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HDTV Owners: What would it take to make you upgrade your TV?

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With CES here and all this wonderful news about Crystal LED and OLED TVs... I can't help but sit here and wonder what it would really take for me to upgrade my set.

I've got 2 HDTVs in my house. Both were originally scoped to be the main TV in the house. The first one was my first HDTV. It did 1080p, had a couple HDMI ports...but was 40 inches. When we moved to our new house with a bigger family room, I needed a bigger one so I bought a newer HDTV that was 52 inches.

...that was the only reason I upgraded, though. Bigger room. Further viewing distance. Need bigger TV.

It seems like there are really only very specific reasons to upgrade your set, and I'm curious if anyone thinks any of these are especially compelling reasons:

Bigger TV
I'm willing to bet that there are people who bought early HDTVs that fit their budget, and this means that the TVs are probably smaller. People in the 32 to 40 inch crowd seem to be the ripest for an upgrade due to size...and even this may not be necessary depending on the space the TV is in. My older 40 inch TV was perfect for my smaller place back in the day, for instance, so I'd probably still be using it today if I still lived there.

This seems like you'd only really want to do it if you settled for a smaller TV up front, or moved into a bigger place later.

Resolution
A lot of the early sets had a max of 720p, and people are so used to being beaten over the head about 1080p that they may want to upgrade to get the added resolution. With 4K and 8K sets likely coming down the pipe, the resolution wars will push forward. I suspect people will not be largely motivated to upgrade based on these resolutions however, as broadcast TV would be crippled trying to support these resolutions, and physical media like Blu-Ray haven't exactly been a sweeping replacement of the old DVDs for a lot of people.

People with lower max resolutions may want to increase their resolution, but I suspect for a lot of people this isn't a strong motivating factor if they are satisfied with the physical size of their TV.

Plasma vs. LCD vs. Some Other Tech
People may have a desire to jump from LCD to Plasma or vice versa...and more recently people may be interested in LED vs. OLED vs. Crystal LED...but once again I submit that this is probably not of much concern to most people. The benefits of each tech are likely lost on the consumer, and at the end of the day they are more interested in price vs. size vs. resolution.

Smart TV Features
Having things like GoogleTV or DLNA or some other proprietary software package that allows you to do things like surf the web, check out Facebook, stream Netflix...more connected features. I could see these really striking a cord with people, but I don't think I've seen or heard of any manufacturer really hitting a homerun in this area that have caused customers to stand and take note. This seems like a value-add and not a decision making factor to me.

Misc Features

Contrast Ratio - This seems like one that people pay attention to, but I doubt is a make or break point for most people. I'm guessing most customers know that "more is better" and take leave it there.

Refresh Rate - Very few people really understand what increased refresh rates really means, and even when you do, there isn't a super strong case to be made for wanting to enter an arms race with refresh rates.

3D - This seems to have hit the market with a whimper. There doesn't seem to be any strong demand for 3D sets, although I don't think content providers are quite done pushing that content​






...what I'm really getting at is: I suspect that most consumers right now have no intention of ever upgrading their TV unless the size doesn't match their current need. Once they buy a set that is as big as they want, that would likely be the last set they buy until there is another fundamental shift in televisions as big as flatscreen or HD.
 

R2D4

Banned
I have a 46 inch Sony RPTV. I'm hoping it finally dies this year so I can get a 60 or 70 inch Panasonic Plasma. After 5 years 46 inch is really small. I want Plasma because it's finally come down in price. Not interested in OLED or whatever because it's probably going to be very expensive for the first couple years.
 

Nander

Member
For me (and this is probably not your typical techie GAF response) it would be down to nicer design. Especially these new TVs with a minimal bezel are so sexy (my god, that LG at CES with a 5mm bezel...).

Right now I have a 50" FullHD Samsung plasma that I'm very happy with. :)
 

Darklord

Banned
I've got a 55" 1080p tv. It'll be me just fine for a long time. I'll only buy another if it breaks or if there is basically a new generation of TV's(as in a significant leap) but only after they drop to a reasonable price.
 

mrklaw

MrArseFace
hmm. not much really. I have a 46" 1080p 3D set that *just* fits in the space it has. Unless we remodel the house, I can't physically fit anything larger.

And I'm skeptical of improvements of 4k/8k until we have source material that supports it. Maybe upscaling will be ok, but I'd need to see a demo. If its really like looking through a window then that might be tempting, but they said that about 1080p..

