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[Darkmakaimura]

I heard this song today:

Googled it and saw a video. Not understanding how some kids want to end it because they’re not straight is crazy. Even at the end of the video it shows life moving on, but as a kid you don’t see it moving on.

You may think this way now, but what about family members? What about a niece or nephew who wants to end it now just because they got bullied or they’re gay? That’s why I am against unaliving yourself. It’s not going to make things better for the people around you and there’s no coming back from it. You just aren’t holding onto a better future for yourself or you can’t see one.

I feel really sorry for people who commit suicide because they're gay or transgender. I can sort of relate. My roommate is very fortunate because her family really loves her despite the fact that she transitioned. She really has a loving family and she's got a lot of loving friends.

I have a lot of sympathy for people who are in a position because they are LGBT and feel lost and confused and hated.

 

[near]

One of these days I’ll create a mental / health wellbeing OT. A thread that users can find support and advice, with links to recommended sources. These sorts of threads are becoming too frequent and we should probably create a space for long term discussion for topics like this. No one here will be able to provide professional help, but you seem like you want to lean on GAF. My PMs are open if you want to drop me a message bud.

 

[Atrus]

Suicide is usually pointless. Death is inevitable so rushing it eliminates the opportunity to find and embrace the enjoyable things along the way, whatever that may be.

Few people are in a scenario where they’re in the grip of certain types of life or death where exiting early is preferable.

There’s a lot to live for that doesn’t involve other people. Lots of sights, tastes, sounds, even the differences between moment to moment.

 

[Darkmakaimura]

One of these days I’ll create a mental / health wellbeing OT. A thread that users can find support and advice, with links to recommended sources. These sorts of threads are becoming too frequent and we should probably create a space for long term discussion for topics like this. No one here will be able to provide professional help, but you seem like you want to lean on GAF. My PMs are open if you want to drop me a message bud.

There actually used to be a mental health OT in the community thread I think it was. I'm not sure if it was shut down or whatever but this was prior to the exodus that happened around that time.

 

[Nydius]

One of these days I’ll create a mental / health wellbeing OT. A thread that users can find support and advice, with links to recommended sources. These sorts of threads are becoming too frequent and we should probably create a space for long term discussion for topics like this.

We've had them. We had multiple OT's that made it up to OT3 here in the Off-Topic forums and we currently have an open community mental health thread over in the Communities forums. The problem is they either devolve into shitshows that require moderation, turn into political discussions that also require moderation, or simply fall off from lack of use and get buried (as in the case of the community thread).

 

[Liljagare]

People just don't understand depression nor living in constant pain, and are selfish? We all deal with stuff.

Suicide is very selfish, something that is frowned upon in modern society, and shunned, but at the same time, we fail to recognize and provide proper care for suicidal people, because we live in a selfish profit driven society (most of us do on gaf).

If people could be a little more understanding, a little more helpfull, less driven for profits and "the life you are supposed to have", we'd see alot less suicides. Stop pressuring people to be a certain way, in the end, it really doesn't matter anyway. There is no proper way to live, your life is your own, and in your own care.

So, take care of yourself.

 

[near]

We've had them. We had multiple OT's that made it up to OT3 here in the Off-Topic forums and we currently have an open community mental health thread over in the Communities forums. The problem is they either devolve into shitshows that require moderation, turn into political discussions that also require moderation, or simply fall off from lack of use and get buried (as in the case of the community thread).

Maybe move it into off-topic where it’s more visible, add some thread rules and that’ll keep it steady. Or we just create an entirely new thread here. I think it would be useful, given the number of users that always offer positive and uplifting replies to these threads, and the recent frequency that these sort of threads seem to be appearing lately.

 

[Darkmakaimura]

the recent frequency that these sort of threads seem to be appearing lately.

Especially around the holidays it's the worst. That's probably why there's more frequence read about it.

 

[Nydius]

Maybe move it into off-topic where it’s more visible, add some thread rules and that’ll keep it steady. Or we just create an entirely new thread here. I think it would be useful, given the number of users that always offer positive and uplifting replies to these threads, and the recent frequency that these sort of threads seem to be appearing lately.

