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Has there been a jump in quality from 1 game to direct sequel such as mass effect 1 to 2?
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Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Upgrade in terms of production values, downgrade in terms of play-ability.
Hrk69
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Git gud
diffusionx
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On Saturn, the VF1 port to VF2 port
Otherwise, SMB/LL->SMB3
Warcraft -> Warcraft 2
Otherwise, SMB/LL->SMB3
Warcraft -> Warcraft 2
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Sooner
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That's an example of biggest drop off. FF8 is terrible.
StereoVsn
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And story wise RDR1 was better I feel.
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The Cockatrice
I'm retarded?
There used to be quite a lot of them. Less so nowadays. I mean Ragnarok on paper is better than the previous one and so is Spider-Man 2, but ultimately the majority will agree that the og's are the best and these are just two recent examples. In the past tho? A LOT. Warcraft 1-2-3, Starcraft 1-2, Witcher 1-2-3, Dishonored 1-2, Divinity Original Sin 1-2, Baldurs Gate, Pathfinder, Payday, Nioh, Xcom, Talos Principle, Doom games, Batman Arkham games, Hitman, etc.
Gambit2483
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Yes.
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TerribleAtThisGame
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I was gonna say the jump to Metroid Prime but not a direct number sequel. Shit blew me away to see Metroid like that back then.
Werewolf Jones
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Internet has done damage beyond repair for this games reputation when it's better than VII. lmao.
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TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Baldurs Gate 2 is much better than 1.
Super Mario Bros 3 is much better than 2.
Starfox 64 is much better than the previous game.
And Mass Effect 2 is more of a sidegrade imo. I'm currently playing it and sure, game's much more polished, plays better and has more budget than the previous game. But the overall story is worse, and there's less RPGing and more shooting. Still a very, very good game and probably my favorite in the franchise but yeah, not 100% and upgrade.
Super Mario Bros 3 is much better than 2.
Starfox 64 is much better than the previous game.
And Mass Effect 2 is more of a sidegrade imo. I'm currently playing it and sure, game's much more polished, plays better and has more budget than the previous game. But the overall story is worse, and there's less RPGing and more shooting. Still a very, very good game and probably my favorite in the franchise but yeah, not 100% and upgrade.
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ssringo
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Metroid to Metroid II and again to Super Metroid.
Metroid is a classic but suffers from simplistic/annoying mechanics, basic gameplay controls and everything looking the same making navigation more confusing than it had to be. Starting at 30 hp was a fun middle finger! (*if you're unaware the starting max hp is 99) It had some nice chiptunes though.
Metroid II is a less appreciated classic due to being on the Game Boy. It tightened up the gameplay and added new mechanics but it too suffered from areas looking the same and confusing navigation which wasn't helped by it being way zoomed in due to the handheld's (lack of) power. The chiptunes, while not bad, also suffered from the handheld's sound capabilities. I personally find Game Boy sounds very shrill and annoying.
Super Metroid stepped up the game in every way possible. Fantastic pixel art and animations, far superior controls (Samus can FUCKING CROUCH AND AIM DIAGONALLY!) and the music is just sublime.
Metroid is a classic but suffers from simplistic/annoying mechanics, basic gameplay controls and everything looking the same making navigation more confusing than it had to be. Starting at 30 hp was a fun middle finger! (*if you're unaware the starting max hp is 99) It had some nice chiptunes though.
Metroid II is a less appreciated classic due to being on the Game Boy. It tightened up the gameplay and added new mechanics but it too suffered from areas looking the same and confusing navigation which wasn't helped by it being way zoomed in due to the handheld's (lack of) power. The chiptunes, while not bad, also suffered from the handheld's sound capabilities. I personally find Game Boy sounds very shrill and annoying.
Super Metroid stepped up the game in every way possible. Fantastic pixel art and animations, far superior controls (Samus can FUCKING CROUCH AND AIM DIAGONALLY!) and the music is just sublime.
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Came to basically post this. Mass Effect 2 was amazing the first time I played it. But on subsequent playthroughs of the trilogy its by far the weakest game. It's just filler to get to ME3.
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asdasdasdbb
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Street Fighter is definitely the winner. The first game is almost like a proof of concept compared to SF2.
LectureMaster
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Hmm guys, guess we kinda blind to the recent obvious.
literally nobody mentions Helldivers to Helldivers II?
literally nobody mentions Helldivers to Helldivers II?
Sooner
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What?
I assume you mean IV, but that's still not 2 in anything beyond a localized name.
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DKPOWPOW
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Resident Evil 1 to Resident Evil 2 was a big jump. Resident Evil Zero to Resident Evil 4 was a massive jump.
Zelda: Majora's Mask to Zelda: Wind Waker was huge leap as well. Skyward Sword to Breath of the Wild was also huge.
