Killjoy-NL
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That was my point, Karen.
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Helldivers 2 Account Linking Reversal
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Killjoy-NL
Member
Do you have an EA, Ubisoft and Epic Games account?
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Helldivers 2 is a democratic game after all. lol
Pallas
Member
Exercising your right to protest against something you object to = Whining?
Wasn’t the main issue with all of this was Sony requiring the login after the game had already been launched for months and was stated to originally be optional, and not mandatory?
Stuart360
Member
Yep. Dont use Epic except get the free games to cost them money and be a useless customer for them.
Its my choice to have whatever launchers i do and dont want though, thats the point.
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StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Crazy.
Who wants multiple logins to begin with? I'd like it if I didn't have to make multiple logins either. That's why I dont play UBI games since they dont interest me enough to make a profile when that pop up box happens. Just to play a beta download you need a profile. Nah, I'll pass.
Instead of corporate supporters saying it's stupid like any other company wanting an email address to just to play a game, it's amazing when the response is..... "Well, other companies do it"
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Last Hearth
Member
If you gave people the option to not create an account at launch, and later take that option away, that's changing the deal for most people.
Folks in other countries have been screwed by fake empathy by those who just wanted their way in other countries.
If people who were unaffected cared about that they would have fought by demanding Playstation be added to those countries so that they can have the same services available as everybody else, not just for Helldiver 2 but it would have benefited them elsewhere to. Notice it's the free account registration reversal they're happy about and they've completely forgot about the fact that the game was removed from sale in those countries.
It was always a requirement it was never stated to be optional. They did the right thing of allowing you to skip but still stating it's required so that people can play the game during the network strain.
MayauMiao
Member
What about those from UK having to deal with registering PSN that require to submit photo and IDs to Sony?
geary
Member
They forgot to say “for now”… The policy will still go forward, but first they need to iron it down. Prolly, once the launcher is ready or the linking has obvious advantages, the PSN account will come back, as optional or not.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
WTF? To make a PSN profile in UK, Sony wants as much info as being at the airport? lol
HerjansEagleFeeder
Gold Member
Laughing so hard at all the GAFers who've been sucking Sonys dick hard the past couple days somehow spinning this as not being a big deal and saying PC gamers are crybabies whos complains are not going to lead anywhere
Killjoy-NL
Member
First I've heard about that.
Is that a Sony thing, or UK-specific. Because if it's demanded by UK laws, it isn't Sony who's to blame.
But that is somewhat concerning and something I'd be against as well.
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StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Sony supporters sore PC gamers can avoid getting spammed endless Playstation promotions in their inbox.Laughing so hard at all the GAFers who've been sucking Sonys dick hard the past couple days somehow spinning this as not being a big deal and saying PC gamers are crybabies whos complains are not going to lead anywhere
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Yep. I tried looking up similar pages on Xbox's UK sites but couldn't find similar requirements there.
They will definitely do this for Ghost of Tsushima and have it ready day 1 for that.
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The deal hadn't changed though man. If I download Windows 8 for free from the installation site and from the very beginning it states "activation is required" can I say "you changed the deal" once my 30 days without activation is up?
The deal was always you need to register for a free PSN account to play this game. Stated at point of sale and stated on bootup. The fact that people played skipping doesn't mean the deal was changed. People just didn't want to create an account and that's fine but the deal did not change.
MayauMiao
Member
Last Hearth
Member
Yeah, because it was for FREE! When it's free of course they can take it away any time they want because you never paid for it, you aren't a customer yet and deserve nothing but whatever they choose to give you.
Did I miss where they gave away Helldivers 2 for free?
Photo or ID. It's just age verification in the UK from government guidelines. The photo or ID is deleted once your age is verified. It's like showing your face or your ID at a cash register when you're buying alcohol or cigarettes to prove you're an adult.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
And does MS ban someone if they try to run Win 8 because a mandatory login account isn't even available in that country?
Gen.Grievous
Member
They gave in to the tantrum throwers. I guess at the end of the day money still rules. Wonder what will happen with Ghost of Tsushima now.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
The next key thing is if they are going to reverse bans they dished out.
Made no sense to begin with. They sell a game on Steam where the PC gamer doesn't even have local PSN account access since his country isn't supported. So the gamer does their best picking a nearby country with PSN as close enough.