I don't disagree. Maybe my memory's failing me but I seem to recall that the first two OT's were stickied for a while. That's why the first one had something like 390 pages before OT2 was created. I don't know why OT3 got unstickied and closed years ago or why there was never an attempt to make the community one more visible.

 

[Darkmakaimura]

I don't disagree. Maybe my memory's failing me but I seem to recall that the first two OT's were stickied for a while. That's why the first one had something like 390 pages before OT2 was created. I don't know why OT3 got unstickied and closed years ago or why there was never an attempt to make the community one more visible.

Maybe it's the politics. It's best to avoid the politics. Like, I'm not depressed because of Donald Trump or anything like that. I could care less about the political atmosphere especially when things are more personal.

 

[rogr rogr]

Finding the right dose of medication to cure a persistent depression is difficult and takes time.

I know someone who suffered for 7 years with depression and anxiety. So many ups and downs, different professionals, different doses, waiting 15 days to check the symptoms, adjusting the dose, changing medication again...

It's not easy, but believe it. There is a sweet spot there that will make you fell good. Try to find a good doctor first, and then a good therapist.

 

[Darkmakaimura]

Finding the right dose of medication to cure a persistent depression is difficult and takes time.

I know someone who suffered for 7 years with depression and anxiety. So many ups and downs, different professionals, different doses, waiting 15 days to check the symptoms, adjusting the dose, changing medication again...

It's not easy, but believe it. There is a sweet spot there that will make you fell good. Try to find a good doctor first, and then a good therapist.

Roger Roger.

Yeah that's what I'm going kind of through right now although I do have a very good psychiatrist and she's very nice. My therapists are really up and down and I'm really waiting for a case manager and stuff like that. It's a fucking roller coaster.

 

[IAmRei]

There are lot of good things outside, games, movies, comic, books, toys, traveling to new places, culinary, and much more. You might need new things...

One more thing, nobody ever return from death, and say if there is nothing, or there is new game plus, so we still dont know what is next.

 

[bitbydeath]

I feel really sorry for people who commit suicide because they're gay or transgender. I can sort of relate. My roommate is very fortunate because her family really loves her despite the fact that she transitioned. She really has a loving family and she's got a lot of loving friends.

I have a lot of sympathy for people who are in a position because they are LGBT and feel lost and confused and hated.

Generally people don’t care, the hate is often just them projecting their own hate onto themselves and their mental illness makes them think what they think is what others think.

People operate in bubbles.

 

[nkarafo]

What i hate the most is when people say it's the "easy way out" or how people who kill themselves are "cowards".

Do these people ever realize how scary this shit is? I doubt a single person who claims this would have the balls to pull the trigger, down the pills, jump from a balcony, whatever, no matter how bad things would be for them. They would chicken out the moment this option was on the plate for them.

If suicide was the easy way out, there would be no suffering in the world. Only people with severe mental issues or too much courage are able to do this.

 

[Outlier]

Because it disrupts the flow of society.

When one person removes themselves from the equation, the others become unbalanced, resulting in delayed progress.

The reason we stigmatize suicide is ultimately due to our perception that the struggling individual can be set back on track.

 

[Outlier]

What i hate the most is when people say it's the "easy way out" or how people who kill themselves are "cowards".

Do these people ever realize how scary this shit is? I doubt a single person who claims this would have the balls to pull the trigger, down the pills, jump from a balcony, whatever, no matter how bad things would be for them. They would chicken out the moment this option was on the plate for them.

If suicide was the easy way out, there would be no suffering in the world. Only people with severe mental issues or too much courage are able to do this.

It's the righteous attitude.
Once the deed is done, what other sensible response can people have?

1.

Callous. Lack of care for our fellow kind is a dark path.

2.

How do you know? Wishful thinking, at best.

3.

Bruh, what?



So it only makes sense for people to respond with:

It's a self medicating response to an otherwise traumatizing situation.

 

[Hunter 99]

There are two things certain in life: death and taxes.

If you are dead you can't pay taxes.

You still pay taxes when your dead In the UK unfortunately.

 

[ThisIsMyDog]

If you want to kill yourself what would you care if it is stigmatized or not, what's the point of that, you gonna be dead.