Hatred - Reveal & Gameplay Trailer

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Looks all right, probably fun for like an hour or so but I can see it getting old quick. Got nothing against the premise of killing lots of civilians but the intro was really cheesy and quite lame. He also kept putting things into the same pocket. Not a fan of the zoomed in executions, would look better all isometric.

All in all it's nothing groundbreaking and I will probably not buy it, but then again I could never get into Hotline Miami either.
 
That looks like poorly-written trash, with a pay-attention-to-me, look-how-naughty-i-am hook. No thanks.
 
Plot Twist: Fox News and Jack Thompson teamed up to develop this game so that they could report about it.

Makes you think, huh? #Followthemoney
 
jcm said:
That looks like poorly-written trash, with a pay-attention-to-me, look-how-naughty-i-am hook. No thanks.
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to be honest, the writing wasn't too bad. I'm assuming any person who would go on "genocide of the world" would have a monologue along those lines. Voice acting was pretty good to.
 
Just going by the trailer, this seems like one of those games you'd see on CSI or NCIS where they are hunting a h4cker g4merz who is angry at the world so he hides in "CYBER SPACE H4x0rland."

Wonder what more info comes out of it honestly but:

The question you may ask is: why do they do this? These days, when a lot of games are heading to be polite, colorful, politically correct and trying to be some kind of higher art, rather than just an entertainment – we wanted to create something against trends.
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Really...?
 
-MD- said:
Wonder what it'll cost, $20-30?
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$20 sounds good to me. I'd pay $30 if I knew it had worthwhile content though.

Mullah88 said:
Is it funded by isis? Had to ask
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Was Uncharted funded by ISIS? I killed over 1,000 human beings in my last playthrough of Uncharted 2 but I guess Hatred is worse because it has no color and the guy looks like he listens to black metal and wears a trench coat?
 
Looks super fucked up and I have no interest in playing it, that's about where my personal thoughts on this game end.

But god help the industry if there's another mass shooting and this game is found on the perp's computer. When the media gets a hold of that and put this game, that trailer, and how everything within it is contextualized next to the tragedy, the public is not going to listen to any response the industry comes up with, no matter how well thought out and said. This game is a ticking bomb that has the potential to drag down every other game with a rating above T with it.
 
Ill play this. Looks awesome.

And lol at everyone thinking this is too much. You have been killing people for stupid reasons in videogames forever, do you really need a reason at this point?
 
I think it's too hard to tell from just this trailer, and probably intentionally so. But I think there's probably two ways this can go:

If it's a game where you shoot civilians, and then the cops come or there's a wanted level mechanic, and then you're shooting people who are shooting back and you gotta make it to the exit or something... then okay, sounds like a video game.

If it's just a top down version of "no russian" with no goal other then killing innocent civilians who don't fight back and just run away and scream for mercy... then it's just a distasteful money grab thst goes too far and uhh no thanks.
 
whyman said:
Ill play this. Looks awesome.

And lol at everyone thinking this is too much. You have been killing people for stupid reasons in videogames forever, do you really need a reason at this point?
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Yeah but he said he was all mad and full of hate bro, that just crossed the line.

Ketch said:
If it's just a top down version of "no russian" with no goal other then killing innocent civilians .
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If it's this then I'll lose interest, I want an actual game. This looks like Manhunt as a top down shooter.
 
Bloodrage said:
$20 sounds good to me. I'd pay $30 if I knew it had worthwhile content though.


Was Uncharted funded by ISIS? I killed over 1,000 human beings in my last playthrough of Uncharted 2 but I guess Hatred is worse because it has no color and the guy looks like he listens to black metal and wears a trench coat?
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I don't know maybe it was, who knows right? I mean what does drake do in between treasure hunts? All those treasures he steals what does he do with it? Connect the dots my friend


why so serious?
 
So while the trailer didnt disturb me at all, it seems very stupid to put money towards a game where the main character is angry because he is angry. I'm not seeing the point.
 
whyman said:
Ill play this. Looks awesome.

And lol at everyone thinking this is too much. You have been killing people for stupid reasons in videogames forever, do you really need a reason at this point?
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Nazi's, Demons,Terrorists, Monsters, Aliens..

I don't know that's pretty clear vs. MY GENOCIDE begins before putting a gun in a woman mouth begging for her life and pulling the trigger.
 
I'm all for this. One of the best uses for games is working through emotions and urges that you would otherwise take out in less healthy ways. Give the troubled high school/college kids a virtual outlet, and maybe a few of them wont decide to shoot up their school. Maybe after a few hours, they wont like that feeling inside them anymore, or maybe they'll just feel better.
 
whyman said:
And lol at everyone thinking this is too much. You have been killing people for stupid reasons in videogames forever, do you really need a reason at this point?
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It's about context. Nathan Drake isn't blasting some old man's head away with a shotgun, then turning around and sticking a gun in a woman's mouth and blowing her away. Nathan Darke is a genocide machine, we all know that, and it's sort of fucked up when you think about it, but you have to go out of your way to actually put yourself in that mindset and think about it... That's not the case here. This game is specifically portraying a homicidal "I hate the world everyone needs to die" sociopath in line with Columbine or the Aurora shooters and rewarding it, wearing it proudly. That's why people think it goes too far.
 
Pudge said:
I'm all for this. One of the best uses for games is working through emotions and urges that you would otherwise take out in less healthy ways. Give the troubled high school/college kids a virtual outlet, and maybe a few of them wont decide to shoot up their school. Maybe after a few hours, they wont like that feeling inside them anymore, or maybe they'll just feel better.
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Uh, no. No. No.
This is not how this should be viewed. The second someone plays this and gets their urges affirmed, this will be hell in media. I don't think watching depictions of mass violence makes someone less violent generally?
 
