Oh, the industry is going to have a rough one with this game.
It's going to be interesting.
Hatred - Reveal & Gameplay Trailer
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Oh, the industry is going to have a rough one with this game.
It's going to be interesting.
Sure, I wouldn't eat there. I don't buy beer from Polish brewery run by an anti-gay activist. This doesn't affect the taste of the beer - I'd still describe it as at least decent and a very good alternative to the mass-produced ones you can get in every store. I just vote against his agenda with my wallet. I don't think I have any other right to influence his ability to brew. Having any other ability would likely lead to abuse and that's a double-edged sword I'm not willing to fall on.
Messofanego
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Master level trolling, Bloodrage.
This segment is all that needs to be referenced regarding that observation:
"... First guy looks asian, is a cop. Second guy is a black cop. 3rd guy looks black. Afterwards, three women (one asian and one black). Then, black guy. Male (white?) cop. Female cop. Last person seems like a minority. 3/10 are white, by my guess. "
There's enough to hate about the game without needing to paint it as racist or sexist with so little information about it.
FF Seraphim
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But thats mass murdering other mass murderers! Plus you have to admit the Hero in that is witty when he kills!
This just seems like a brooding man who never grew up.
Well this is some fucked up shit. You got that right. It moves to the impersonal like a psychopath. The focus seems to be that you get off on killing.
-MD-
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That's most games.
Relaxed Muscle
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The protagonists motivation dosn't seem political based or racial, "I just fucking hate this world". Then he kills a lot of people in that trailer, in which he kills a few in closeups and those are the ones people using to count it...
Talk about rushed judgement. One thing is people reacting to the violence, in which I can understand. Starting to look for some racist/facist ulterior motif in the game seems oportunists to say at least in this moment.
FF Seraphim
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Dude, its Drake there is only one time I remember in all three games where someone calls him out for mowing down everyone in his path. I am not sure how NG could have made the game without some shooting elements. Maybe UC4 can have more platform and puzzles less staying inside a burning building as crazy people try to kill you.
Would you mind explain what you mean by that? Just curious how you made the connection between sexy witch and murder propaganda tool.
I think it's an interesting discussion to go into; when do games go over the line?
When I play games, I often override - if not always - my own morals and ethics (the one I live by in real life), and shoot everything that moves, and I'm having a great time with it - for me it's nothing more than pixels that bleeds red pixels. We have all tried to go crazy on civilians in games like GTA, Carmageddon, etc. The difference though, is that none of those games actually encourages us to go crazy on the civilians, but we (and the developers) all know that it's something we do. "Hatred", by contrast, is completely open about its intentions, and suddenly we get offended. We are killing innocent all the time in games, but we obviously don't like to admit it or what? Is it really taboo?
When I saw the trailer for "Hatred", I was also incredibly offended. It's actually not the shooting of civilians that I'm offended by - it's the game's serious tone about the whole thing. It almost feels like that the developers actually takes this stuff seriously - like they really mean it. It's gallows humor with a little too much edge for my taste. The Postal games had kinda the same premise, but worked precisely because the humor was more emphasized, which made those games seem lighter.
It will be interesting to see how "Hatred" comes along. I do hope somewhere that there is a deeper meaning to the game, or that it actually has a message to convey. Anyways, crazy game.
When I play games, I often override - if not always - my own morals and ethics (the one I live by in real life), and shoot everything that moves, and I'm having a great time with it - for me it's nothing more than pixels that bleeds red pixels. We have all tried to go crazy on civilians in games like GTA, Carmageddon, etc. The difference though, is that none of those games actually encourages us to go crazy on the civilians, but we (and the developers) all know that it's something we do. "Hatred", by contrast, is completely open about its intentions, and suddenly we get offended. We are killing innocent all the time in games, but we obviously don't like to admit it or what? Is it really taboo?
When I saw the trailer for "Hatred", I was also incredibly offended. It's actually not the shooting of civilians that I'm offended by - it's the game's serious tone about the whole thing. It almost feels like that the developers actually takes this stuff seriously - like they really mean it. It's gallows humor with a little too much edge for my taste. The Postal games had kinda the same premise, but worked precisely because the humor was more emphasized, which made those games seem lighter.
It will be interesting to see how "Hatred" comes along. I do hope somewhere that there is a deeper meaning to the game, or that it actually has a message to convey. Anyways, crazy game.
Ha ha. Sorry. Should had been clearer, but I moved on to talking about this game.
FF Seraphim
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Snap! My bad, yeah this game seems to point out the villain (who is the player) is a psychopath.
God save us when it gets released.
Other than Australia and Germany, it will be banned there I bet.
DecoyOctopus
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It was never "debunked"! Some guy made a post in this thread that basically read like: "I read about it on Wikipedia..." and you guys were so quick to take it as fact. There were other posts in this thread that expressed their concerns about it but everyone who tries to defend this game linked to this one post. "I have no idea about the issue but some guy posted that he read about it on Wikipedia!"
Now for some enlightenment:
The Henery
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Dialogue in the intro is disturbingly reminiscent of the Eliot Rodger 'day of retribution' speech.
Sentenza
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It's pretty much 1:1 the same premise of the Postal franchise, just without the humor.
EDIT: Damn, 32 pages for this game?
EDIT2: Aaand apparently after reading few more pages I was beaten dozens of times already.
So essentially the kind of person I dislike the most.
"videogame equivalent of a snuff"? I know most "snuff" movies are fakes, but still, i wouldn't compare this to them, especially if you're referring to the real thing, where real people get hurt/killed.
As trash as this game seems to be.
That Wont Fit In There
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I'll be trying it out but damn. Crazy brutal.
Marky Mark
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When is this coming to the Wii?
Too far for me but maybe I'm getting too old.
Too far for me but maybe I'm getting too old.