GTA2 to GTA3 was a gigantic leap forward.
MGS1 to MGS2 was a massive jump forward.
Smash Bros. 64 to Smash Bros. Melee was nuts.
Zelda: Majora's Mask to Zelda: Wind Waker was huge leap as well. Skyward Sword to Breath of the Wild was also huge.
GTA2 to GTA3 was a gigantic leap forward.
MGS1 to MGS2 was a massive jump forward.
Smash Bros. 64 to Smash Bros. Melee was nuts.
Brigandier
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Tekken 1 to Tekken 2 was big but Tekken 2 to Tekken 3 was outrageous.... Namco were amazing in the PS1 PS2 era.
Gambit2483
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This is kind of a loophole considering Metroid 2 was a "demake" and "Metroid 3" was on hardware twice (or thrice) as powerful as Metroid 2....well played.
Radical_3d
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Heresy! Superior Hennig direction vs lazy Druckmann scribbles.
drotahorror
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Prototype 1 to 2. Very big upgrade
Zannegan
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So... moving in the same direction as Mass Effect? =P
Okay, so it's not that bad, but what gains ME2 made came at the cost of the first's depth and complexity. It was so streamlined and dumbed down to appeal to the lowest common denominator. It basically ditched its RPG trappings to lean into bog standard third person cover shooting.
Zannegan
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Gameplay-wise, for sure--especially in terms of the upgrade trees--but in terms of characters, storytelling, and just overall tone? I agree 2 is better, but it wasn't an unmixed upgrade.
Pasta la Vista
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Soul Calibur 2, seriously it's the peak of the series. Just need a definitive edition ith Link, Spawn and Heihachi.
TGO
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MGS2 not only had better AI soldiers and a lot of unique ones to boot with their own personalities, it also had a lot more interactions with the game world (fucking ice cubes would melt if you knocked them out the glass) and different events happening in multiple playthoughs
While not completely gone, MGS3 has about 20% of that in comparison, also dropped from 60fps to 30fps.
Graphically it improved, but a lot was striped from MGS2.
Kinda a downgrade imo
Men_in_Boxes
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GTAII to GTAIII
Gambit2483
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Kojima traded detail for scope and scale with MGS3...which featured many many more environments, settings, equipment/weapons, combat options, etc. for the fps, details and nuance of MGS2.
That said MGS3 still had its fair share of Easter eggs and hidden details (esp with the camera and codec)
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EverydayBeast
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COD3 to COD4 is like night and day, the way you conduct your weapon, the movement, behind the scenes COD4 is hugely improved from previous entries.
vaibhavpisal
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Jeez dude.
Mass Effect 2 is a downgrade over part 1.
Turning a rpg system with potential into a cover shooter isn’t an upgrade.
Mass Effect 2 is a downgrade over part 1.
Turning a rpg system with potential into a cover shooter isn’t an upgrade.
fart town usa
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ME1 is the personal favorite of many. myself included. I actually put some hours into the PS3 version a few weeks back. Amazing game.
a multicultural team of v
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When the tutorial 5 minutes into the game explained how to reload a magazine I knew right there the game was going to be a huge disappointment.
Hollowpoint5557
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Wave Race on gameboy to Wave Race 64
Resident Evil 3 to Resident Evil 4
Halo to Halo 2
Mario 2 to Super Mario Brothers 3
Zelda 2 to Link to the Past
Titanfall 1 to Titanfall 2
Diablo 1 to Diablo 2
Far Cry to to Far Cry 3
Super Mario Kart to Mario Kart 64
Resident Evil 3 to Resident Evil 4
Halo to Halo 2
Mario 2 to Super Mario Brothers 3
Zelda 2 to Link to the Past
Titanfall 1 to Titanfall 2
Diablo 1 to Diablo 2
Far Cry to to Far Cry 3
Super Mario Kart to Mario Kart 64
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jonnyXx
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I remember that after playing Uncharted I had no interest in playing the upcoming Uncharted 2 but my local game store owner convinced me to get it because he thought it was going to be GOTY.
He was right.
SlimySnake
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Uncharted 1 to Uncharted 2
AC1 to AC2
Motorstorm 1 to Motorstorm 2
RE3/Code Veronica to RE4
We just dont get those leaps anymore because devs are content with copy pasta sequels that take 5 years to make.
AC1 to AC2
Motorstorm 1 to Motorstorm 2
RE3/Code Veronica to RE4
We just dont get those leaps anymore because devs are content with copy pasta sequels that take 5 years to make.
Kings Field
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Gears of War 1 to Gears of War 2. The multiplayer was far better in 2 despite 1 being a sleeper hit and just thrown together. In my opinion Gears 2 was peak despite the bugs and glitches.