Smart features are cool, but I don't want those to be locked into a TV. I'd rather have a little box I can use that'll overlay smart stuff on my current TV.


I have upgraded many times in the last 10 years though, so if there is anything genuinely worth updating for I will bite. I just can't see it though. Maybe glasses-free really good 3D on a 4k set?
 

Barrett2

Member
My 46" Panasonic Plasma is pretty damn nice. It would have to be significantly bigger, better and cheaper.

In other words, about 4 years from now.
 

.GqueB.

Banned
Ive had my 720p, 32 inch sammy for about 5 years or so now and have zero desire to upgrade. I go to Best Buy and see all these new tv's. Doesnt seem worth the cash to upgrade. Not really seeing the added benefit since my current tv works just fine because Im a man of simple taste. I want things to just work. Im not gonna enjoy Friday Night Lights any better if I upgrade.

The only thing that MIGHT make me upgrade is a larger living room. My girlfriend has this huge living room with a 32 inch television in it. Its a bit difficult to game on there as I cant really see much.
 
My tv will have to die for me to replace it. It's a 10 year old Sony rear projection LCD that still looks "decent" enough I'm not going to spend $2k to replace it.
 
I have a 720p 42" Panasonic plasma. If I can get an much bigger (60"+) 1080p Panasonic plasma for under $1000, and I finish my basement, I'll upgrade. But until I finish the basement, there's really no reason to upgrade.
 

Divvy

Canadians burned my passport
I just bought a 43 inch plasma and I'm pretty happy with it. Not much else I need except maybe, better streaming services I guess.
 

dark10x

Digital Foundry pixel pusher
Large OLED panel.

I'm still using the second generation Pioneer Kuro 50". I would love a larger screen, but there simply isn't anything on the market today that I would feel comfortable replacing it with. The image quality is just too damn good and still one of the best on the market.

OLED is what it will take for me to upgrade. LCD simply isn't good enough still today and even the best Panasonic plasmas still have a few tiny issues left that prevent me from wanting to switch.
 

Levyne

Banned
Have a basic 1080 40 inch 120hz. It's good enough for now in just an apartment.

Likely in 4-5 years when I move out I will upgrade.
 

RDreamer

Member
For my wife and I it would take having the money in our bank account. That's pretty much it. We bought a 26" HDTV a while back when they were way more expensive with the eventual plan of upgrading it to something like 36-40" when they got cheaper. Then we were going to throw this one in the bedroom. They're as cheap as we'd like them to be, but our own money situation isn't good enough to upgrade.

We were also waiting because our old TV stand thing couldn't fit anything bigger than our 26" and we just got a new one for christmas from my parents, so now we can actually upgrade.
 

Corky

Nine out of ten orphans can't tell the difference.
maturity of tech, I won't buy OLED or Crystal led or w/e until the prices have settled and advancements within them have become saturated.
 

Suikoguy

I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
Going to be taking a look at both CLCD and OLED techs in the coming years. Will be staying with my 1080p Samsung LCD TV as long as it works until then.
 

Zeppu

Member
HDTV Owners: What would it take to make you upgrade your TV?

When the current one dies. Seriously, what would I even do with my current 60"?
 

C.Dark.DN

Banned
I see no reason to upgrade every year or two years.

Some might have buyers remorse about size or technology if they had to go cheap.

3 years might be when you start to consider things like smart TV's or 3D upgrade while your current TV is still doing well.

Mine is 5 years and on the verge of death and I probably wouldn't get a new one until 3 years after I buy a new one this year or more likely when it starts to die.
 

SimleuqiR

Member
My tv will have to die for me to replace it. It's a 10 year old Sony rear projection LCD that still looks "decent" enough I'm not going to spend $2k to replace it.

2K? You don't need to spend that much to get better technology.
I change my TV every 5 to 6 years, and I wait for for the current year models to go down in price.

I just bought a Panasonic Viera 1080p IPS LCD LED 42" incher (2011 model), under 500 dollars.
 

drizzle

Axel Hertz
My TV physically breaking. Back in 2009 I bought a 42 inch plasma that was perfect for my bedroom.

Since then I moved and the TV is both too small for the place it's in now (a 66 pol would be perfect, but i'd be glad with a 50something) and I'm an idiot and the lower right fourth of the TV doesn't have the anti-glare substance on the glass anymore.

