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It seems to work ok for many people at a much smaller scale. Maybe if they stop poisoning the well with all the subsidies someone will figure it out.
It is amazing that the sun throws more energy on this planet everyday than we could ever use and we are mediocre at harvesting it.
 
First time seeing the real version of Helios One and there's way more solar panels compared to the game version. I expected everything to be bigger in real life but didn't expend this much lol. Could fit a whole town within that solar panel radius.
 
First time seeing the real version of Helios One and there's way more solar panels compared to the game version. I expected everything to be bigger in real life but didn't expend this much lol. Could fit a whole town within that solar panel radius.
Are they solar panels? It sounds like they are just mirrors and if they were solar panels this would still be cost effective.
 
If it leads to using more efficient renewables that's not too bad I guess. If it leads to more fossil that's really bad. Yes, climate change is real and things are going to go real bad.
 
I suppose that when it closes the whole installation will just be left "as is" in the desert. That whole solar farm needs to be disposed of by the owners. You can't leave thousands of mirrors in the desert. When they crack and shatter, billions and billions of glass fragments will get blown around the desert.
 
First time seeing the real version of Helios One and there's way more solar panels compared to the game version. I expected everything to be bigger in real life but didn't expend this much lol. Could fit a whole town within that solar panel radius.
Those aren't solar panels, they're mirrors that reflect the sunlight on to that tower in the middle.
 
Those aren't solar panels, they're mirrors that reflect the sunlight on to that tower in the middle.

Pretty interesting, apparently the problem is that solar panels can now generate energy more efficiently and more cheaply. Presumably they could just replace the mirrors with solar panels (at great cost, of course) and continue to generate electricity, but at a lower cost rate. It'd seem silly to abandon the site, to me at least.
 
Pretty interesting, apparently the problem is that solar panels can now generate energy more efficiently and more cheaply. Presumably they could just replace the mirrors with solar panels (at great cost, of course) and continue to generate electricity, but at a lower cost rate. It'd seem silly to abandon the site, to me at least.
Maybe? I honestly have no idea how the economics work out, just thought it was a cool concept back when they were developing this thing.
 
Helps if you read the article.
This is a solar thermal plant that uses reflected light to concentrate it to heat up water into steam (at the central tower).
This is a comparatively expensive technology compared to solar cells (photovoltaics) which absorb light and convert it to electricity directly.
So it seems renewables are taking off, but older and more expensive variants are being abandoned.
 
Unfortunately people are afraid of the nuke.

And it fucks them up. Germany fucked itself by shutting down nuclear power plants and now they are forced to make coal power plants lol. Fuck the climate! Hahahah.

Nuclear is the best, even standard fission one.
 
And it fucks them up. Germany fucked itself by shutting down nuclear power plants and now they are forced to make coal power plants lol. Fuck the climate! Hahahah.

Nuclear is the best, even standard fission one.
I agree I would rank you nuclear king.

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I've seen pictures of this over the years and never realized it isn't actual solar panels but mirrors
 
this is the one near the 15 around Primm right?I always admire the project. it looks amazing everytime I passed by it. it's a shame that it's ending.

also, I'm terrible at science, but is there no way to directly transform heat/sunlight/radiation into electricity? everything we have right now are basically one form or another of boiling water to turn a wheel to make electricity. can there be a more efficient way to go at the energy issue?
 
Helps if you read the article.
This is a solar thermal plant that uses reflected light to concentrate it to heat up water into steam (at the central tower).
This is a comparatively expensive technology compared to solar cells (photovoltaics) which absorb light and convert it to electricity directly.
So it seems renewables are taking off, but older and more expensive variants are being abandoned.
I wonder what costs so much? Just maintenance?
 
Waste of time for the most part. A lot of the solar companies went broke already by now.

Whatever BS or pr they did to get the company up and running and then spiral Down the drain is a work of art.

Made some money off it. I think I made $5000 off a stock way back after it got bought out. Then a year or two later the company who bought them out went broke I think. Lol
 
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Article says in the last sentence, that there now is an opportunity to change to photovoltaic. So I wouldn't be surprised if it got repurposed.

Chyna is big dicking green energy, y'all. They pump out so many solar modules that photovoltaics are now the cheapest form of energy generation. Wind turbines have also come a pretty long way. The newer ones are so efficient that you could replace 2 or 3 of the older ones (like a decade old) with a single new one.
can there be a more efficient way to go at the energy issue?
I think solar energy and wind turbines would fit that bill. I mean, wind turbine is like "big wheel turns, suddenly energy!" but you don't have a physical carrier for that energy, so you lose less in the transformation, I guess. But that is also the problem, getting energy from A to B.

And if you are a nuclear energy bro, it looks grim. And expensive. Especially expensive. You read the shit everywhere, how everyone is going to build more nuclear reactors, but in reality, nobody does. It takes a VERY long time and a lot of cash to get them up and running. Hinkley Point C was estimated to cost 16 billion british rupees, but they are now at over 40 billion. Construction began in 2017 and they won't start producing energy until 2030ish.

Using my smooth brain capacities, I'd say you probably could convert most of your energy production to renewables before you even get the first new nuclear energy plant up and running.
 
And after all the effort i put in to repair it in New Vegas!, what a waste time lol. on a serious note i don't think they should shut down a source of power imo.
 
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It takes a lot of money and time to built nuclear plants. Only so many countries do it. But US is one who can. And already has a ton around the country.

The only risk is that 0.01% chance it blows up like Chernobyl or the Japan event. And that thought of radiation poisoning making people into zombies carries longlasting stigma.

But for any expensive failure with whatever solar or wind power farm there is, it's out of mind because there is no kind of major zombified image that comes across. The only thing you might hear about is dead birds from windmills and thats it. And nobody cares about that.
 
blows up like Chernobyl or the Japan

I think both of those designs were flawed, which spelled doom. The things that have been learnt should mean that safety is a smaller concern.

What's quite interesting is the way that Chernobyl destroyed interest in making more nuclear plants (understandably) and led to constructions being abandoned. Had it not have happened, we might by now be living in a world where practically all power is nuclear generated.

 
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