And Sony banned gamers for that. lol
Made no sense to begin with. They sell a game on Steam where the PC gamer doesn't even have local PSN account access since his country isn't supported. So the gamer does their best picking a nearby country with PSN as close enough.
And Sony banned gamers for that. lol
No but that's a different issue. I'm just saying a "deal" hasn't changed when something stated from the beginning happens at a later date.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Sure it changed.
They wanted all PC gamers to do a linked PSN account. But a ton of countries dont even have local PSN access. So how are they going to do it? By picking a nearby country. And Sony banned some gamers for doing that.
So how are gamers to blame?
MayauMiao
Member
And you expect them to trust the government with their private info?
UK government data breach for millions of children ruled unlawful
Privacy watchdog finds education department gave improper access to identifying information
www.ft.com
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Cyberpunkd
Member
Hoho for breakfast
Member
It's happened repeatedly and it's why you ignore the morons who defend garbage decisions like this or try to persuade you not to fight back. Xbox One walked back their bs, Fortnite Crossplay was another big one, Star Wars Battlefront, this now...I'm sure there's more.
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Raven117
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Money should be the only thing (or substantially all) that rules when it comes to a company’s behavior.
I'm surprised more people don't see it. They choose their words carefully. All that tweet really says is that the update planned for May 6th is cancelled. They didn't outright say that account linking is scrapped completely.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Money talks. And you PC gamers put up a good fight to make Sony bend. Even Gabe was on your side offering refunds and delisting the game in unsupported PSN countries.
So you can why Sony balked. No dou bt they had tons of refunds over the weekend which Sony had to eat. With this fiasco over, all those delisted countries will have H2 back up soon.
So you can why Sony balked. No dou bt they had tons of refunds over the weekend which Sony had to eat. With this fiasco over, all those delisted countries will have H2 back up soon.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I reckon they don't do this for HD2 at all, or just do an optional linking update with some costumes and shit.
But they'll have it ready day 1 for future games. Cause ultimately they still do want to have all those PC players count as PSN players.
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hinch7
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Idk.. Its their most successful GaaS title thus far and a massive hit on PC. Surely the best selling PS title on there, yet. It would be stupid if they didn't back down.
Not only would this affect HD2, but potentially the whole franchise and also hurt their relations with Arrowhead. Plus the customers trust.
Yep. Sony basically FAFO
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Cyberpunkd
Member
Yes, at the end of the day money is what matters, and Sony decided potential loss of revenue is more important than potential profit of harvesting user data.
Where did I blame anyone for anything?
People can't have a rational conversation it seems.
A technical issue doesn't mean some deal was changed. it just means those affected by this oversight would need to resolve it (by getting a refund or being advised to create an account in a different region).
I see you're really pushing this "people banned" thing hard in this thread. Was this some widespread issue outside of the single twitter post I've seen posted everywhere about that user in China? I'm sure they can contact Steam/PS/Arrowhead and explain and they would happily unban them. Still doesn't mean they 'changed the deal' after point of sale, that specifically, didn't happen.
stickkidsam
Member
It's a UK government GDPR mandate so, yes.Are you absolutely certain about that?
Unless you're alluding to some kind of government conspiracy theory then no, no idea.
laynelane
Member
Same. As soon as it started costing Sony money - refunds, the game being delisted in select countries - I expected them to walk it back.
Denton
Member
This is fantastic news - people have more power than they realize, at least on an open platform like PC and Steam reviews are huge part of it.
Still, it would be great if Sony finally made PSN officially available worldwide - it is ridiculous that it is still not supported officially in 2/3 of the world.
The only ones salty are dumb console fanboys - and they deserve to be salty. Forever.
Still, it would be great if Sony finally made PSN officially available worldwide - it is ridiculous that it is still not supported officially in 2/3 of the world.
The only ones salty are dumb console fanboys - and they deserve to be salty. Forever.
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Denton
Member
1) By making PSN officially supported worldwide
2) By offering people something of actual value in exchange for creating the account and linking it, while keeping it optional
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The government doesn't store the info anywhere though. Neither does the company. It's uploaded, some AI verifies age, then it's deleted. The company isn't even allowed to store the data because of GDPR. Not sure why you think it will end up stored somewhere by the government, outside of some tinfoil hat stuff that is.And you expect them to trust the government with their private info?
UK government data breach for millions of children ruled unlawful
Privacy watchdog finds education department gave improper access to identifying information