YET, i'm not convinced I need to spend extraordinary amounts of money buying a new one: If I sit in the middle of the bed, instead of lay completely down, and turn off the lights, I get a perfect TV Vieweing experience.

Since I don't watch movies that much, and most my gaming is done on the PC (I do have a 360, but then again, doing what I said above fixes all the "problems" i have with my tv set), I really don't see the appeal of buying a new TV.

...unless mine breaks

Edit: Then again, I live in Brazil, where TV's cost three times as much as it costs to you US people.
 

Osiris

I permanently banned my 6 year old daughter from using the PS4 for mistakenly sending grief reports as it's too hard to watch or talk to her
No desire to upgrade in the foreseeable future (3-4 years)

Replaced my 37" 720p set with a 40" 1080p set for free last year, it has 4 HDMI sockets, DLNA features and has a slot to upgrade to wifi from the standard ethernet and I'll probably pop that upgrade in sometime over the next 12 months.
 
When my current 50 inch 720p Samsung plasma stops working, I'll get a new TV.

And by the looks of things, it might be happening. I keep seeing all these little green speckles/dots on the screen.
 

MisterNoisy

Member
OLED/CLED releasing and coming down to a reasonable price for a 47-55"+ panel. I'm quite happy with my current set (local-dimming LED/LCD), and will likely remain so for the foreseeable future.

I couldn't care less about 'smart' TVs (mine is really just a glorified monitor, so I don't even really need a tuner in the set), and 3D in the home is just slightly more useless than 3D in the theater to me.
 
I have a piece of junk now, so i'll be upgrading soon, but after that, I'm done until that thing dies. Tvs are too nice for their own good these days.

I really tire of the tech-movement of taking old tech A,B and C and putting it in one thing and calling it revolutionary. I have no interest in "smart tvs" whatsoever.
 

anddo0

Member
I've been going strong with my 46" Sony Bravia since 2006 (had a Wega before that)

I guess, when the prices of OLED and Crystal led become affordable ($2000-$2500). So, it'll be a while.
 
No interest in 3D and see no reason to upgrade. Broadcasts are all not really up to par with the new TV tech and my current set works perfectly fine with blu rays. None of the new advances in HDTV are must haves
 

Mest30

Banned
If I can get a glasses free 52 inch 3d tv for under 1000, I'd upgrade. Until then, I'm content with 46 and 42 in lcd tvs.
 

Ecrofirt

Member
Money and time are the only things really holding me back.

I've got around $2400 saved for a TV right now, and I know I can buy a kickass set with it. However, more money saved is never a bad thing.

Also, I don't really have a place for a bigger TV right now. I plan to finish my basement and move my current TV down there, which would open up space upstairs. However, we've got a cat down in the basement now, so that's not really able to happen.

And I don't have cable.
 

Vard

Member
I have a Pioneer Kuro that I'm really happy with. I won't be upgrading anytime soon, provided it keeps on working.
 

Zeppu

Member
On second thought, I'd probably upgrade the second someone offers a dedicated Angry Birds channel integrated into the TV. Oh and btw, it has to be free.
 

C.Dark.DN

Banned
My tv will have to die for me to replace it. It's a 10 year old Sony rear projection LCD that still looks "decent" enough I'm not going to spend $2k to replace it.
How many times have you had to replace the lamp?

My 720p 50 inch rear projection Sony needs a 2nd lamp replacement in 5 years. The first one was $149.95.

I bought it from bhphotovideo.com. Still the same price there but it looks like Amazon dropped it to 70$.

Anyways. I'm eyeballing a 1080p 2011 50" 3D Panasonic Plasma for 900$.
 

Bleepey

Member
I still have an SDTV, i stand by what i said when i say that SD content looks better on SDTVs and DVDs look better on SDTVs.**


*Might buy a HDTV cos they are so cheap and i can use them as monitors.
 
It would probably take my current five-year-old Panasonic LCD dying for me to upgrade to something nicer.

I'd love a Panny plasma, but getting a new TV is extremely low on the priority list.
 

industrian

will gently cradle you as time slowly ticks away.
I'm so behind on HDTV tech it's ridiculous.

If I get a bigger apartment/house with a bigger living room then I will jump to a bigger TV. Simple as that. Whilst I'm cool with OLED and advancements in image quality, the "Smart TV" concept is stupid to me. Thanks to convergence and DLNA I can access Facebook, Youtube, etc from pretty much every piece of electronics in my apartment bar my toaster. Why I'd need it natively on my TV in addition to those is beyond me.
 

n0n44m

Member
32" Samsung LE32A656 (2008) as a computer monitor and 40" Samsung LE40M86 (2006) as a TV here ...

what I'd like to see improved when I upgrade

1 -better black levels (OLED? local dimming?)
2 -better motion resolution / more hz (not interpolation but true 120hz input from PC)
3 -regular stuff like size/contrast/colors of course. And low input lag.

