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[golem]

Im sorry to hear it hasnt gotten better Bebpo. I dont know about institutionalization but it sounds like that is one of the few things left that hasnt been tried.

 

[Abounder]

Institutionalization seems like the heavy decision to make. The combination of being suicidal, having chronic pain, and being seemingly uncooperative with current professionals and family/friends makes her sound unhireable even with top degree honors. Add her lifelong depression, trauma, suicide attempts, wanting a gun, wanting to leave a suicidal voicemail for her doctor, finding serial killers fascinating, and it foreshadows some dangerous scenarios. She is only 21 so she has time on her side to overcome challenges, and she needs to accept and let people help her in order to have a long and prosperous life. Godspeed.

 

[geomon]

I have had chronic back pain for 11 years now due to my weight. I have been suicidal before (a few years ago, not since) from severe depression which I've had since I was 15 years old.

My advice, and feel free to just ignore this if it doesn't make sense to you, treat her pain first. If you live in a state that has legal medical marijuana (or Colorado would be better) get her some. She's not responding to the low dosage pain meds and the doctors won't give her a higher dose (with good reason, she's suicidal) then that's the best course I can see.

You need to treat the physical pain first because I guarantee you, it's clouding her judgement on everything else. Think about it, when you're in constant unrelenting pain, and you've seemingly have tried everything, wanting to die seems like a good idea to the pain racked mind.

As for institutionalizing, that should be your last option. They'll sedate her, they won't treat her physical pain at all and she'll be in a foggy haze basically until they decide she's not a danger to herself any more and then release her and you're back to square one.

 

[Derwind]

I havent had an SO that was suicidle but I have had a close family member who was and still is from time to time.

I'm ashamed to say I don't know what to do. The one thing I know that is frustrating as hell is cheap comforting language like 'I understand' or 'Everything will be alright'.

At least when I did a little role play to really grasp how one might feel in that situation I found words like that often come across as shutting the persons dialogue off.

I'm not sayings its not appropriate to use language like that but how its used and how it comes acrosd has a big impact.

But truthfully I still dont understand how to help in that situation beyond leaving myself open and available to that person in need.

Maybe you should seek assistance yourself from professionals. What I mean is seek out people far more equipped to handling the task of healing someone who is suicidal. Maybe learn from them and apply it to your life.
(Although I guess this thread is a way of seeking that out)

 

[Zoc]

Why can't they force her to undergo proper treatment for her pain at a mental hospital? That clearly seems to be the underlying problem here. If they can't or won't treat her physical pain, what's the point?

Why doesn't she want to see a doctor? She's a medical student herself, it can't just be an irrational fear, right?