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HDR appreciation thread

ChoosableOne

ChoosableAll
Although my monitor supports HDR, I couldn’t bother turning it on and off every time, so I didn’t use it in many games. It strains my eyes during daily PC use, so I usually keep it off. I still don’t understand why they haven’t made it something that automatically turns on when games launch, or why it can’t be enabled during gameplay. Anyway… Playing dark sections in games like Dead Space Remake and Stalker 2 without HDR is nearly impossible for me. I’ve especially noticed how it impacts the gameplay in these titles. As for Tekken 8, it convinced me that HDR is an amazing technology. I also had good impressions of it before in Lies of P and Call of Duty. What are your thoughts on HDR? I think it should now be listed as a recommended feature in many games, just like SSDs.
 

Bojji

Member
HDR makes darks darker, lights lighter, and colors more vibrant. It's great!

This!

But you need good enough tv to see it. I had "HDR" 4k TCL and then Hisense with some local dimming - on both sdr looked better in some games...

Now on OLED, night and day difference. HDR is always better unless developers fuck up implementation (mostly can be fixed on pc).

So on OLED or higher end LCD - HDR is a win. On tvs/monitors than can't show it properly, don't bother.
 
This!

But you need good enough tv to see it. I had "HDR" 4k TCL and then Hisense with some local dimming - on both sdr looked better in some games...

Now on OLED, night and day difference. HDR is always better unless developers fuck up implementation (mostly can be fixed on pc).

So on OLED or higher end LCD - HDR is a win. On tvs/monitors than can't show it properly, don't bother.
I have a Samsung Odyssey G7 that fakes HDR. I never bothered with it after being unimpressed with the results.

Then I treated myself to an LG C3 OLED after a surprise windfall, and the HDR on it is ace.
 
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nemiroff

Gold Member
I don't get it.. What do you mean, "turn it on and off"? Mine (Asus QD-OLED) is always on in W11.
 
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Topher

Identifies as young
Why is it that when I have HDR on in Windows, I get this oversaturation of red in some embedded videos and such?

Example, with and without HDR...

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ChoosableOne

ChoosableAll
I don't get it.. What do you mean, "turn it on and off"? Mine (Asus QD-OLED) is always on in W11.
It tires my eyes after web browsing so I usually turn it off. I'm using light theme all the time though.
I have a Samsung Odyssey G7 that fakes HDR. I never bothered with it after being unimpressed with the results.

Then I treated myself to an LG C3 OLED after a surprise windfall, and the HDR on it is ace.
I have a medium quality LG gsync monitor and it's awesome even on that.
Why is it that when I have HDR on in Windows, I get this oversaturation of red in some embedded videos and such?

Example, with and without HDR...

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Did you try windows HDR calibration tool?
 

Bojji

Member
Why is it that when I have HDR on in Windows, I get this oversaturation of red in some embedded videos and such?

Example, with and without HDR...

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pvUGcRe.png

Something is fucked up.

Have you used Windows HDR calibration app? At the end you set color intensity, it should be left at default (0).
 

Topher

Identifies as young
It tires my eyes after web browsing so I usually turn it off. I'm using light theme all the time though.

I have a medium quality LG gsync monitor and it's awesome even on that.

Did you try windows HDR calibration tool?

Something is fucked up.

Have you used Windows HDR calibration app? At the end you set color intensity, it should be left at default (0).

Hey look! There is an HDR calibration app...

Matthew Broderick GIF


trying it now
 
I thought HDR was a con for years. Games looked worse to me. They were always washed out and the darks were raised if anything. Would default to SDR and then I bought an OLED. What a difference. Now I am disappointed if a game doesn't have HDR. I guess the marketing is a scam to an extent because you need an OLED to achieve that difference between the light and dark.
 

Gamezone

Gold Member
I think RTX HDR is Nvidia's alternative to Windows' Auto HDR(which makes non-hdr games hdr-like). If the game uses HDR, then use native HDR. I'm no expert though.
Native HDR can be hit or miss in my opinion. And it usually requires you to calibrate the HDR in the game options, which could have different methods.
 

Bojji

Member
Is it necessary to use native HDR if Auto HDR or RTX HDR is avaliable?

I think RTX HDR is Nvidia's alternative to Windows' Auto HDR(which makes non-hdr games hdr-like). If the game uses HDR, then use native HDR. I'm no expert though.

In theory native HDR should be the best, that's what developers intended and it has 0% performance cost.

Auto HDR can be anabled in some games with native HDR (when it's turned off). Like AC Valhalla, game has shit HDR - auto HDR looks better. It has almost zero performance cost, but in some games it lifts black level.