4K doesn't seem to make sense in *normal living room 40" TV situations*, so I'd be fine with 1080p for the next decade. I'm very interested in those Sony personal 3D viewers, but I have little hope for decent 3D from a TV.

I expect to buy triple 120hz computer monitors in the next year or two and only upgrade the 40" when affordable OLEDs are here or just get a projector

and yeah I agree with you that most people I talk too are absolutely fine with a cheap 40" 1080P (or even 720p as that is the max of our HDTV cable broadcasts) LCD TV and won't buy any of those new TVs until (one of) their old ones die
 
Got a 32 inch 720p Samsung television from early '08. Luckily most console games aren't even 1080p so it hasn't been that big of an issue, but I have been thinking about an upgrade.

Need an increase in size, resolution and image quality. Sadly, that last requirement is a bit outside of my budget right now. And trying to determine whether a set qualifies is really goddamn difficult when you consider how much difference there is in the random reviewer's definition of 'good image quality'.

Also it would be nice if the technology stabilized a little. As for SmartTVs, I have no desire for a feature like that, I'll just hook up my computer, thank you.
 

OnkelC

Hail to the Chef
Totally happy with mah Sammy:
IMG_0179_DxO_raw1024x768.jpg


will only upgrade if the bedroom plasma goes broke and this set will replace it. As of current tech, I wouldn't know which one to choose. Maybe a Toshiba 55ZL1G or -2G.
 

Zapages

Member
I just bought my HDTV last year... I don't plan on buying a new HDTV (Sharp LC400UN 40inch LED-LCD) until this HDTV dies. Hopefully it lasts us a good 8 to 10 years. :)
 
I have 2 LCD HDTV's, one from Sharp, one from Samsung. The SHarp is a 46", it's in my living room, and it's a great TV. It's a good fit for the room and it just works out great for what we need. I bought the Samsung TV a couple years ago, for my bedroom, and thought that 40" would work, but it really doesn't. I had a small 27" LCD TV which I actually always liked, it was my first HDTV from Panasonic that I got in 2005, and I really liked it, it served me well for five years and I sold it for a good chunk of cash that went to the new one.

BUt I basically bought that 40" TV for my room so that I could sit in bed and play videogames. As it was, I used to pull up a chair pretty close to the TV to play, and I wanted somethign that I didn't need another piece of furniture for.

In the end though, the 40" was still a bit too far to comfortably play. I could play somethign that doesn't require a lot of precision, like Skyrim or something similar, but for anything that you have to either aim or make precise decisions (like, say, passing in Madden), it was still too far. So, I still have a chair that I pull out into the middle of my room.

I can't justify buying another TV, but if money weren't much of an option, and if I had a place to move the 40" TV (or if I could sell it for a reasonable price), then I would swap the 40" TV for either a 46" or larger, and put it in my bedroom.

But in terms of tech, not a lot of it interests me. Better blacks would be cool and I wouldn't get a new TV that wasn't technically better, but I really care more about form factor than anything else. A nice thin TV with an attractive form factor, that is easy to move, doesn't take up a lot of space, and looks nice, is more important to me than one that has some latest and greatest refresh rate or something.
 

Anteater

Member
I usually upgrade when the current one breaks or unable to perform the tasks I want it to do.

Last time I upgraded my tv was last year, to a 42 inch 1080p plasma, because my 36" 480p/1080i CRT TV broke.

I might upgrade my bedroom TV in a few years, if I ever do it would be because of the resolution, as I'm using it as an external monitor for my imac as well, when I build a new computer, I would need a better display than a shitty 1360x768 one.
 

LosDaddie

Banned
61" 1080p Panasonic LCD here. I also had it professionally calibrated. :)

It would take my HDTV dying for me to replace it. Why? Because there's nowhere for my current HDTV to go.
 

J-Rod

Member
Significant strides in visual quality. Smart TV functions, 3D, and sleek form factor while nice won't do it for me.
 

Speevy

Banned
Probably a subscription to HDTV programming, which I don't currently have, and more than one machine that outputs in HD.
 
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