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Having a good resume with no job experience?

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Like everyone of you, I need money and I feel like getting my ass off my computer chair and go get some cheddars in my wallet. You already saw that I got no experience job so what can I, ever with that hurting fact, having a good resume?
 

Jdw40223

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Good resume defintely speaks volumes.... most peeps even with experience think their shitty 3 page letter is good enough. blah.

Have a great one page resume and it'll open doors, you just have to do the talking. Practice yer interview skillz.
 

Vormund

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Depends on the job you're going for really. I found a job quite easily, and my resume was shit. (like 1 sheet of paper :D) Other candidates there had bloody folders and didn't get a job.

It helps that i'm such an outgoing vibrant person. :D
 

Nerevar

they call me "Man Gravy".
Vormund said:
Depends on the job you're going for really. I found a job quite easily, and my resume was shit. (like 1 sheet of paper :D) Other candidates there had bloody folders and didn't get a job.

what? The fact that they had "folders" would've seriously hurt them. Even very experienced person (and I'm talking people in their 30's+ who've had multiple jobs) shouldn't go over 2 pages on their resume. Young people should never go over 1. Succintness is very important.
 

Vormund

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Nerevar said:
what? The fact that they had "folders" would've seriously hurt them. Even very experienced person (and I'm talking people in their 30's+ who've had multiple jobs) shouldn't go over 2 pages on their resume. Young people should never go over 1. Succintness is very important.

Yes, well that was all their big mistake. I did ask them and none of them had a job before. (school leavers) Fucked if I know what those things were full of.

Anyway my point was for the original poster to not stress too much about having a large resume.
 
Well, that mean little resume and good talk do the job. Okay, but what to put in that one page resume and how to initiate in a great way a conversation with the manager/employer to make a good first impression? You know, not "Hello! Hum..I want to work here *put out the paper and give it to him/her* Okay then bye"
 

Gorey

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I am an operations manager for a small marketplace. I do all the hiring/firing, among other things. Yes, I hire janitors, too.

I've hired my share of younger folks with short resumes, and the key thing is to sell yourself. If I can see that you're young, I don't expect a huge resume in the first place. What I want to 'hear' is a sense of ownership, commitment, and punctuality. It sounds cheesy, but that's the truth.

Edit: I can really only speak for myself, but the kinds of things I like to hear are:
"What kind of scheduling flexibility would help you?" (shows sense of commitment)
"I understand you do _______ here, but can you tell me more about it?" (shows interest)
"What do you consider the most important elements someone can bring to this job?" (shows potential ownership-type attitude)

Remember to smile and show a sense of humor. Don't be too early to your interview, that's annoying.... And for the love of god, don't be late. Five to ten minutes early is perfect. Wear something nice, but don't overdo it. Get as many interviews as you can- practice is good.
 
What Gorey said. I hire contractors (and do FTE interviews) for a big software firm, and I'm willing to overlook resume shortcomings (college dropout, little to no industry experience) for low-level positions *if* you have the combination of raw technical knowledge mixed with a strong work ethic. Basically, I want to trust that you'll learn the shit needed to do your job, ASAP.
 

Boogie

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Gorey said:
I am an operations manager for a small marketplace. I do all the hiring/firing, among other things. Yes, I hire janitors, too.

I've hired my share of younger folks with short resumes, and the key thing is to sell yourself. If I can see that you're young, I don't expect a huge resume in the first place. What I want to 'hear' is a sense of ownership, commitment, and punctuality. It sounds cheesy, but that's the truth.

Edit: I can really only speak for myself, but the kinds of things I like to hear are:
"What kind of scheduling flexibility would help you?" (shows sense of commitment)
"I understand you do _______ here, but can you tell me more about it?" (shows interest)
"What do you consider the most important elements someone can bring to this job?" (shows potential ownership-type attitude)

Remember to smile and show a sense of humor. Don't be too early to your interview, that's annoying.... And for the love of god, don't be late. Five to ten minutes early is perfect. Wear something nice, but don't overdo it. Get as many interviews as you can- practice is good.

Yeah, I'm screwed come 2 years from now :p
 

Mama Smurf

My penis is still intact.
In an interview, don't slouch, but don't sit on your hands or tap your foot or anything. Just seem relaxed and confident, whether you feel that way or not. Look up facts about the company or the type of job before you go to it. Make sure to slip any company information in somehow, even if you just have to ask about it.

I once talked myself into a debt collectors job. In fact, that was my second jopb and I'd been unemployed for 9 months before it. I didn't really want to do the work, but I thought I'd give it a go and it was a lot of money. I was never, EVER going to make a good debt collector, but I just wanted some money coming in until they fired me or I left. I don't overly like confrontation, I'm certainly not an aggressive person, and I don't like making people's bad situations even worst (which is what you often have to do, most people in debt are just normal people struggling to get by). Hell, I don't even look like I could be a debt collector, I look like I'm 16.

So how did I get the job? By acting. I can't maintain it throughout the job, but for two half an hour interviews, I can come off as confident, aggressive (don't be aggressive going after most jobs, this was just specific to something like debt collecting), and direct. I spoke firmly and assuredly, I had answers prepared, I'd researched the job and found out what employers wanted in a debt collector, I looked the guy in the eye the entire time I spoke to him, I shook his hand firmly (and held out my hand first)...and so on. Also, he was reluctant to give me the job, given my lack of age and experience, but he said he was tempted, so I seized that opportunity to tell him I understood his concerns, but I KNEW I could do it.

Like I say, I got it. I got fired pretty quickly (I hated it so much i would have quit soon so i didn't care), but that was ok. It was a ridiculous company, the number of clients I had to lie to because their file wasn't even in the filing cabinets anymore and we had no idea who we had to chase down...it was awful. Plus the two experienced debt collectors who were supposed to help me left two days after I got there (one was ill, the other quit), so I never had a hope.

Now I'm not saying you should go for jobs you know you can't do. But even going for jobs you think you could do, the same principles apply.
 

Gorey

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Boogie said:
Yeah, I'm screwed come 2 years from now :p

But Boogie, from what I gather, if you possess not only a girl, but a job at the same time, the entire universe as we know it will implode. I don't wanna die!
 
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