RTX HDR is better than auto HDR, it can work in most games. Con is that it can take like 20% of performance away.

Use native HDR when it's good. If not, then you have alternatives.
 
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King Dazzar

Member
I've loved HDR since around 2017 when I first got an OLED. So much so,as a long time PC gamer at the time. It actually drove me to get a console, where it wasn't a mess. Since then I invested in a 3k nit TV 3 years ago, just to have more impactful HDR. I generally avoid most games without it. Just a shame its not always implemented well.
 
Although my monitor supports HDR, I couldn’t bother turning it on and off every time, so I didn’t use it in many games. It strains my eyes during daily PC use, so I usually keep it off. I still don’t understand why they haven’t made it something that automatically turns on when games launch, or why it can’t be enabled during gameplay. Anyway… Playing dark sections in games like Dead Space Remake and Stalker 2 without HDR is nearly impossible for me. I’ve especially noticed how it impacts the gameplay in these titles. As for Tekken 8, it convinced me that HDR is an amazing technology. I also had good impressions of it before in Lies of P and Call of Duty. What are your thoughts on HDR? I think it should now be listed as a recommended feature in many games, just like SSDs.
If you use Playnite game launcher you can enable HDR for a specific game at launch, it will then disable HDR once the game is closed.
 

ChoosableOne

ChoosableAll
If you use Playnite game launcher you can enable HDR for a specific game at launch, it will then disable HDR once the game is closed.
Yeah I heard that, but I'm waiting for Valve's or Microsoft's solution. I can't get used to another launcher. Is it trustworthy? It's a relatively new app.
 

KyoZz

Tag, you're it.
I recently switched to a Samsung Odyssey G5 (32" Ultrawide) and while the HDR is far from being the best it still looks amazing in most games. HDR in Stalker 2 is just beautiful for example. I wanted to go the oled route but the burning effect scares me, so for now I'm sticking with non-oled panels. Hopefully this can be fixed somehow as I really want an oled display!
 
Yeah I heard that, but I'm waiting for Valve's or Microsoft's solution. I can't get used to another launcher. Is it trustworthy? It's a relatively new app.
I've been using it for years, it consolidates all launchers into one, so i can use it to launch Forza on xbox, GTA V on epic etc.

Give it a try.
 
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A tip for PC users on a TV. First turn on the TV, put it on the PC in input, and THEN turn on the PC. The PC will correctly identify the TV and applies the windows HDR app settings correctly. If you switch the input after turning on the PC, it won't. You can see this in advanced display settings in windows. At least, that's what I discovered on my setup.
LG G4 owner.
 
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manfestival

Member
Anyone have any recommendations for HDR use on Armored Core 6 for PC? The game just looks washed out and objectively worse than SDR to me. HDR is basically bloom and gray filter here.
 

SHA

Member
A game changer. Rt or hdr? I take HDR.
I like taking pics of my tv running hdr. Only way to show relatively how awesome it looks:

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Is it really better? I thought hdr washes all the vibrant sdr colors, tell me this is not true? Which TV is that and what you recommend for video games?
 
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Tomeru

Member
I bought the aw3423dwf. Great picture, but I feel like hdr isnt all that. Stalkers 2's hdr is hit and miss, overall not that impressive - and so are the rest. Maybe my settings are tge issue, but I dont have the mental capacity to bother with it 😩
 

ChoosableOne

ChoosableAll
I bought the aw3423dwf. Great picture, but I feel like hdr isnt all that. Stalkers 2's hdr is hit and miss, overall not that impressive - and so are the rest. Maybe my settings are tge issue, but I dont have the mental capacity to bother with it 😩
I can't play Stalker 2 without it. I can't see anything in the night.
 

rofif

Can’t Git Gud
Can tell from the pics u probably have contrast way up there? To much contrast is a detail killer.
nah of course not. I have the proper settings.
Contrast is untouched, game optimizer mode, warm50, all common LG recommended settings. I know my LG settings. I am religious about this and I like reference settings/proper settings. not adding contrast etc. All sharpening and other ai crap also disabled.
One thing that I do differently is I do play with dynamic tone mapping calibrated to 4000 nits and not hgig though.

but it's the iphone doing the difference. Maybe it has trouble capturing the whole dynamic range + hdr is genuinely great.

I've got some comparison of SDR (ps5 HDR screenshot converted to sdr when copying from ps5) vs game running in HDR on ps5.
That's why I am so in awe with forspoken graphics. The game is genuinely breathtaking with HDR. Of course the iphone camera difference is purely relative. nothing absolute about this. Just to convey a feeling.
Also, these are old pics but still the same tv. It's just not ps5 pro etc.
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Got some other cool HDR examples too:
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