Huh.

You know, this doesn't really seem that much different from just going on a rampage killing civilians in, say, a GTA game aside from the civilians' reactions (begging for their lives is something that they should probably actually be doing in a GTA game, come to think of it). Annnd... it'll probably be about as fun, which is to say you'll get tired of it after an hour or two.

Not really much to say here. I think some folks are overreacting to it. Certainly, the premise is kind of gross, but it's not like this is the first time you'll be able to just run around shooting and stabbing random innocent people.
 
Pudge said:
I'm all for this. One of the best uses for games is working through emotions and urges that you would otherwise take out in less healthy ways. Give the troubled high school/college kids a virtual outlet, and maybe a few of them wont decide to shoot up their school. Maybe after a few hours, they wont like that feeling inside them anymore, or maybe they'll just feel better.
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Maybe this will fuel there rage more?
 
Mullah88 said:
Maybe this will fuel there rage more?
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That's not what science says. Crime rates are down all around because people are more pacified by their entertainment. The kids who would be out shooting each other are now shooting people in CoD. It's not 100%, and there will always be insane people that you can't help, but giving someone who is driven to do something terrible a virtual outlet to do that thing instead of inflicting it on the real world is a good thing.
 
Watch out guys, these developers are so hardcore, they are going against them trends of political correctness, this will shake the gaming undistry to it's very core with it's edgyness and risque approach, pack it up guys this is the realest entertainment. Amazing features such as shooting babies in the face, mutilating civillians and more, a truly definitive next gen experience with next gen grefix, next gen gameplay and next generation storytelling extraordinaire, a natural evolution of the medium, a culmination of everything mankind has been striving for.

nevermind trying an actual thoughtful moral mind game ala Nier.

I'm not revolted or against the existence of this crap, It just has lame stamped all over it
 
I think I understand the argument--whereas games like GTA, and even Postal (I'm pretty sure it's possible to finish Postal 2 without hurting anyone though it's really fucking difficult to do.) have the option of hurting innocents as a choice--this game, much like No Russian is having people hurt innocents as a mandatory thing. No way around it. That's the point of the game. The fact that the game is glorifying this kind of violence is wrong to some people. And I can respect that.

However, I don't...really see the issue with it from my own perspective. I really want to see where this game goes in it's development. And I want to see how people/media handle it after it's released. I want to see more. Hell, I want to play it.
 
FHIZ said:
It's about context. Nathan Drake isn't blasting some old man's head away with a shotgun, then turning around and sticking a gun in a woman's mouth and blowing her away. Nathan Darke is a genocide machine, we all know that, and it's sort of fucked up when you think about it, but you have to go out of your way to actually put yourself in that mindset and think about it... That's not the case here. This game is specifically portraying a homicidal "I hate the world everyone needs to die" sociopath in line with Columbine or the Aurora shooters and rewarding it, wearing it proudly. That's why people think it goes too far.
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Yeah, people can't handle honesty. Everyone complained in GTA4 that the main character seemed like a reasonable dude in cutscenes, but then the gameplay was just murder after murder.

Hatred is what shooter games are when you stop lying to yourself
 
Pudge said:
That's not what science says. Crime rates are down all around because people are more pacified by their entertainment. The kids who would be out shooting each other are now shooting people in CoD. It's not 100%, and there will always be insane people that you can't help, but giving someone who is driven to do something terrible a virtual outlet to do that thing instead of inflicting it on the real world is a good thing.
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Please link me to this science. As for entertainment, I believe it means not extreme violence. I may be wrong though, so I am open to you giving me scientific studies that do not only go against the idea that violent entertainment increases violent tendencies, but actually says it lowers them.
I say this moreso because I wouldn't have to argue that video games don't lead to violence but are closer to neutral while you're offering a very different stance.
 
It's pretty messed up, but didn't a lot of people react to early slasher movies in the same way. From Psycho to Halloween to Friday the 13th to Saw. Why should video games restrain themselves from using the entire canvas of interactive features? It may creep me out and make me feel sick, but isn't art supposed to make you feel something. Games are just about making you happy and making you feel "fun."

Games like this deserve to exist. I may think they're weird and sadistic. They may make me feel bad if I ever played it, but why shouldn't games exist that make me feel bad or disgusted/terrified?
 
I respect their right to make this kind of game.

I would respect them more if there was a bigger, overarching point of reflection to this kind of insane violence (and maybe they're is but it's not mentioned in the PR), but I suspect this is simply their way to get some extra, guaranteed attention.
 
This is not the best game to promote peace with, but man does it look awesome.
Not for everyone AT ALL but if they polish it good, I could see me playing it.
 
Bloodrage said:
Was Uncharted funded by ISIS? I killed over 1,000 human beings in my last playthrough of Uncharted 2 but I guess Hatred is worse because it has no color and the guy looks like he listens to black metal and wears a trench coat?
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How many innocent civilians did you kill in Uncharted 2? Because i remember fighting pirates, war criminals and blue monster people.

I guess i must have missed the chapter in the game where Nathan Drake's main motivation was to kill ordinary people because he was pissed at the world.
 
Pudge said:
That's not what science says. Crime rates are down all around because people are more pacified by their entertainment. The kids who would be out shooting each other are now shooting people in CoD. It's not 100%, and there will always be insane people that you can't help, but giving someone who is driven to do something terrible a virtual outlet to do that thing instead of inflicting it on the real world is a good thing.
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So giving a pedophile a virtual outlet will not in turn actually make him/her to go out there and commit a crime? I guess child porn is not good enough then, someone should make a game based of pedophiles, going around snatching little boys and girls, maybe that'll help...According to science
 
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