especially since you are so well known for rational thinking and clear-headedness when it comes to intangible products.
Nah, It reminded me of the Rouge helmet (my favorite helmet) from Halo 3 and I always wanted it, just never managed to preorder from BestBuy to get it.
 

ElRenoRaven

Member
Well I'm getting my mcc digitally so I guess I get no skulls?

Not unless MS gets on that whole pre-loading bandwagon before then and has pre-orders. I myself am buying 2 copies. One physical for collecting purposes then one Digital so I don't have to keep my disc in the drive. lol

It's rare I do that but TMCC is worth it I think.
 

II SHABUTIE II

Neo Member
Not unless MS gets on that whole pre-loading bandwagon before then and has pre-orders. I myself am buying 2 copies. One physical for collecting purposes then one Digital so I don't have to keep my disc in the drive. lol

It's rare I do that but TMCC is worth it I think.

In time, I know I'm going to end up with tons of copies of TMMC. If I have extra money on the release date, I'll probably also get a digital copy too. I know it's going to be the only game played for at least a good month.
 

Omni

Member
Not unless MS gets on that whole pre-loading bandwagon before then and has pre-orders. I myself am buying 2 copies. One physical for collecting purposes then one Digital so I don't have to keep my disc in the drive. lol

It's rare I do that but TMCC is worth it I think.

Does anyone know if you can install a physical copy to your HDD so you can buy the game digitally and not have to download on the Xbone?

I'm all for no discs. And I'm willing to double dip. But I don't have the bandwidth to download 50GB.
 
Does anyone know if you can install a physical copy to your HDD so you can buy the game digitally and not have to download on the Xbone?

I'm all for no discs. And I'm willing to double dip. But I don't have the bandwidth to download 50GB.

Yes, if you have the game on your hard drive and purchase from the Xbox you won't have to download it.
 

Obscured

Member
Here's the Karl line of thinking, so hear me out. Why not just have every skull available to everyone from the get-go? This way you aren't fucking over people who don't buy the game from 3 different fucking stores or aren't from the US.

Yup. I'd say Destiny is a bit worse though. It has console exclusive content that's got a chance to be exclusive for about a year. This whole exclusive shit to retailers and consoles stuff has to stop. It's going to do nothing but hurt the industry in the long run because eventually it's going to turn enough people off to buying or at least preordering these games that do it. Course even though they did it I still love Bungie. I still think it sucks though. Did when other publishers/developers have done it and still think it sucks now.

These retail partners really are a detriment. The biggest issue is that most often these exclusives are throwaway items and create a perception that the base product is lacking. There must be a lot of pull in the retail channel for this kind of thing to keep happening.

They should have kept MC in cyro for at least 50 years.

I wished they had taken this approach. Forerunners are back, but you don't know why. Cortana long gone due to rampancy (maybe she self destructs to prevent it or found some kind if forerunner containment doohickey on the forerunner structure they crash on but leaves pre recorded messages to MC.

They could then have this 50 (or even 150) year period - where humanity rebuilds, the covenant gets more fleshed out, humanity encounters forerunners - that could be explored in fiction and game spin offs. And you don't have to drive a cool forerunner artifact that you only barely get to explore into the sun.

As it is the timing just feels off, an example being Thorne more torn up about a city versus the near extinction of humanity.

amXeVDX_460sa_v1.gif


No seriously, where is your MS couta for posting

Where is this from? It kind of pisses me off that someone would treat someone else this way. Especially disturbing is the head push at the end. I'm hoping it is from a film and not someone's home movie.
 
Not unless MS gets on that whole pre-loading bandwagon before then and has pre-orders. I myself am buying 2 copies. One physical for collecting purposes then one Digital so I don't have to keep my disc in the drive. lol

It's rare I do that but TMCC is worth it I think.

I respect your dedication I just wish I could afford an extra digital copy but I have to have it retail, it's just tradition with all my halo games. Maybe if If there's that rare discount in the future.
 

Nirvana

Member
Preorder bonuses are a pain for me, because I've always been a completionist, and it means that I can never get certain items without preordering from 3 different places. I don't really care for skulls that much, because I don't think they really add anything - especially the Bandana skull which would just make the game horribly boring, like playing Doom with iddqd on all the time.

Hopefully they keep the skulls that were hidden Halo 2, but change the fact that when your Xbox shuts off, they're gone. My 360 had some weird setting on where it shuts down after being inactive for a certain period of time, so I lost the Envy skull and all of my progress from Outskirts - Regret on Legendary. Was really hoping to use the Envy skull for Gravemind/High Charity, since those levels are usually a pain because I generally don't get the skull on my Legendary runs, but no dice :(

EDIT: Does Ogre 2 have consistent streaming times, or did he just play some Halo as a one off recently?
 

-Ryn

Banned
Well he got his evolution forcefully accelerated so that might count. The only thing I can thing of is "I don't like instrumentality " which seems funny to me.
On reflection, there's a lot of similarities between Evangelion and Halo. If it all ends with some kind of mix between the Halo theme and
Komm, susser Tod
as everyone is turned into kool-aid, I probably
wouldn't mind at all. Seems like a perfect way to end the series at this point.

OT but I recently watched the Rebuild movies and this song is really nice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apLWOel68j8
Did you watch Dub or Sub? Either way what did you think? Excited for the 4th movie?

Forerunner Design
Was anyone else hoping the Forerunners would look more like the ones from Legends? I thought the design was great and mysterious. It was also kinda disappointing how early on they revealed what the Didactic looked like.