Mobius and pet octopus
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" something that could give the player a pure, gaming pleasure."
Almost sounds like they are saying you can't have a pure, gaming pleasure experience without mass murder...
Almost sounds like they are saying you can't have a pure, gaming pleasure experience without mass murder...
Moff
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that sucks, I'm all for eradicating humanity in the name of satan or whatever, but if the victims are mostly black, gay, muslims or another minority, I sure as hell won't play it.
Garuda1One
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When squidward finally got himself an ak-47..
Now that I think I would play. I need to get a team together for a Bikini Bottom mod.
How much is your soul worth?
rottingcore
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http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertc...tions-raised-by-mass-murder-simulator-hatred/
http://www.aol.com/article/2014/10/...oes-of-a-mass-killer-active-shooter/20979480/
http://www.destructoid.com/this-game-about-mass-murder-of-innocents-is-not-okay-282656.phtml
http://badassdigest.com/2014/10/16/behold-hatred-the-worst-game/
http://www.aol.com/article/2014/10/...oes-of-a-mass-killer-active-shooter/20979480/
http://www.destructoid.com/this-game-about-mass-murder-of-innocents-is-not-okay-282656.phtml
http://badassdigest.com/2014/10/16/behold-hatred-the-worst-game/
I think both show how immature the games industry can be, and how much it is about catering to a certain crowd.
About three fitty.
Finale Fireworker
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Excuse me if this has been posted already:
http://badassdigest.com/2014/10/16/behold-hatred-the-worst-game/
Badass Digest is an important film site, if nobody knows. They write for an elevated audience. For some reason gamers don't often overlap with movie-lovers even though there is a huge overlap of movie-lovers who are also into games. Somewhat paradoxical.
Anyway, while their website has covered games before and does so somewhat regularly, this is a departure from their normal content.
Badass Digest also has one of the most involved and successful comment sections of any fan site, so there should be some interesting conversations down there as well.
(EDIT: It's worth noting however that I personally don't read any of their game stuff. Or only on rare occasions when important things are being discussed site-wide. But Andrew Todd doesn't think The Last of Us is anything special so you can let that form your mental picture of his game criticism. That said though, I don't disagree with this article.)
http://badassdigest.com/2014/10/16/behold-hatred-the-worst-game/
Badass Digest is an important film site, if nobody knows. They write for an elevated audience. For some reason gamers don't often overlap with movie-lovers even though there is a huge overlap of movie-lovers who are also into games. Somewhat paradoxical.
Anyway, while their website has covered games before and does so somewhat regularly, this is a departure from their normal content.
Badass Digest also has one of the most involved and successful comment sections of any fan site, so there should be some interesting conversations down there as well.
(EDIT: It's worth noting however that I personally don't read any of their game stuff. Or only on rare occasions when important things are being discussed site-wide. But Andrew Todd doesn't think The Last of Us is anything special so you can let that form your mental picture of his game criticism. That said though, I don't disagree with this article.)
MrCunningham
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No.... I was referring to the exploitation films of the grind house/ low budget variety.. not actual real footage of people getting maimed and killed. We both clearly have a different definition of what a Snuff film is here.
The youtube trailer nearly has 350,000 views in under two days. This is the type of exposure that indie developers dream of.
Handy Fake
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Not at all, I'm a Leftie. I just tend to err on the side of caution and use the term "ignorant" instead of "racist". It's a term that does no side any favours.
I admit to going off on that rant just because by being careful what I was typing it was making me come across as sympathetic to Right-wing views. I am not.
Mobius and pet octopus
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So... is hatred any worse than going on a killing spree or rampage in gta? I
Forbes calls it a mass murder SIMULATOR
Destructoid calls it a LITERAL murder SIMULATOR
I think we're going to see lots of hyperbole about this game.
People defend violence in video games all the time. So I wonder how some of those people will act in the face of a game that does it a little different. From what I can tell, it doesn't even do it THAT much different.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertc...tions-raised-by-mass-murder-simulator-hatred/
http://www.aol.com/article/2014/10/...oes-of-a-mass-killer-active-shooter/20979480/
http://www.destructoid.com/this-game-about-mass-murder-of-innocents-is-not-okay-282656.phtml
http://badassdigest.com/2014/10/16/behold-hatred-the-worst-game/
Forbes calls it a mass murder SIMULATOR
Destructoid calls it a LITERAL murder SIMULATOR
I think we're going to see lots of hyperbole about this game.
People defend violence in video games all the time. So I wonder how some of those people will act in the face of a game that does it a little different. From what I can tell, it doesn't even do it THAT much different.
Fuck me, what? I don't have sound at the minute but I doubt any audio would make that game justifiable. Is there an actual underlying theme or interesting story that gives this some sort of context outside of "Herp derp, wouldn't it be cool to kill innocent people endlessly bros"?
I'm sure it'll get a lot of attention from the controversy I guess. I really don't understand the posts desperately wanting to play it though.. like.. really?
I'm sure it'll get a lot of attention from the controversy I guess. I really don't understand the posts desperately wanting to play it though.. like.. really?
You can kill white suburbians in this game, that's much worse than anything else
Looks like he was pulled directly out of CrimeCraft.
Then do so. You act like you can't read both threads and have to have someone merge the two in order to further your argument.
DecoyOctopus
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Handy Fake
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Ugh. The term "Politically Correct" rears its ugly head again. Used exclusively by people who wish to defend their right to behave like an arsehole to others.
aygomyownroad
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I love the art direction of this game and the graphics...
The rest I'll pass on this. I understand collateral damage on gta etc but this seems over the line, I understand it's just a game but the premise is very poor taste
The rest I'll pass on this. I understand collateral damage on gta etc but this seems over the line, I understand it's just a game but the premise is very poor taste
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