In regards to Halo 4's design in general, I don't really mind some of the floaty bits but the Tron lines are WAY to prominent in everything. Not everything that is advanced has to be glowy. While I think some of the design for 4 was pretty cool I think it would have been nice if it was intermixed with with some designs from past Halo games. Something like this
ENS_MPv01.jpg

would've been cool to see. It looks beautiful and intriguing. Having that mixed with some of the things we see in Halo 4 would've been really awesome.

Everything also looked too pristine and well kept for ancient architecture. If they had made it so that there were areas that weren't well kept or overgrown and then made the inside more like what we see throughout the game I feel that would have had a better contrast. I'm really interested to see what they do with Halo 2's ancient ruins.

SKULLS
Retailer specific preorders are ridiculous. I'm fine with one set across all retailers but spreading them out is just asinine. I think this one came from Microsoft though.

FINISH HIM!
 

Nirvana

Member
Yeah unfortunately I'm working when its on, but its a really interesting run with some nice tricks.

OT Why is Cosmo running Castlevania 64 again, thought he was done after he got both WR? Unless he's just doing Reinhart now.


Halo

EDIT: CE run is on at 27/6/2014 at 8:05:51 am, for anyone interested.
 

FyreWulff

Member
At most, the skull bonuses should be EARLY unlocks, and everyone can still get the skulls their own way.

Since they forced you to get the pre-order skull with CEA originally, I just threw out the code sheet and never redeemed it. Also, why not make CEA's skull available to everyone, then maybe people could actually trust the skulls are coming later.


edit: In addition, Johnson in ODST and the Reach gamestop armor should become open downloads. Many people that pre-ordered ODST didn't even get him due to Gamestops running out of cards / not giving cards.
 
At most, the skull bonuses should be EARLY unlocks, and everyone can still get the skulls their own way.

Since they forced you to get the pre-order skull with CEA originally, I just threw out the code sheet and never redeemed it. Also, why not make CEA's skull available to everyone, then maybe people could actually trust the skulls are coming later.

Isn't Sgt Johnson still locked for Odst players?
 

Nirvana

Member
Posting in the MCC thread made me realise how horrible the Cage was. Worst Halo map ever made by a long margin. I'd rather play on Backwash when it was broken thanks.
 

Nirvana

Member
Isn't Sgt Johnson still locked for Odst players?

I'm currently playing through all the games' campaigns on Legendary and realised that my ODST disc got cracked and I got rid of it. Which means I lost Johnson :(

How cheap can you pick up ODST these days? Like...$3?


EDIT: Nvm found it lol. I think I bought it again when I broke it.
 
You sir, are a gentleman. I didn't even know about Sgt. Johnson. Too bad.

It would be cool if Buck stepped in as his replacement.
Well... Johnson is dead.

And Buck is... I dunno about Buck. Man I want Nathan Fillion back. :( Wasn't Nathan Fillion apparently the voice for the Halo 5 trailer? Hope that means Buck and the squad are returning.

BAM! Said the lady.
 

TheOddOne

Member
- Eurogamer: First playable games announced for EGX London
The organisers of EGX London 2014 have announced the first of many games that will be playable at the UK's biggest gaming in just a few months' time, including titles from Microsoft, EA, Activision and a host of indies.

Playable games confirmed so far, organised by developer/publisher:
Microsoft Studios - Fable Legends, Forza Horizon 2, Halo: The Master Chief Collection, Project Spark, Sunset Overdrive
 

belushy

Banned
It is mentioned that Certain Affinity is working on MP for H2A. Do they also have a major part working in the ports of 1 through 4?

edit: ^ I hope we see some Halo 3. However, I feel like all we will see up to release(conference reveals wise) will be H2A related.
 

FyreWulff

Member
It is mentioned that Certain Affinity is working on MP for H2A. Do they also have a major part working in the ports of 1 through 4?

edit: ^ I hope we see some Halo 3. However, I feel like all we will see up to release(conference reveals wise) will be H2A related.

Sabre is doing CEAO and H2A
Certain Affinity is doing the H2A maps
Halo 3 and Halo 4 ports are being done by Ruffian
 

Nirvana

Member
I'm not sure what the point of making Cortana 'lost' again at the end of Halo 4 was to be honest. I mean, they have to bring her back in some way, because it's not Halo without her (and people will not be happy about it, more to the point) so why essentially do what they did at the end of Halo 2 again? I hope we don't have a repeat performance of Halo 3 where we have to rescue her again.

Also the Didact has to be back next time, I'm assuming, and surely this is all going to culminate in the flood returning so he can enact his plan to get rid of them (rather than the Librarian's of activating Halo). It's going to get pretty confusing when you have Covenant separatists, Covenant loyalists (Brutes etc.), Covenant crazy Elites who want to get Forerunner tech, Prometheans, the UNSC and the Flood. Would definitely be cool though.

Was there ever an explanation of how the flood were released on Delta Halo by the way? Because they were released on Installation 04 by the Covenant and then Gravemind is just chilling on Delta Halo when you rock up. Did they just take Covenant ships there, or did they get released from the containment areas somehow as well?

Either way, it would seem that the Flood were contained on more than one Installation, and I can't see it being likely that Gravemind brought every single Flood spore onto High Charity with him when he got exploded in Halo 3. This means that there are still 6 Halos full of Flood (since 04 and 04b were destroyed), but without the Ark can they even all be activated? Jesus...the story was convoluted enough before the Forerunner developments in recent books and Halo 4.
 
Top Bottom